Paragon Research Compilation

Science :sciencegwen:

Hey y'all, been doing some research on how to earn ranks of paragons.

I have to go do my job now, so I'm gonna dump all the information obtained so far here so others can continue the science! I'll pop in occasionally and edit this post with any new discoveries or information!

As a starting point: I have currently found a cap of 76 for the boomerang paragon on easy or intermediate maps. Even though you can see that specific elements can contribute more, the rank never exceeds 76. I do not know how to exceed this limit in single player. I have heard that the xbow master sacrifice allows the dart paragon to reach rank 79, but have not personally confirmed that.

It has been discovered that additional t5 towers sacrificed in co-op let you reach up to rank 100, but there is still no known way to get past 76/79 in single player.

All of the below findings have been confirmed on easy and intermediate maps, hard difficulty, in the challenge editor. It may be that something changes on hard or expert or outside of challenge editors - that will be my next test after work but feel free to beat me to it!

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Things that definitely do increase the rank of your Paragon:

Sacrificing extra towers:

Sacrificing additional 4* towers - up to hard cap of 30 ranks.

Sacrificing 4* towers and a 2nd xbow master - up to 38 ranks.

To test: Does sacrificing 4* towers AND 3* towers allow you to exceed these caps.

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Having pops on your t5 towers:

Pops on your t5 towers can give up to rank 69 alone, with zero 'fodder' towers. (~10 million pops total was not enough, ~24 million was. Somewhere between the two.)

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Having pops on your other sacrifices:

I have not found the limit to this, but I can confirm that I was able to create a rank 76 paragon using 3 t5s with zero pops, so at minimum you can earn 46 ranks from the pops on your fodder towers.

My current theory is that it doesn't matter which towers your pops are on, the total pops are the only relevant number.

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Additional t5 towers:

Through MK or co-op mode, you can sacrifice more than one of each t5. This is the only known method of exceeding the limit of 76.

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Things that definitely don't increase the rank of your Paragon:

Buffs:

3 t5s placed with a bunch of fodder in an empty corner and sacrificed with zero buffs produced a rank 50. 3 t5s placed under a primary expertise and given permabrew and an ultraboost also produced a rank 50.

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Ideas:

Maybe the limit is higher on hard/expert maps? This comment suggests otherwise.

Maybe the limit goes up in later rounds? Perhaps you can get higher in rounds 200+ or something like that?

I'm kind of short on things to test - feel free to chuck any ideas you have into the comments for me or others to test!

Posted Jul 26, 2021, 9:02 AM UTC · edited

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Coins31415:sub:•

Cost of towers definitely contributes. 10 SMFCs do more than 10 Sharp Shooters, which both do more than 10 Juggernauts.

Having a mix of all three doesn't do anything either, as 9 SMFCs do more than 3 of each.

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Baumfall:etienne:•

Build order seems to matter. I did testing with the 4 Tier 5 Darts, Ujugg, PMFC and 2x XBM and I get Lvl 30 Paragon if i create Paragon on the first tower I placed and Lvl 19 if I do it on another.

Also if I place the 4 T5s and then 10x SMFCs (all crosspathed) I get Lvl 32. If I keep all towers uncrosspathed I get Lvl 34

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SiestaSimp•

Just repeatedly trying the 4 t5s alternates between level 20, 21 and 30 for me. I give up

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Baumfall:etienne:•

Yes it's super weird and I can't find a pattern

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Business-Adeptness32:ETn:•

A thing to note is regrow pops do count, so you can add your towers in a middle of a regrow, let them farm pops until they reach the unsure cap of 20 million, then get a level near 69

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