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frogic

Prop 22 experiences and the future of gig work.

Sorry for the wall of text, there is a tldr; at the bottom

Hello! So I've been working UberEATS in a metro area(Toronto) for about 4 years now with fairly consistent levels of pay/success. It's been a fairly interesting and eye opening experience as the job evolves and changes. Going from no tips and blind trips(which I'll admit had an air of excitement that is gone now even if I can work worse areas now that I have control) to knowing exactly where I'm going and having tips approaching half of the income.

From what I can tell the next big change is likely going to be how we're categorized by the government and how society in general will adapt to a different mode of work. Right now were kinda in a between place that no one seemed to care about when the overall amount of gig workers was relatively small. Now that gig work is both a large part of the work force and isn't going anywhere the legal framework seems to need to 'catch up'.

So that brings me to the reason for the post:. Those of you who work in California how has it gone since the passing of prop 22? Negative responses are fine but I'm curious to hear from people who feel they did see improvement in either pay or benefits. My current social circle is mostly people who are involved with labour groups who are massively ideologically opposed so I have no access to people who are happy with or at least saw some benefits and Im curious what they are. If you read this whole thing, thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

Tldr;. Prop22 happened. If you work in California and want to shill for Uber or brag about how cool you are this is for you.

Posted Aug 27, 2021, 2:24 PM UTC

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leeguy01•

Here is the problem, if you want to pay people to do gigs people are gonna have to pay $15 or more to get their Big Mac Meal delivered, and they won't.

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frogicOP•

I mostly agree with this but im more interested today in how new legal frameworks are working in practice more than the economical viability of Uber Eats as a whole. I also deliver by bike so I only actually need people to pay $10ish for that big Mac.

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BetLongjumping5132•

It really made no difference other than Uber took away some of the things it had put in place to frame an argument against AB5 such as fare multipliers and up front trip information (this is available in some markets outside of California). They knew that most drivers were hitting the guarantees based on the way they are calculated prior to prop 22. Some are getting the healthcare stiped but they are playing the usual games to make it almost not worth getting it so I'm guessing the payouts are minimal. Knowing them they offer less incentive money to those who hit the stipend regularly so it ends up being a wash cost-wise to them but I'm just speculating.

The only benefit I can see is that it retained the flexibility that may have gone away under AB5. Many drivers (and politicians) argue that wouldn't have happened with AB5 but it was certainly a possibility.

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frogicOP•

Thanks for the reply! So with the healthcare part you haven't been able to access it? The guaranteed minimum thing I always assumed was a fugazi since I've never met an honest person doing the job who made that little outside of a shift here or there.

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