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ele360

Inspection Passed! Should have been on Ziggs

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TLDR in the title

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I've been experimenting with Ziggs lately. I was hoping that RT would be a good opportunity for Ziggs as a champion to shine. In my experience so far it seems like Ziggs doesn't really promote his own interest well.

Ziggs wants to see land marks be destroyed both for his level as well as for his dps to nexus which feels like the most value. The 1-2 dps to blocker is ok but I don't really feel like Ziggs needed to be someone to swing with in the first place. This passive seems misplaced. I couldn't seem to figure him out.

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Until I saw this card

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Generated per round by Safety Inspector

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Once you have this card in hand every round Ziggs comes online and does exactly what you would expect. He destroys structures...It makes sense that Ziggs would be the destroyer of land marks yet currently he has no way to do that on his own. He relies on a support card to do the thing that he is supposed to shine at. One could argue that Safety Inspector is the true landmark counter over Ziggs which feels kinda off to me. It feels like Ziggs has the support cards effect, and the support card has Ziggs effect.

Rather than giving him +dps on attacking, I feel like a flipped Ziggs would do better with this effect or at least some version of it that allows him to destroy a landmark. Then let Ziggs shine as best in class as a landmark counter.

This is not a QQ nor rant thread, I honestly just want other peoples thoughts.

Posted Aug 28, 2021, 6:41 PM UTC

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Golden-Bamboo:Gangplank: Gangplank•

I like the thought and think it makes sense

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jesepy•

It’s would be great if ziggs generated something on summon or play, like inspection passed or the landmark that the one drop summons to give him more. There a lot of times where if you played all your landmark destruction you can get any benefits from the level up or to many landmarks and no way to make space for blockers.

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ZenjoyReddit•

You make a solid point.

I'm still of the strong opinion Ziggs was the result of them brainstorming ideas for Xerath, had two ideas for how it could work, gave one to Xerath, but liked the other and didn't want to waste it.

They also felt preasured to have a Yordle in Shurima, and this was what led to them making Ziggs (i.e.: fit a yordle to fit a playstyle for a specific region). Which I feel is where my main complaint comes from (they could have given this mechanic to Skarner or Rumble and I'd have been more open to it - i.e.: a cosmetic champion change would satisfy me).

Your point is a valid one, and honestly would have been a nice mechanic (it fits in almost with Veigar creating/upgrading his Darkness each turn). It would certainly make Ziggs feel more interesting as a mechanic.

SIDENOTE: Its almost weird that Xerath almost suffers the same mechanical issue of Ziggs (i.e.: Xerath does not innate destroy Landmarks, though his Champion Spell does allow him to do this). Thus his deck has to be built to his design. Not saying its bad. Just odd that, for all the grumbles at Ziggs (mine included) Xerath is accepted as he is... has me wondering if I'm missing something there...

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ele360OP•

Fair take on the xerath point. For me specifically it’s because I haven’t built a deck for him yet. Ive been running ziggs tali so my first hand experience is for that however I do agree that he suffers from kind of the same problem as ziggs but I feel like it’s a margin worse with ziggs because character wise you would expect that ziggs would have something that destroyed structures. I agree that the card itself isn’t bad but it’s oddly placed.

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abcdefghira•

I think the damage to blocker and nexus is a nod to his passive increasing his autoattack damage.

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libero0602:AurelionSol: Aurelion Sol•

Tbh I’ve been playing Ziggs with Akshan and another deck with Sivir, using Merciless Hunter and Ruin Runner. Ziggs is sort of an additional burn/dmg source that is not totally necessary to win a game. With Akshan he has a bigger role, with Sivir, well, she’s more or less the win con.

Tl;dr Shurima is broken and playing Ziggs w the broken cards make good decks lol

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HailfireSpawn•

Ziggs current ability is fine imo. It promotes aggressive play style of attacking with him which is VERY powerful when you have herald of the magus activated. It seems that riot wants xerath to be the back line champion and ziggs to be the aggressive attacker because even with herald of the magus you would never want to attack with xerath.

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ele360OP•

I do know that this is a viable method for playing ziggs and I don’t think ziggs is weak I just feel like the words on the card don’t match the face.

What does dealing an extra 2 to blockers have to do with ziggs or construct removal ?

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wardragon50•

Zigs is fine. Especially if you can use Magus to give him overwhelm.

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Sides, he still does damage when landmarks are destroyed, so you can keep him backlined, if you choose. But I find Taly/Ziggs with Magus giving them +2/+2 and overwhelm is basically a game ender

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ele360OP•

Fair enough, I wasn’t trying to say that ziggs is weak though.

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