Annnnd-- Ghosts don't even know! Petra mentions that Savathun has asked where Ghosts go when they 'dissolve' Glint's personal favorite theory is that Ghosts decomplie into a quantum superposition and become a 'living wavelength'. Which sounds about as good as any.
Though maybe the more interesting information here is Savathuns fascination with poor Glint...
Posted Sep 10, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC
They go to your prison pocket
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Honestly love how ghosts don't know how they recompile, or resurrect guardians. They just do it.
I like how much agency our ghosts have. I am very prepared for the Traveller to be revealed as not-benevolent, but for our Ghosts to stay right by our side unwavering as they have a far, far deeper connection to their Guardians than they do their absent, mostly mute creator.
the traveler (or at least Alpha Lupi) has already been characterised as benevolent. there would need to be a massive retcon for the traveler to all of a sudden be incompetent, amoral, etc.
Maybe she wants to find out so that her Hive guardian’s ghosts won’t float out in the open just waiting for a finisher? Would make GM nightfalls suck 10000% more if the ghosts disappear
I would love to see our ghosts dodging shots like the matrix, in a fun playful way, while waiting for the guardian to finish resurrecting.
It feels weird to see your ghost taking shots to the mouth from a bakers dozen of hive knights while he just sits there.
I know if I asked on the Discord, Mr Dynogames would have this source at hand - but iirc Ghosts being a specific wavelength of Light has been referenced before.
Since we Fourier Transformed Alpha Lupi to start this whole mess, could we perform a Reverse Fourier Transform on The Light?
What you're thinking of, I'm assuming, is the reference to the Mind that was specifically made to drain the Light from Saint 14, how it was specifically tuned to his specific wavelength.
Possibly, I could've sworn there was something closer than that though.
Anyway it is still interesting to me that we solved the Alpha Lupi ARG to unveil Destiny, and that you could easily see the Traveler creating Ghosts as it Fourier Transforming itself to produce it's individual components - Ghosts - from the whole orb.
It's a very interesting marrying of real maths/science and irl belief systems.
You could be thinking of how Drifter’s Ghost has a “red setting.” Effectively changing its “wavelength” of Light.
Possibly. I mean honestly I like the idea enough to keep it in mind despite seemingly only having one solid source and a couple more situational ones
What’s really scary about that is that sound is represented in waves.
So Glint just revealed to Savathun that she could sing to them, and possibly affect them, because sound uses waves, and wavelength is just a section of a wave.
Remember when Rasputin used classical music to disable the Vex on IO? Sound controls many things in the Destiny universe apparently. Savathun's silly song, Rasputin, Bungies amazing sound effects and soundtracks etc. Gets me thinking our Warmind knows more than we give him credit for and will be back soon better than ever to help out the Sol system.
I mean, let's not forget when Rasputin hacked Zavala's Ghost to talk through it during Season of the Worthy.
Shit he even hacked ours in the same Io adventure the other comment mentioned.
I kinda always liked the theory that the ghosts were originally drones Rasputin made to study the traveler and it just kinda captured and converted them all, which is how he has some control over them. He hacks our ghost twice
Makes 100% sense seeing how the transmat system is based off the Vex gate technology and it seems that is where our ghosts go. Into the transmat system and if it is all wavelength data stream, then yeah.
Makes sense, the gardener uses complexity as it's logic. Take something meant for darkness and repurpose it for light. May explain why Nokris calls Ghosts our worm.
But for that she would need something with sound, like a song- oh no.
Light functions like both particles and waves. It is very unique in physics to describe light.
all subatomic particles have that duality, not just light
But that's just a theory, a quantum field theory
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this is flat out wrong. the double slit experiment can and has been done with electrons and protons as well. it's also fair to assume that the same would occur for other particles, it's just not trivial to produce and measure pions or some shit like that
I don't think he necessarily meant soundwaves Im thinking more like light wavelengths you know the ones representative of the light spectrum. But who knows at this point in time, maybe with savathun acquiring the light she might be able to adapt her abilities into the light as well
light waves and sound waves can be converted to each other, it's been done before. besides, Glint didn't specify what kind of wave, so it's anyone's guess.
Uh oh, did you just crack the code?
If Ana brings back our boy Ras to have a singing competition with Savathun I will be stoked.
It's not over until the Russian Exo sings
So they become Force Ghosts kinda?
I believe they just teleport into our pockets.
^NoIWillNotClarify.
Was this just between glint and Petra ? God I hope we’re not just openly sharing information with Savathun.
Glint, Petra and Mara Sov over some radio transmission. A lot of the stuff being posted is from post mission voice transmissions.
Our Spider friend in the Tangled Shore sounds like he'll be in hot water soon.
Probably why he wants out of the Reef.
I hope he doesn't make it out. He's not a good character and literally had a bomb strapped to Glint.
Some people want him to go to the Last City. If he does, he'll have to tread carefully because of House Light. He can't step on Drifter's toes because Zavala probably sees Drifter as the limit of what he'll allow for shady activity. And Crow lives in the City. Spider will most likely go to a neutral area. But unless he signs up with Efrideet.. I'm not sure there's anyone who would house him.
If we look at trinity ghouls lore then they might just go in us like they just dissolve and become apart of our light or some shit? Ik we all have different light, like DNA from an io adventure so maybe they dematerialise into their guardians light
I just thought he transmatted into my “back pack” or back up to my ship
can't heal you if he's all the way back at the ship
Guess you could say they turn into a viral language.....hm.....
They go to The Jar.
Right time for my lore again!
This has actually been in the game but i cannot remember for the life of me where it is. Our weapons and armour and everything go in our vaults yes? How does everything fit in those little boxes you ask? I have the answer. We have our own little pocket dimension. When we load in to places we kind of just appear out of no where, when we pull our ghost out he loads in by slowly appearing and then slowly disappears, same with our sparrow, somewhere in the lore it’s explained that we have our own pocket dimension for things.
Because is she can get control of Glint, she can get to crow. I think she thinks if she can control crow she bring out Uldren. I don't know how Uldren would be of use to Savathûn but it would be interesting to see.
However, Savathûn was watching when we killed the barons so she should know that if she messes with our friends we will invoke our God killing powers and turn her into a gun.
Maybe she's trying to experiment on him to see if a Guardian can be reverted to their pre-risen self for when she gets the Light. Though this would only make sense if she gets the Light the same way we all did; with Ikora saying she stole it I'm not certain on the way she gets it.
Dude I just thought they cloaked reaaaaally good. This is the first I’ve heard of recompiling.
They say it a couple of times in the game
She pulled three arrows out of her quiver and whispered, "Pom, whatever happens, don't come out." Her Ghost answered her with a pulse of warmth in her left hand.
There’s been a couple of references to Ghosts being ‘inside us’ and hell how would they even talk to us when they’re not ‘out’? They have to be inside us somehow.
There's also a point during the exodus crash strike where the ghost says "it's scary outside your backpack". Im not saying your wrong but maybe the ghost can be wherever the guardian wants be it in the hand or in a backpack
My brain now is having combination thoughts of zoolander's "the files are inside the computer?" and the chestburster scene from Alien...oh no.
I know this won’t happen, but considering our story with our ghost being taken sometimes by darkness and everything else, it would really mess with us if I’m a cutscene or something related we get almost to lose our ghost. And I think this would be a more realistic way to affect us than, as I seen in a post before, resurrecting Cayde.
To the trash can, probably
I’m still mad that they changed Pulled Porks name to “Glint”
Our ghost says he lives in our backpack :D
I just took that as a metaphor for whatever form ghost keeps stuff in when not in use.
Transmat system so data subspace. Would make sense if it was a wavelength seeing how the transmat system is based off the Vex Gate technology that Clovis Bray was so interested in.
Vex gate and their data recompiling is based off wavelengths seeing how Rasputin disabled them with classic music.
I don't recall transmat being associated to Clovis' Vex research-- I believe it was actually a consequence of Engrammatic (Engramic?) Science!
But, I could be wrong, could you link me???
Can't, it was all old ghost things they said back in Venus in destiny 1.
Also engrams is also based off Vex technology. Clovis Bray based a shit ton of his work off the Vex. Hence why so many people theorized back then that he had a kidnapped vex mind underground somewhere on Mars.
Programmable matter, engrams, transmat, Exo Minds, they're all based off the Vex.
IT IS NOT A METAPHOR!
Maybe that's just what he calls the hammerspace where our inventory is.
welcome to the backpack dimension, we have zippers
Underrated ghost voice line; Nolan North crushes it
Dinklebot would have been better
honestly it sucks how much of a nightmare the story changes and stuff were for him, especially since he was a pivotal character so he basically had to say so many lines, nevermind the fact that he was apparently also treated pretty badly.
though i'm glad the recasting did happen, because i don't think ghost wouldn't have had as many lines as he does now if dinkle was still playing him, or they would've been forced to recast anyways because of dinkle's schedule, just like with Ikora
You mean having so many lines that he replaced our characters dialogue completely?
Bring back the Dinkle.
I’m of the opinion during the end of the Khovostov quest that Nolanbot should’ve glitched out for a moment and revert back to Dinklebot when he said:
‘And thanks….ya know….for being my Guardian.’
He was our Ghost too.
However odd it sounds I liked his slight monotone.
And all you guys downvoting, our current NolanDroid sounds almost exactly like GuiltySpark 2.0 which I hate because of being a prior Halo fan. At least I still have my Frontier Shell to hear the better and OG Ghost, Dinklebot.
And honestly I just thought it was that Game of Thrones conflicted with availability and so he had to part ways.
Will never get over the recasting. I love you, Nolan- with all my fucking heart, but the direction they took Ghost is just tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[oooooooooooo much in a direction that I fundamentally disagree with. They went too much in the high-pitched and thinks-he's-funny direction.
I miss my Centuries-Old, Battle Weary, quiet Dinklebot.
I agree. Dinklebot was just fitting with the atmosphere of Destiny. And like my other comment I put says, Nolan just made Ghost sound like GuiltySpark 2.0. If you've played Halo it may click as to why I would hate NolanDroid's voice
Nolan Ghost is too damn cheery all the time.
I do agree that he's just a little too bubbly 90% of the time.
Prison backpack
But... we have no backpack.
...Is this some kind of prison wallet situation then
I've never seen a guardian poop. So maybe it's because Ghost lives in there.
Icebreaker noises
I kinda ignore a lot of the stuff said from Red War stuff. A lot of it is for the sake of “humor”
That line was from Destiny 1.
Yes. It was one of the original lines in the SABER strike. Ghost would say something about him being jealous of Rasputin's bunker while he lived in our backpack
Ah, been farming nightfalls, so I keep hearing it from the Exodus Crash Strike. Ghost about preferring to be in our backpacks.
The line is said again in the Exodus Crash strike. It's after the part where you stand on the plate and kill the servitors. He says something like "I'm never leaving your backpack again." or something.
"It's scary outside your backpack"
Yup it was, but now I think about it it seems very similar to something in D2… though I don’t think it ever happened
There is a strike where ghost talks about living in our backpack in destiny 2