Experience renewing my passport

tl/dr: if you're renewing your passport, book a slot on the appointment website, print appointment letter and turn up directly at the Immigration office with RM200. You'll have your passport ready in about an hour.

the longer version:

For work reasons, I had to renew my passport. I have renewed my passport several times before and I am somewhat familiar with the process. However, this was the first time I was renewing the passport during a global pandemic and I had read horror stories online and from friends/family about their experience with the Immigression department.

I decided to call up the office (on a Sunday morning) and they answered! The lady who answered recommended to walk in but said an appointment was necessary.

I tried to book a slot but the appointment website was just not working. The website was not user friendly; there were broken links on the site, and there was even a link to the survey form which is no longer in use.

Given the appointment website was not working, I went down the route of trying to renew the passport online. I even went to the trouble of getting my photo taken but the online renewal site just would not accept the photo.

Feeling dejected, I went back to the appointment website and decided to poke at Developer Tools to see what was happening behind the scenes.

I immediately realised why the website was not working. I had, in fact, not selected a slot (as they slot options takes a while to load and show up) but had clicked to the next page. This is a basic UX fail. The webmaster needs to make the appointment loading process more visually prominent (perhaps with a throbber) and disallow navigation to next page until a slot is chosen.

When I selected a slot, the appointment flow worked perfectly well.

I turned up the next day at 7am (30 mins before the appointment time at 730am as stipulated in the Immigration website), only to first wait outside the complex for 25 mins and then to wait 10mins outside the bulding. Once they started letting people in, as is the case in Malaysia, a few people started to cut queue. Sigh.

Once we were in the building, I had no idea where to go. There are no directions stated. Everybody else was crowding the poor policeman to get directions so I decided to avoid Policeman Cluster and go check out each entrance individually. I quickly found the passport office.

I was the very first person in the passport office. The helpful policeman at the door called for the counter lady to attend to me. She gave me a number and told me to wait. She then went back to chat with her friends.

5 mins later, she sat at her desk can called for the number. She was quite friendly and in 7 mins, the entire process had concluded. Note that, contrary to what was written in the appointment letter, she didn't ask for any reason or documents for the renewal other then NRIC.

Then it was wait time for another 10mins until they called me for payment. I don't know why I had to wait given there was absolutely nobody else in the office, and there were at least 6 counter staff "at work".

I paid and was told to wait for an hour to get my renewed passport. Instead, I went to run errands and returned 3 hours later.

When I returned, unlike the first time, nobody checked MySejahtera at any point. I self scanned the QR code and self checked my temperature. I then walked up to one of the counters. The lady at the counter was pretty friendly; she guided me in the use of the microchipped passport and gave me advice on keeping the passport safe.

Then I left.

In summary, the process is relatively efficient and the counter staff were friendly. However, the information available online is not presented in a conducive way and there are websites built in the 1990s which have better UX then the Immigration website. Finally, for heaven's sake, enforce MySejahtera checking, please! Government offices need to lead by example.

Posted Sep 20, 2021, 5:41 AM UTC · edited

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Darkslayer3021•

The first thing I found when I open the MYOnline Passport is "the connection is insecure" and I was like what.... Not really a tech guy but it seems that it used an outdated security configuration, meaning nobody update it.

And you reminds of the time I went to update my driving license online and ooh boy, was it fun. With no knowledge on how to do it, I just search for renew lesen online and the first thing I found is a third party site which will take a fee of RM205 for 3 years which is bullshit as it cost RM 90 to renew a driving license for 3 years.

The 2nd thing I found is a list on how to do it which is kinda helpful. The first site is MyEg, which is down when I went there. The second site is MySikap, which is good until the payment part. The payment part just keep closing when I want to pay. I am sure that Chrome didn't auto close pop up window as there is no notification for it and the pop up window do appear for a second or two. After some retry, I remember my mom experience when using a government site as a teacher.

The solution... just use Internet Explorer and voila, it works like a charm. I have a big laugh when it works and sad as they didn't optimize it to work on what browser most people use. I still have to pick up the license at the JPJ but the JPJ is really near to my house, so it isn't really a hassle.

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morphypaulOP•

The first thing I found when I open the MYOnline Passport is "the connection is insecure" and I was like what.... Not really a tech guy but it seems that it used an outdated security configuration, meaning nobody update it.

Yes, that is exactly right. NET::ERR_SSL_OBSOLETE_VERSION refers to usage of older versions of TLS protocol which are known to be weak.

I wonder if Malaysia has mandated government CyberSecurity standards for government departments to follow.

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CasporoTuak is life and life is Tuak•

Sounds like we need abled technologist and industry trained individuals running the science ministry.

But tech sector pays even more (some absurdly high) so that is the major turnoff for those switching to the government sector.

Though I don’t mind a Mandarin from MoSTI explaining to me what is doing well in the ministry and what needs to be improved.

Like your typical agile development, ada retrospective for you to reflect.

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unverified_email•

I also just renewed my passport.

  • Print out your appointment letter. They want a physical piece of paper. I know, its a stated point but I didn’t think they wouldn’t accept just looking at my phone.
  • They tell you it takes 1 hour, but where I was (Kelana Jaya) there was barely anyone, it took around 20 mins to pay and subsequently get my passport.
  • Please try to renew online first. They are getting everyone to use the online platform. If you find a problem with your online application, you’ll be directed to do it in person at the office. My officer told me its good because then they knew I have a problem with my cap jari records, so he updated them to make sure going forward I can renew online. In 1-2 years time, they are moving all applications online and keep in person renewals to a minimal. Use this chance to weed out any problems with your passport records.
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AhHuatTheMechanic•

Please try to renew online first. They are getting everyone to use the online platform. If you find a problem with your online application, you’ll be directed to do it in person at the office.

I would discourage people from doing this. I did this before and when I went to pick up they refused to issue it because they said my passport rosak (there was one scratch at the back cover). According to theM, only Putrajaya can renew this and takes 5 working days to approve your application.

I had to go to Putrajaya Immi and was told that it wasn’t rosak. But the other cawangan insisted it was. Anyway I had to cancel the previous application (since I renewed online), wait for the right officer to do it, then reapply. Total period it took me to renew this during pandemic : 1 year.

Theres no added benefit in applying online other than paying ahead. Even the picture that upload cannot be used, and they will insist to take a new one on the spot.

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artycatnip•

I somewhat sympathize, but a few of your details are just incorrect.

  • Renewal is RM200 and you are not allowed to pay with cash, so don't bring RM300

  • You can't click next without selecting a time slot so I don't know what you are on about.

Also I'm not sure why you expect to be allowed in before the appointment time, let alone the opening hour of the UTC (I assume you went to one).

You don't have a right to a passport, 10 minutes to check if you have outstanding police warrants or owe taxes etc seems more than reasonable. Obviously things could always be faster, but if you've renewed passports in the past do you not remember it used to be 2 full hours?

EDIT: I misread, it took you an hour to get your passport renewed which is a lot longer than the norm nowadays. I suspect it didn't actually take that long but you had already left.

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morphypaulOP•

a. Yes, you're right. It's RM 200 and not RM 300. Edited post to reflect this.

b. You're incorrect. You can click Next which clicking a slot. Try it out.

c. No, I don't expect to be allowed in before the alloted time. I understand your confusion though: The appointment letter clearly states to turn up 30 mins before the appointment time and any delays will lead to the Immigration department cancelling the appointment.

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artycatnip•

Your claim that the letter instructs you to show up 30 minutes earlier... is just plain false? You are given a 2 hour time slot, no mention of being early. The full instructions/terms are here: https://imgur.com/a/qQonH0j

Another nitpick, I don't think 7.30 am is a possible appointment time at any UTC but I could be mistaken.

EDIT: I tried the booking site again after writing the comment, you are right. You only need to select a date, not a time slot.

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katabana02Kuala Lumpur•

gone were the days where we need at least half days to renew passport eh? full day if machine conveniently rosak.

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helloszeeeeee13:CNY2: Happy CNY 2022•

Ooo, I renewed mine at UTC keramat. More or less the same experience, but staff were friendly and got my passport 45 mins later.

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MrsHumanCar•

Gonna save this post for later. Thanks guys!

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hunnycole•

Hi, where can I find the link to book an appointment to renew my passport? Going to the Immigration office tomorrow! Thanks

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Jolly-Bug-720•

Exactly how long should I wait after choosing the time, the slot is not showing up and the webpage just shows no records found.

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morphypaulOP•

It is pretty buggy and the UX is far from being intuitive or useful.

I had to wait up to 30s to get a response.

I think I switched browseers at some point, it helped. Afaik I switched to Edge.

I also switched the location around, and that seemed to help. The HQ had slots.

Best of luck!

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Jolly-Bug-720•

Thanks a lotgif

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Jolly-Bug-720•

Truly a lifesaver man, edge works like a charm

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