Is it just me or did the difficulty for dungeons and especially the first trial jump up a notch from ShB? maybe it is because it's new and nobody knows what to do, but i struggled more than in previous expansions with my parties. It is my first launch tho
Don't get me wrong, i love the jump
Posted Dec 5, 2021, 7:55 AM UTC
I've done the first 4 dungeons via trust, and they've felt significantly easier than the ShB dungeons (which I also did via trust the first time). However, some of that - possibly all - is due to the fact that I've learned how to read basic mechanics, and there doesn't seem to be many surprises.
The first trial I found harder than ShB trials, but I could have just been overwhelmed, I dunno.
The last 2 MSQ trials are kinda hard, it felt like extreme prog. But with gear it will trivialize.
Movement definitely felt tighter to me, having just done the first dungeon. I remember when I first did the first dungeon of Shadowbringers, and it had maybe a few things going on, but you had time to digest everything and it didn't feel quite so... Visually cluttered, and very tight.
A lot of the movement honestly felt tighter to me than a lot of the ShB extremes, in fact. Or maybe it was some visual overload, I do not know, but either way... I was not fond of it.
Yes, a lot of things is harder in EW. Personally I'm not a big fan of the usage of insta kill mechanics in normal modes / msq / side quests.
Things will be difficult when new. Unless you did ShB at launch, you likely got paired with folks who had a good hold on mechanics. We wiped a couple times on first trial mostly coz 7/8 were first timers and were learning. Still managed to do with only 2 wipes and all alive for final 10%.
..... our first pull we all got knocked off the platform.
I think they’ve gotten a little easier. Or tanks have just gotten a little beefier. Probably a mix of the two.
The first trial, whilst grand, was a little disappointing difficulty-wise. Very easy tells and very little outgoing damage. I was hoping for more considering, well, who it was. Felt very Night King from Game of Thrones. Excited for extreme, however.
Final boss is the only thing that has become harder outside tht the other 2 in each dungeon follows the shb timing mech wise
I die sometimes on bosses. But that is due to new mechanics I’ve not seen before. Like the ‘nail’ square thing on the second dungeon final boss. I didn’t know what it was and got hit by it. Then the stack and run thing happened and I died.
Once I learned how it worked I didn’t get hit by it.
Overall it isn’t too difficult which is good.
Not got to the trial yet.
Tower of Zot was more annoying than difficult
Probably because I was doing the dungeons with trust but I find them to be easier than the ShB ones lol.
Same here.
It also helps that I ran the dungeons in full Augmented Cryptlurker and relic weapon, so all ilvl 530 plus 535 weapon slots.
Being overgeared plus having the Trust NPCs execute mechanics flawlessly helped a ton, lol. Literally found the 81 and 83 dungeons easier than Holminster.
The Trust NPCs definitely helped me with mechanics because when you're playing alone it's easy to notice when all 3 of your party members suddenly make a beeline for a certain part of the arena. Like the magnet mechanics just make perfect sense watching others do it, plus it helped confirm how the nails work on the 83 boss, which definitely confused me at first.
Yeah, agree that trusts make it really easy to learn the mechanics on your first run.
As for the dungeons themselves, I still don't feel like they're harder than the previous ones. Each of them has like one unique mechanics that is repeated and slightly built-on over the fight, which will catch people offguard when they do it for the first time, but aren't that hard execution-wise when people understand what it does.
I’m playing new Summoner and have noticed that the DPS is currently out of control. That being said, yes, first dungeon was nothing compared to my first run of holminster.