Season 10 Go Battle Day dust bonus is a huge downgrade and isn’t worthwhile at all

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Let’s do a little calculation.

Dust bonus is basically 4 * the dust reward and not end of set rewards. For most people, it translates to 4 * the dust from the first box in basic rewards. That box normally rewards 900 dust. 4 * means it is now 3600. That’s a bonus of 2700 dust per set. Which translates to 54k dust for all 20 sets. That’s all you get that’s actually a bonus. Unless you win 5/5. There’s minimal difference between winning 1/5 and 4/5 in terms of dust, which is the difference in end of set rewards, 375 dust per win.

We can generously argue that the bonus is also the fact that we are allowed to play 20 sets. In that case we can count 15 sets as the bonus at 3600 dust per set + end of set rewards winning an average of 3 per set. The bonus becomes 2700 * 5 + 3600 * 15 + (3125 * 1.3 ) * 15 = 131250 dust as a bonus for playing all sets. Which is 157k dust total.

The more realistic scenario is that people would play and win 1/5 and quit all 20 sets trying to maximize dust and minimize effort which would net you 120k. Which translates to 142k total. Note how the difference is very minimal compared to the above player trying hard and winning 3/5 in all sets.

That is unless you are winning all 5/5 which is nearly impossible unless you’re tanking. Which brings us to the thing everyone has been talking about. In Niantic’s dumb attempt to discourage tanking, they actually encouraged it further. People used to tank in Go battle nights to farm Rare candy. Now they do so to farm dust. Because the 5th reward is the only one that’s worthwhile.

This may seem like a petty point to be upset about. I mean they are giving us >120k dust for free. Why be upset at all? Let’s compare this to past seasons. I’ll do the 1/5 and 3/5 scenarios.

In season 7, a winner of 1/5 over all sets would get 3500 * 3 per set. Which translates to 140k bonus dust. Or a bonus of 192k, using the generous method of calculation. Which results in 210k dust total. The dust reward from the first box is an extra 18k. That’s 228k total dust.

Winning 3/5 would net you an extra 45k dust. The difference is much more substantial. Resulting in 273k dust total.

What about those who win 5/5 in all sets? in terms of total dust, in season 10 they would get 5k * 20 + 10.8k * 20 = 316k. In the past seasons (pre season 8) they’d get 15k * 20 + 2.7k * 20 = 354k. Even tankers are losing dust on this deal :p.

Moreover, the original Go Battle Night was an excellent time to use premium passes with 0 risk. You’d get double the end of set rewards + bonus dust from the 3rd box. Now premium passes are worthless unless you gamble that you’d win 3/5 minimum to get the dust reward. Which I would add isn’t worth as much as getting the end of set rewards multiplied.

Honestly, I thought we’d move forward in terms of dust rewards, not backwards. Required dust gets bigger with new Pokémon releases, new shadows, new legendaries. Not to mention XL Pokémon and all the new PvP leagues. As it was, getting 250k wasn’t enough to power up a single Pokémon to the max + double move. Now we’ve moved to new territory where GBL dust events are cut by quite a margin. We didn’t even count double dust rewards pre season 8 with triple dust boxes which aren’t worth nearly as much. To add insult to injury, Great Battle Days/Nights are long events that require a big time investment. They are free in terms of money but they need time and effort. Niantic promised we’d be moving towards a future with more trust, better rewards, and more communication. Yet here we are.

TLDR: if you win 3/5 today in all your sets, your total dust is ~54% what it used to be pre season 8. Not counting premium passes or star pieces.

Let me know if you find any errors in my calculations. I apologize in adavance, some of this was done hastily. Thank you!

Posted Jan 8, 2022, 1:15 PM UTC

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panopss•

Protests with your phone. Don't play this garbage

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foosee•

Totally agree :
I started to play this morning my target was 3 win to have chance to get candies for Heatran.
After 7 bulls..it encounters on 10 set, I finished my last sets by winning 1 match a leave the rest.
This season is definitvely not the best one.

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SarniaMelee•

Am I the only one that plays GBL for fun and to rank up? Rewards are a bonus but I don't need dust

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Look it the other way (which put this in a kind of worst place) you need to cstch an average of 70 pokes to aquire the same dust per set, you do a set in 15 minutes more or less, so an average of 7000 dust (winning 3 battles in the set) equals to 70 pokes, equals 5 catches per minute (with no favor weather, no extra dust pokes, etc.) which is viable, the only "downside" is maybe you need to walk, or just stay in a pokestop polluted area and profit.

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Axume4OP•

This is a nice way of looking at it. I’m just not really into catching. I also believe catching has horrible dust rewards that should be buffed a bit.

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Dust catch rewards sucks nowadays, bc of xl and more pokes,

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Axume4OP•

I agree. I propose at the very least a dust bonus for Nice, Great, and Excellent throws.

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Aeosin15•

I did 4 sets. In every match, regardless of when I started tapping, I was a half-turn behind. In probably 75% of the matches, there was an instance of lag. In 6 matches, there was a glitch, ranging from a bonus shield, a swap when I didn't tap, or not being able to use a shield when I tapped it.

Now, I'm playing on a Google Pixel 4a with Android 12. My Router is a Netgear Nighthawk R7000. My Internet connection is Fiber Optic-fed 1 Gbps DL speed connection(the best option I have available). I ALWAYS catch all of the pokemon in the area, put my phone into Airplane mode, then restart the app. There are never any other apps running while I battle. I always sit in the same room as the router, at a distance of about 12 feet away. There should be absolutely NO lag from my end.

However, Niantic can't get their S--t right, so I'm on the verge of quitting GBL. I've already played substantially less this season than any other season. In every season so far, I've played at least 1100 matches. This season is about half over, and I'm at 345. Most days, I'm lucky to do 1 set.

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YoruKhun•

This. More than half the time I start late and it feels like forever cos I have a Ho-oh lead.

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Aeosin15•

And it does not matter when I start tapping. I've tried tapping after "go" appears, when 1 disappears, when "go is fading, and just about everything in between. This absolutely should not be a thing.

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My-Territ0ry•

Stardust is a freakin free thing. WTF is Niantic stingy on stardust. What is wrong with this company? They continue to do retarded things like that and nobody will play this crap.

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moonman0331•

Forget dust, 7 sets and no Heatran. Some of the encounters were actually zero stars, WTF?

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