Many are outraged that Invoker in the anime used 3 different spheres for Sunstrike. And now I will show you that this is possible in the game.
Posted Jan 20, 2022, 5:54 PM UTC
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Cope. Q, W and E literally meld into Sunstrike.
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but we see invokers eyes glow before he the orbs even start to fly up. he clearly invokes it there...
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Only noobs think you can’t have 2 spells invoked at once.
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If I had a dollar for every time I've been accused of 'scripting' for doing a basic 3 or 4-spell combo...
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Need to buy Aghs for that.
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But this isn't what happened in the anime. Quas Wex Exort orbs were used to create the sunstrike in the game (they literally flew into the sky).
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That was actually Invoker using his taunt to throw the orbs into the sky kek
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Dendi hands queued SS up so fast the anime could only capture the next spell queued.
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valve needs to sell the brand ASAP
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In dota one wuas wex exort did invoke sunstrike
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a possible explaination is that since the sunstrike started the battle, he invoked another spell and if you don't want to reveal what spell you invoke, it's best to send the orbs high in the sky so the enemy doesn't see what you prepare to cast...
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You realize you can cast sunstrike, and then cast deafening blast before the sunstrike lands right?
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There was no blast in the anime. Your point?
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EEE R QWE D R If you invoke sunstrike, cast sunstrike, and the invoke deafening blast it would work
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Why the fuck are you saying that?? in the clips it literally shows as qwe -> sunstrike, it's simple that these creators have no dota gameplay knowledge.
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That is the pettiest complaint, I'd worry much more about budget and pacing than 3 orb sunstrike
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Yeah, agreed. My only complaint is that we didn't really see Terrorblade do much. We got hyped as hell about it, then some unknown purple ass dragon did the stuff. It went from Terrorblade to evil Barney in no time.
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That shit should have been cut, mainly if they knew in advance that they will have time constraints, why couldn't they leave the season ending with Lina becoming the empress, and maybe end on the viceroy dude telling line thay she overstepped and countering her spells as the last scene
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Its Netflix you never know how much time you'll get to tell your story. I'd rather have a finished story that struggles with pacing than an incomplete story that Netflix cuts because to many people like it.
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except they literally knew, how much time they have got, that's why it's cut as it is, is the story complete though, is the story finished, when characters just do stuff, no character development, no relation development between them, they just say stuff and it happens or we are supposed to care?
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That shit should have been cut, mainly if they knew in advance that they will have time constraints, why couldn't they leave the season ending with Lina becoming the empress, and maybe end on the viceroy dude telling line thay she overstepped and countering her spells as the last scene
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I just want invoker to be an asshole again. Seriously, why are they making him a good guy?
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Different timeline/reality. In one of the scenes between "good guy" Invoker and Terrorblade, you can see the asshole Invoker in the floating shards. So he definitely exists! Just not in the Dragon's Blood timeline.
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Not mad at you, but I hate the whole multiverse thing. It's a cop-out IMO
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It may be a cop-out but it's not new to the show. It's cannon that every single game of DotA 2 that we play is a different multiverse. Every cosmetic is a character having a different backstory from another multiverse. If anything it was used as more of a reference to the game than a way to explain stuff.
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That is the pettiest complaint
Need I remind you where we are lol
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One thing leads to another
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Checkmate atheists
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Invoker in the anime has been probably one of my favorite depictions of a mage in fiction. It was even said in one of the primer videos on YouTube that the adapted heros are unbound by balance and so are able to fully flex their power stated in the lore.
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I dont even think it's about balance. To me, the Ancients absorb and distribute all heroes' powers equally, then they fight on the same footing. I mean, they even resurrect these heroes indefinitely when most of them have no such capabilities. Having the Ancients empowering them makes perfect sense to explain game balance
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invoker in the game and in anime has interesting choice of words when he talk, I like it. about the power? hell yeah... he's capable to imprison an eldwurm into one of his orb by himself
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I mean that’s fine. But having 3 Exort orbs fly up doesn’t change that… it’s not like he’s being held back. It’s the orb colour - now would it be cooler to have the three colours over just 1 ? Sure? Idk the accuracy woulda been cool to me.
So far the answer about back when he had 27 spells and it not being sunstrike or this balance reason all seem dumb. Just say it looked cooler and move on.
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Rule of cool does indeed apply here
Invoker is badass
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It does! I’m sad I didn’t agree with it - but I know I’m being pedantic and it’s not a big deal. It’s just thats the kinda Easter egg I want. I NEED THAT FLAVOUR BRO.
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u/Chappy300 's comment may be of interest to you then.
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Well the argument is in the same vein as a semantics argument so you can't really be pikachuface over people correcting the pettiness.
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I love how you chose a dragon to keep up with the context.
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and also, black dragon :D
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The director of the series tweeted that Invoker is much more powerful in the series, because he is not limited by any game conventions and mechanics.
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Uhhhhh yes
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Rofl ill upvote you if your comment was an attempt at sarcasm.
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oof it was, but the damage is done already lol
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Absolutely correct. And on top of that, the layer of just posting it because everyone else is posting it to be part of the meme. There was that Skyrim video that's a full ten years old now screaming at some nerd for being the 10 millionth person to type "BUT THEN I TOOK AN ARROW TO THE KNEE" into the internet and people are still doing it to this day. They like being pedantic and posting le epic memes
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Holy Based Batman
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Birth of a copypasta?
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I see a wall of text, i upvote. Probably something important
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The multiverse take is really stupid. People just use it as a tool to justify all ther mistakes with "it works like this in another reality"
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Why does that spell used in the Anime even have to be the "Sunstrike" used by the Invoker from a completely different universe?
I don't hear any complaints that other mages in the Anime are clearly casting more spells than their DotA counterparts know. It's pretty explicitly stated in the lore that in the universes we play our games in, having even 4 spells is extremely difficult, so 10-spell Invoker is impressive and he only managed that by using the orbs as a mnemonic device and forgetting other spells so he only keeps the most optimized arsenal. You can actually see that Invoker shown in the multiverses displayed during the convo with TB.
In the Anime universe, that's clearly not the case.
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From what I gathered in the invoker tb conversation, anime invoker is the stormers one across all realities and the main reason for that is that he had filomena
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I like that interpretation. Maybe not necessarily the strongest one, but just the one who went the furthest out of those that reached out to Terrorblade.
Unfortunately, it makes a few quotes from our universe weird, like Wei's voice line (I take no joy in killing a father), but maybe it just means he's one of the few that actually cared about his daughter?
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This is funnier than it has any right to be
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For those who are outraged, in that case when a character died in the anime, they can be revived after several seconds, just like in the game?
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I came here only to say, THANK YOU
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lmfao
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They wanted to make everything cool so they made the orbs some sort of unique relic. To me, the orbs are just mnemonic tools Invoker uses to remember his spells (since the lore says it's pretty much impossible to even know 10 spells at once). That's honestly much cooler and a more unique take on magic than the very cliche DnD wizardry.
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Should have SunStriked Marci
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It's just a simple mistake or missed opportunity imo, to me it would have been a lot nicer if Invoker was casting spells similar to how he does ingame.
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When I was learning invoker time ago I used to think exort instances would buff the spells lol.
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The trailer for Dota itself.
Viper can bite Drow can bonk enemies with her quiver. I mean...
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https://twitter.com/ileamare/status/1484258682665848842?t=tQXNqQ9_TD__uyl9P-e6mQ&s=19
Lea actually put on Twitter that there used to be 27 spells, and soul blast matches the spell used in the anime
I like this version. However, the director of the series wrote on Twitter that the Invoker does not have spell restrictions, like in the game, he is much more powerful than his game version.
GG WE TRIED
I mean I don't think you really need to make a distinction. Invoker in DOTA lore is insanely powerful already. He has likely learned and forgotten more spells than he needs. Dota the game has characters grow in strength to the point that a relatively normal human like sven, juggernaut, pa pretty much ascend to the point that they can match literal gods and fundamentals. The biggest distinction between the 2 is invoker from the anime hasn't quite lost his fucking marbles. That and how a magus pre ancient intervention dwarfs people like luna, mirana and even DK. I kinda would love to see Invokers long time rival rubick who is atleast comparable.
Sven is part human part fish actually.
Also, sad that no one called Invoker by his true name... Carl. They did mention something about him casting his name aside though. How can someone cast aside such a name though... And you say he hasn't lost his marbles.
Ya, I'm aware he is part Meranth but I mean he is also human, also Meranth are like fish people already. I just used them because they are mostly just extremely skilled and strong people not magical beings. I guess the same kinda goes for like beastmaster am and some others but as much as I like am his claims of his abilities being purity of will seems a bit sus.
Well, that's the point, isn't it? He's so powerful that he managed to get everyone to forget his name. It's a statement to his longevity, if nothing else
Me too, buddy. I'm just scared that the animefication of Rubick would render him unrecognizable, like changing his voice, speech pattern or even removing his mask, or trying to make him a standard anime chad.
Might be a good way to bring Aghanim into the story too, though his labyrinth line seems to suggest yes not the most engaged father.
theres no way aghanim doesn't son invoker right?
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wow is invoker tinker in the anime? haven't watched it yet.
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Oh yeah the plot armor or is there a different name for these kind of plothole things?
Plot armor is when a main character gets out of ridiculous situations with ass pulls because they have to live for their to be a show.
This is just an adaptation difference.
pretty sure invoker knows more than 27spells and it's more of a case of gameplay limitation
I don’t think that’s plot armor. Or the mounts going faster than humans or dragons flying over cliffs would be plot armor. It’s just that gameplay was never a direct representation of character power since then most heroes would basically be creeps next to the few powerful ones lol
KEKW and ppl were bashing the director/writers for not knowing how invoker works, turn out it’s us who don’t know how OG invoker works, intentionally from them or not.
Now that's a plot twist I wasn't expecting gg wp
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Old dota you say?
That's getting my hopes that that gambler and dark terminator suddenly appear in the background.