How do you translate Law's attack? Because most of Law's attacks are German, and most translations translated it as "Shock Wille" when in my opinion it should be "Schock Welle". In kanji, it's written as 衝撃波動 and in katakana as ショック ヴィレ (shokku vire).
Posted Feb 1, 2022, 5:14 AM UTC
There's two possibilities:
Oda intended for it to be Schockwelle, the German word for Shock Wave, but miswrote the reading (ショックヴィレ rather than ショックヴェレ).
It's a weird pun with the word Wille. This is what the wiki says.
I'd go for the first one, since the Kanji literally mean Shock (衝撃) Wave (波動), and Law has no punny or symbolic attacks. The name just states what the attacks do.
Yeah, I agree. Also interesting that in this chapter Law's KROOM from chapter 1030 was changed to K・ROOM in this chapter still with the same pronunciation. In Katakana it's written as クローム (kurōmu) which means Chrome or Chromium, and Law's name is written like this ロー (rō) so I think Oda is doing a pun with Law's name there.
I really have no idea what KROOM is supposed to mean. Since the reading changes for the ROOM part I assume it's supposed to be a pun, but chrome doesn't really mean anything in this context either.
It might be a reference to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_stainless_steel?wprov=sfla1.
yeah I thought the same, like.. it could be the will of shock or something, you can always be creative with naming things especially by not using ur own language (as oda does) but the will of shock makes so much less sense, even when the second last katakana is depicting an "I" as the vocal, it doesn't have to be translated that way because of difference in pronounciation, I've had just yesterday some word translated into japanese, which was one of these "we take the english and write it in katakana"-words, but the japanese seem to form the katakana after how it sounds for them and not which vocals are used in the original. And now that I think of it, they use mostly the "i" for english e so it would be udual to use it that way for the japanese audience to not be confused, even if in german the e doesn't sound like an i.
Katakana choices aren't based around English readings of non-English words, that wouldn't make any sense.
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- great now I wanted to correct it to not confuse people and it all simply vanished, I'm out here, reddit gets on my nerves as the comment section somehow doesn't work properly rn, the explenaition below is better anyways xD
Just so you wrote the Kanji for 1 instead of a vowel extension.
And yeah, Katakana is used phonetically. But that is based on Japanese phonetics, trying to adapt the word's pronunciation to the sounds Japanese has. The way the word is written in its original language is irrelevant if done correctly. So, regarding this part:
That's not really how it works. They use イ sounds for most English "e" sounds because that's how they are pronounced. It's not all "e"s, first thing that comes to mind is ゴルドエクスペリエンス from Jojo Part 5. Even the word in question (Welle) has two German "e" sounds, so I don't know why you think they'd change one and not the other. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
that's exactly what I meant, you defenitly explained it better and less confusing and you're right about the second e, I simply ignored like a dumbass.
then I think the other comment in here makes sense as oda intended to make a pun, as it sounds roughly similar, meant it to be 'schockwelle' with a pun on 'wille' as law is really some plotpoint for the will of d.
and yes I did as I have no clue about where to find special stuff on my keyboard (and forget stuff as I look it up anyways) and simply wanted that line to be there without having to look stuff up again, I'm sorry for being lazy
Yeah, especially since Oda has a pattern with naming Law's attacks with something related to surgery and operating rooms, and because Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy is a real thing. The scans, official English, and official Portuguese translations translated it as "Shock Wille" and they even got the "Schock" part wrong. I thought I was going crazy.
Edit: I removed the Law's moves in German part because I misremembered, because I think only Sterben is German.
I don't blame them for not knowing german right away and as there's the i in the japanese and Wille is also a german word, it's somehow ok, just sitting there as german speaking people it's absolutely confusing.. at least for the scan people I don't blame them, they often do better translations than the official team (who should've known better, like do some research if you're paid for it) as they mostly go after "yea that's roughly the sense behind what the japanese says" which leads to so much confusion and so many useless discussions. I hate how they often translate stuff out of the blue, adding or taking away words which could be important, but it sounds better!? Oo
Maybe I'm being too harsh because I just remembered not all of Law's moves are in German, I think only Sterben is German, and all of his other moves are in English, French, Dutch, Japanese. Mes is a word in Dutch that means knife but Japan borrowed it to mean scalpel or surgical knife.
as I don't find any quick result for a list of his attacks I have to say I don't know, havin' a memory like swiss cheese isn't the best trait to say something about that, I think there might be one other word, but only one I think I remember something, but not sure at all :O
Dutch is such a cute language btw*-* german sounds always so.. hard and strict but Mes ~ ^8^// I couldn't fear a Mes♥ xD :3