Is it strange for a man to keep a journal or diary?

Which discusses events etc. The reason I ask this is because I myself keep one on a flash drive encrypted. To my shock my gf said it's odd for men to keep a diary and she said she would be highly suspicious of a man that does. :/

Posted Apr 25, 2012, 4:26 PM UTC

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Conchobair•

Is it strange for a man to keep a journal

No. Especially if you enjoy writing. It's a great way to practice and keep in the habit.

or diary?

Yes. Don't call it a diary.

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ravenouscraving•

Yes. Don't call it a diary.

Memories of Doug Funny flooding back.

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aclose78•
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sp00kyd00m•

or a 'yernal'

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itscalledcenturion•

What's wrong with calling it a diary? If anything, in the UK you'd get mocked for calling it a journal. Diary is fine.

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tarobubbletea•

Interesting.

In the US, "diary" has a kind of little-girlish connotation, whereas "journal" sounds more adult and serious. Is it the other way around for you guys?

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Veora•

Another Englishman here, my experience reflects yours, Diary is associated with the younger female's in my head.

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itscalledcenturion•

I think diary is almost interchangeable with schedule or calendar here. Not quite, but almost. 'I'll check my diary' etc.

Journal seems very teenaged.

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jeinga•

Hahaha, your girlfriend questions your sexuality.

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Grlmm•

Hahaha, you point out an obvious flaw in their relationship in a nonchalant way.

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chief_running_joke•

Hahaha, you mock comments on reddit by imitating their tone and structure.

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iheartart•

haha, i have nothing original to say

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[deleted]•

Hahahaha

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Grlmm•

Hahaha, successful troll is successful.

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Vodka_Cereal•

Dear Diary,

Today my girlfriend was a bitch.

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isitstrange100OP•

LMAO no I don't say things like that. In fact, don't usually talk about people. How boring would that be?

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[deleted]•

What's the purpose of this diary? I think it's kinda weird actually.

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isitstrange100OP•

haha! She doesn't know I have one

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jeinga•

Hahaha, but if she did she'd think you like penis.

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isitstrange100OP•

Well that's another thread entirely ;)

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ifragginlovetoast•

Hahaha . . . wait, you ruined it.

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isitstrange100OP•

errrrrrrr

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FunMonkeyDisease•

I wish I had a girlfriend to question my sexuality :(

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No. Do whatever you want, don't give a fuck what others think.

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isitstrange100OP•

Agree!

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FatHippo•

let me ask reddit if I agree...

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isitstrange100OP•

hmmmmm I see what you're getting at there

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sheriff_skullface•

Pro tip: Always call it a journal, NEVER a diary.

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Dopethrown•

I call it a captain's log.

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Cameron94•

I was going to say exactly the same thing before I read your reply! Sorry...I get excited when someone thinks the same...

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Dopethrown•

Great minds think alike.

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toastybred•

Exactly what I was thinking. The only thing is he would have to pick up scrimshaw as a hobby too.

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1ll0gic•

Brilliant

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WhiteBelt•

I like to call mine a codex.

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isitstrange100OP•

Why is that? I...I don't understand

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sheriff_skullface•

Because bad-ass adventurers have journals, and 7th grade girls have diaries.

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isitstrange100OP•

Oh I see.

lol

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Brocode thing

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LostCauseway•

AFAIK a journal is something you write in daily (or just regularly) - it can be anything: reflections, poetry, creative writing, whatever.

A diary is where you write about your day ("I found a dollar"; "Sally said my dress made me look fat.")

Edit: That being said, there's nothing wrong with a guy keeping a diary. It'll help you reflect on daily life and think things over.

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iglidante•

Your girlfriend has a very narrow view of male sexuality. I would suggest talking with her about what keeping a journal means to you, and why you do it.

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isitstrange100OP•

oh god no she'll laugh I think :/

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ravenouscraving•

Then get rid of her.

Why would you keep someone around that would think such things about you that forces you to hide them?

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Backstop•

If you figure that out, you'll have solved a large portion of humanity's daily problems.

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b_pilgrim•

Because you're young and you don't understand what a quality relationship is.

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notthegolfer•

Look being young and pretty much only interested in sex I feel I can say that if I were to want a serious relationship, I wouldn't want to be worried about "oh gosh I hope she doesn't find this creepy." I am going to scratch my ass, or watch teen mom, or whatever the hell I am going to do, if she finds it offensive/unattractive, then we probably have other problems as well. It's something to be hashed out and if it's going to be dealbreakers for either one of us then we need to find out right at the start, why waste time?

I digress and apologize for the pointless babbling.

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isitstrange100OP•

she doesn't know I keep one, never will so it's not a problem

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flynnski•

You ought to be able to share anything with the person you're with.

(doesn't mean you should. but you should at least be able to.)

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StrewwelChris•

She doesn't sound like a very good girlfriend.

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isitstrange100OP•

Nahhhh she's cute <3

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StrewwelChris•

So was Lorena Bobbit.

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[deleted]•

No, it's awesome. Plenty of powerful men, historically, have kept journals or diaries.

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notthegolfer•

But it goes to show that writing in a journal/diary =/= make you a queer/loser/whathaveyou.

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WitnShit•

Voldemort kept a diary and it was Dumbledore who turned out to be gay.

So fuck your gf, she has no idea what she's talking about.

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isitstrange100OP•

WTF lmfao

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one_eyed_jack•

Journals are good. A lot of historical knowledge comes from personal journals. In a thousand years, your entries might be in a museum, long after your girlfriend is forgotten.

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ocarina_21•

Yes, this. It's a lot of stuff that might seem really unimportant now, but is relevant down the line. Even if it's just mundane stuff about daily life, it's part of filling out an appropriate picture of history.

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[deleted]•

Too bad a lot of journals kept today are likely to be locked under encryption and would be very difficult for future historians to access.

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one_eyed_jack•

28th century historians will laugh at our 21st century encryption codes.

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tommy2712•

Serious: Contrary to popular belief Men also need outputs for emotions. Kidding: Faget OP keeps Diary!

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Sinjun13•

I've got no evidence to back it up, but I'm guessing the idea that only girls write in diaries came about after television - particularly after family sitcoms where the girls write "Dear Diary" entries. There used to be no distinction between "journal" or "diary".

And it's perfectly manly to keep one, no matter what you call it. Teddy Roosevelt kept one...and he was a badass.

Hell, Art of Manliness included journal writing as one of their steps to becoming a better man: http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/07/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-8-start-a-journal/

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[deleted]•

Are you kidding? I wish my boyfriend kept a journal. I know it would help him deal with his insecurities and problems and develop new ideas for projects. He would be so happy if he found a means of journaling that worked for him, he just hasn't yet.

No, it's not strange at all. Your gf sounds a bit narrow-minded.

Although others have suggested that it has something to do with sexuality, I think it might have something to do with trust and attention. To some people, the thought that their partner keeps private thoughts to themselves is really uncomfortable. Often they feel like they are not good enough for their partner to share everything with, and they resent the space that a journal necessarily creates between them.

To such a person, it feels like you must be keeping "bad" or "guilty" secrets about betraying them or not loving them very much if you feel the need to keep them in a journal rather than just share them.

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TacheErrante•

Not strange at all. And gender has nothing to do with it. People think keeping a journal is girly because they think it is mainly used to rant about stuff or write endlessly about your feelings, etc.

But it obviously has other purposes. Since the form of the journal isn't strict at all (unlike essays, for example, that need to have a general direction and require cohesion), it is perfect for writing down random or more elaborate thoughts.

It can also be used to keep track of your own life. I like to be able to have such a direct access to my personal past, to be reminded of what I used to do, like, think, several years ago. I also like to be able to see how my writing style evolved, how my preoccupations and interested changed through time. Fifty years from now, I know I'll be thankful to myself for keeping a journal.

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Daaaaaaaay-o•

Nope, you're in very good company.

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vecnyj•

Yes, but call it a Mission Log.

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kcman011•

I keep one and I don't fucking care who knows. My wife said nearly the same thing when she found out I keep one and I gave about as many fucks then that I do now.

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isitstrange100OP•

ahh brilliant

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KINGCOCO•

I don't but it is one of the things I really have wanted to start doing for a long time. I really regret not doing it already. Mostly as a way to look back and remember the good and bad times in my life. You think you will remember all these great little moments but then you try to look back at the past 2-3 years and so much of its forgotten. It's just a big fucking blur. I also want to because I imagine looking over my entries across time would give me some really good insight into myself. Things or people that make me happy/unhappy, how I react to social situations, how I am really spending my days, and the general flow of my life. It's very hard to look at yourself over the last year and see yourself and how you spent your time for accurately. I also imagine writing out the events of a day would help you think about them better. Fuck I need to start keeping a diary.

I also want to take more pictures but I hate being that guy with the camera. And when you are the guy with the camera your usually taking the photos as opposed to being in them. What I need is a friend who loves to take pictures.

Edit to add: I think your girlfriend is kind of a bitch for giving you shit about this. I can only see this in a positive light.

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quantumsheep•

Why would she be suspicious? By its very nature, a diary is a place to textualise your thoughts and feelings (you're not hiding anything, you're actually writing it down). Wouldn't it be a good outlet at the end of the day to help you de-stress?

Don't worry about it man, you're fine. It'll be fun to read back on in years to come.

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StrewwelChris•

It may be strange, but that really doesn't matter. If you want to keep one, keep one.

...she said she would be highly suspicious of a man that does. :/

I'd be seriously questioning my relationship if my other half had so little trust for me that a little privacy made her suspicious.

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isitstrange100OP•

I feel like an idiot for calling it a diary haha

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[deleted]•

I've always understood the distinction of:

Journal - events

Diary - feelings

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