Imagine a wargaming group that vocally harps about being anti-nazi, but makes excuses for ukranian neo-nazis because its war time.

In the grim darkness of the far future, ^Neo ^Nazis ^during ^war ^is ^okay.

TLDR: "Neo nazis are not welcome here.... except in times of war, then its a nuanced issue, if you keep grilling us then you're probably a putin supporter."

And let me be clear for context, I don't support Putin, I don't support the war. What this is about is a community that takes pride in being against neo nazis, they really love the <particular company> phrase "You're not welcomed here." ... unless there is an actual war involved then """"its complicated.""""

It started when I pointed out the irony of users calling russia fascist when Ukrainian government is currently supporting the Azov nazi battle group that's defending the territory. Instead of also condemning this group, which would have been the easiest reply to me for me to agree with, they resort to gaslighting.

People will, in this order argue:

1. Minimalize azov existence or involvement when its not true. They're heavily involved. Obviously they're not the majority (thankfully).

2. Say russia has neo nazis, as if somehow that makes neo nazis in ukraine ok or excusable as an argument.

3. Go through my profile to try and find skeletons in my closet. Trying to call me an antivaxxer because I post in covid satire subs despite the fact almost half of Ukraine is "vaccine hesitant." Which is bonus irony, and also irrelevant.

4. Finally maybe they'll acknowledge that ukraine neo nazis are bad, but because its war, they tolerate their existence for now.

All these excuses for why this battalion has to exist. This battalion never had to exist if Ukraine actually got the support from the EU since 2005. If the world didn't sit there and watch as Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and this group formed. But because all those things happened, its tolerated now.

Funny how the thread lasted as long as it did despite the fact the sub rules say no politics. But the only active mod decided this was okay. He was okay with the harassment, he was okay with the excuses it seemed because you can just rationalize that anyone critical must be a putin supporter or some shit. Somehow they can argue there is "nuance" in tolerating neo nazis but not nuance in being against BOTH ukranian neo nazis and russia.

It's just really weird redditors would resort to so many scummy tactics before getting to the "Yeah, those neonazis are scum, but...." of their arguments. They don't want to face the inconvenient truth that despite their rhetoric, they have to acknowledge neonazis and make excuses for them. These are the same people that will drum up and call anyone they don't like a neo nazi.

I don't care for my ban, I don't post often, I just browse the feed to look at the painted minis. I just don't tolerate bullshit excuses and hypocrisy for neo nazis. It's not far fetched when even PCM recognizes the irony and makes fun of these redditors.

The writing exercised revealed just how delusional a lot of redditors are and will suspend their principles and beliefs to maintain "certain narratives" and be on "certain teams." I thought reddits love of being against nazis in any and all circumstances was an impervious principle, I was wrong.