This game makes me feel how Borderlands 2 made me feel when I first played it.

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In 2012, I was watching TV at home and saw an advert for Borderlands 2. Never heard of the series or played the games, but the advert intrigued me enough to buy it. Little did I know it'd become my favourite game of all time.

In a time when the PS3 was a bit of a dull console with a crap selection of games, BL2 made me love gaming all over again. Everything about it just clicked for me. When BL3 was announced and the trailer dropped, I was ridiculously hyped! Unfortunately, the game was underwhelming with annoying villains and an awful story. The gameplay was great, but the rest just felt off to me.

Playing Wonderlands for the first time, and I feel that magic I felt back in 2012 when I picked up BL2. The gameplay is so satisfying, the spells and visual effects are amazing, the lands and characters are weird and wonderful, and I'm just so damn hooked playing this game. I haven't moved for hours and am fully sucked in and absorbed in the game and its world. This easily blows BL3 out of the water for me so far.

Don't get me wrong, it's not absolutely perfect. I've noticed a few little annoying bugs like hero stats text disappearing when scrolling down the list. A melee weapon spinning around on the ground. Some weird physics things with loot. And various other small menu-type bugs which are a bit irritating. But nothing so much as to totally ruin my experience.

Anyway I'm just going to ramble on if I carry on, but honestly I'm having a blast. What are you guys thoughts on it?

Posted Mar 31, 2022, 9:29 PM UTC · edited

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Roughneck95•

Honestly, the few things I don’t like about the game are very nitpicky; I wish I could go faster in the Overworld, and the amount of spells that drop feels annoying, but that’s it!

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I absolutely loathe the overworld, but it'd be damn near perfect if you could "fast travel" anywhere within it. Like, in-universe pick up your piece and drop it anywhere you've already explored. Backtracking on it just takes so long, I tend to fast travel to a map near where I want to go then travel to the overworld but that's two loading screens which shouldn't be necessary.

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Cpt_plainguy•

You basically can... if you open the map to the overworld, you can select any zones you've been in and fast travel to a travel point within it instead of having to run all the way there, then just leave the zone via the overworld gate

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I genuinely appreciate you trying to help with the annoyance because it was a few days before I learned that was possible, but that is literally what I describe doing in my comment.

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Cpt_plainguy•

Ha! The last couple sentences didn't even register in my work addled brain lol

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Xvultrex•

I'm not sure if you are on PC, but there i can. You can move your map selection on each area after "backing out"(one of the key selections viewable at the bottom of the screen) and select an area specifically moving your overworld map to the center of it. You can then press another button to change focus to that area and "holding e(on pc)" lets you teleport to that area like in bl3.

Edit: you can do this without ever entering the overworld as long as you have fast travel there

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cc7ripOP•

Bang on. They aren't huge problems and I didn't include them in my post, but you're right. Overworld speed could use an increase. And the amount of spells that drop constantly is really annoying. On the other hand, I've not seen a single legendary drop yet which is good. I always felt BL3 went way over the top with those, and they didn't really feel legendary because they dropped so often.

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That might be becos they r forcing us to pick up all the damn dice

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Artemis_Bow_Prime•

I wish you could turn the camera in the overworld.

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abqnm666•

R1 to zoom in the overworld kinda helps in some areas, at least. Once I discovered that, it made navigating the overworld a little easier.

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DentonTrueYoung◽◻️ | 🍄 𝑾𝒊𝒍𝒅𝑭𝒊𝒓𝒆 🐉 | ◻️◽•

There is a shrine that gives you added movement speed

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Roughneck95•

Does that affect Overworld movement speed as well, or is that just in-map speed?

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DentonTrueYoung◽◻️ | 🍄 𝑾𝒊𝒍𝒅𝑭𝒊𝒓𝒆 🐉 | ◻️◽•

Both I believe. Certainly overworld.

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Artichokiemon◽◻️ | ☠️ 𝑫𝒆𝒂𝒅𝑺𝒉𝒐𝒕 ☄️ | ◻️◽•

Thats a good call. This may be my favorite entry in the series so far. The spell system is a welcome departure from the old gun/grenade formula, and there is something so satisfying about blasting a skeleton in the face with an ice spike. The writing is great, and it's neat that easter eggs were worked in to the plot and side quests instead of just flavor text on legendaries. I would have liked to see your Hero stats have a greater impact on gameplay than a single corresponding trait (who needs Ability recharge rate when you run dual spells?) but that's just nitpicking on my part.

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RussiaWorldPolice•

Wait which game contained Easter eggs only in the legendary flavor texts?

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JaksDaddy•

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Same boat. I need to get my butt back to work but Tinas got other plans for me 😆

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CuckedPlebbit12345•

I think many people will end up calling Wonderlands their favorite of the Borderlands series. When I heard about it, I thought it was gonna mostly be a side project for the devs to quell BL fans until 4 comes out, and a bit of a test for features they have been working on but haven't committed to 100% for BL4.

Well, I'm just gonna say that there is no shortage of new features that they should continue implementing, the most obvious being the portals back to the town square in Brighthoof.

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Cthepo•

Would I be crazy to say that I wouldn't even mind if they shifted focus from the "main" Borderlands series and put more into continuing with more Wonderlands games? The setting, story, spells, and everything else has been really enjoyable.

I'm not necessarily dying to find out what happens in BL3, but I could see myself loving self contained Wonderlands 2 and 3. I think having brand new stories not related to the previous ones would actually be a boon. The siren/vault thing feels a little stale.

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I would say that's some recency bias with the portals. If we remember BL2, they had a lot more vendors per sqft as opposed to BL3 and Wonderlands. Both games which you accumulate a lot of loot quickly, but end up with no place to sell them until much much later. If they had more vendors at the proper spots, then the portal in town won't feel as useful

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CuckedPlebbit12345•

I will say that there are many areas that are a struggle to find vendors in, since the maps are ridiculously huge, but it's a very minor nitpick for me.

I like the portals so far because I can go back to town, sell stuff, maybe respec and change my appearance, and then head back to my farm spot without even navigating any menus, AND it basically acts like save-quitting so I can immediately resume the farming.

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Well it doesn't got exactly to a spot, it goes to the nearest checkpoint. My point is that you said:

Well, I'm just gonna say that there is no shortage of new features that they should continue implementing, the most obvious being the portals back to the town square in Brighthoof.

My thing about vendors isn't a nitpick. Both are solutions to the whole inventory issue issue. There really isn't a good acceptable reason BL doesn't add more vendors. Look I get it, you love the game. I like it too. But I'm not going to look at this game with rose tinted lenses. For BL3 and this game, bugs aside, it's very clear Gearbox has either no UI/UX people or a shoddy set of UI/UX people. People I will immediately reject at my company if I ever see Gearbox in the resume

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Beans_37•

same boat here. all the complaints i see could be fixed within a patch or two. at that point the game will be amazing

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fixed within a patch or two

Yes. But if it was that simple, why release it before it’s ready?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying the game a lot, and way more than I expected. But (on PC at least) that’s a handful of issues that I hope they address soon.

  • Journal is blank roughly 50% of the time
  • Inventory not properly loading
  • Connection issues when trying to play with friends

And a few other relatively minor things. But these are all things they knew didn’t work before release, yet it was released anyway. I just wish we could get to a point where developers stop releasing products with a significant amount of known issues.

It’s one thing to come across some obscure bug after release. That’s always gonna happen. But when you know your product has some pretty glaring issues you’re very much aware of, it’s a problem.

Admittedly my frustration is more directed towards the industry than GB, but where do we draw the line?

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Beans_37•

in their defense, all the issues i’ve seen are minor like that. it wouldn’t make sense to delay a bit over that, and it’s good to avoid game crunching or whatever the term is.

these issues can be fixed early on with a. patch, not too big of a deal. i do agree with you but i don’t think it’s a problem

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Gaming is the ONLY industry where it’s “ok” is the problem.

If I sold you a TV under the impression that it’s brand new, never used, and nothing wrong with it and then you get home and 10% of the time it simply went blank, you’d be upset. Or an new engine for your car. The list goes on.

Gaming is the only industry where you’re charged full price, expect a solid, polished product, and when you get something other than that we just ignore it in the hopes it’s fixed at a later date.

Again, the game is good. It’s great even. But considering the issues it shouldn’t have been $60.

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Beans_37•

true true. still love the game lol

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WhoTheFuckIsTaco•

Love it but playing online with my wife on a separate system is kinda infuriating. I died laying right next to her and she said she couldn't find me. I don't know if it's just my settings but I can never find her unless I open the big map. A directional indicator on the mini map would be great. If it's there and I don't see it, for the love of God tell me where!!!

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DentonTrueYoung◽◻️ | 🍄 𝑾𝒊𝒍𝒅𝑭𝒊𝒓𝒆 🐉 | ◻️◽•

Yeah the nameplates in coop actually suck.

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albynoplatypus•

It's a fantastic game. Would love to see a new game+ added eventually but I'm just one to become attached to my character and love replaying the story (aka chronic office watcher syndrome) for the details.

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Ploogak•

Agree, Wonderlands is great but i do wish we could have more ability/spell-slots.

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_Fred_Fredburger_•

Borderlands 3 is awesome. I'm still playing it. Definitely my favorite so far!

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Bcornah98•

I agree this game has made me feel like a Borderlands 4 will finally be worth it. The few bugs that are in the game are funny but I can't wait to see what the first patch does, especially with the bugged trophies and achievements. But with this franchise finally having new life I'm incredibly happy

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Oh good - glad to hear I'm not the only one with bugged achievements. The funniest being that I did not get the lvl 20 achievement but did get the lvl 30 and lvl 40 achievements (on xbox).

And, yeah, this game has me as hooked, if not more hooked, than Borderlands 2. Just so well done.

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Bcornah98•

I didn't know the level ones were bugged I know the side quests one are bugged, when the updates come though it should fix it

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BLAMITYblamblam•

BL3 felt stale. I am loving wonderlands! Only thing that can ruin it for me right now is a bunch of nerfs.

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katzeye007•

I played the first hour today. Huge BL fan. I'm not liking the overworld weirdness. Have no idea what that's about. Otherwise it's ok, need to give it some more time

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Tangochief•

The overworld basicly replaces the car mechanic from borderlands. Frankly I often though the driving mechanic in borderlands was gimmicky and unneeded so I’m enjoying the overworld although it is also gimmicky and I’m sure after a couple of play through a all be all but over it lol

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YendysWV•

I don’t hate it. I do, however, hope that at some point in the future global fast travel opens up.

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Rhayve•

When you say "fast travel" do you mean faster transportation in the overworld? I'm asking because warping/instant travel between major areas (and to certain locations within each) is already available.

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YendysWV•

O i thought you had to go to the overworld to change zones. Haha

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Keslo•

"What's this button do?"

😱

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Tangochief•

Yes that would be nice

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Nualia92•

? There already is a global fast travel. Just press F in the map for the world map

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katzeye007•

Huh? Why are there quests? Why am is bobble head thing? It makes no sense

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Tangochief•

Some game masters in D&D will have a world map so you have reference to where your character is in the fantasy world. I assume this would be a reference to that

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Gr3yHound40•

It's just a new way of traveling that fits the motif of a tabletop game. I honestly like it way more than driving

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I love driving in BL3. Zooming on the cycle was great

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