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There's an undetectable trade-window exploit in the wild now. I recommend avoiding trades with strangers.

There's an undetectable trade-window exploit in the wild now. I recommend avoiding trades with strangers.

self-post, no karma. not trying to start a debate about the policy, just wanted to warn people.

32Ash posted a thread 5 days ago - clarification in comment by aznperson

bottom line: there are trade exploits in the wild that do not rely on the old quick-switching and relying-on-your-victim-to-not-notice.

there is no visual cue to ascertain whether you are about to be scammed. don't buy stacks from strangers.

ensuring you accept the trade after the other party may help mitigate this, but you're still vulnerable to a variation on the older timing attack that way.

the 2nd link above explains it.

I filed a ticket to find out the policy on this. Got a real reply (after boilerplate replies, of course):

ticket response

I blurred the GM's name. I don't want him getting harassed, and I appreciate him taking the time to write a human response that his peers in the ticket wouldn't. :)

here's the text of the ticket response for those of you who can't do imgur:

>So if I buy gold via the RMAH and then another player uses a known exploit to take it, I have no recourse?

Correct, at this time there is no recourse in this type of situation. You can report the player to us and we will investigate their actions whenever possible, but please do not expect that a reimbursement will be on the way or anything of that nature in Diablo 3. Regrettably, it is just not a service we are able to provide at this time.

tldr: the bold stuff.

Posted Jul 16, 2012, 1:08 AM UTC

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theredballDinkleburg#1574•

Oh it's the stacked items thing.

It's weird you made a thread about another thread

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stephangb•

To be honest, I just noticed it now that you said.

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Heretick•

More like ASCII sword of fiery indifference.

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doriancat•

You know, D2 had a system where if 1 person removes an item, the whole accept button becomes greyed out for around 3-4 seconds to prevent this very thing of people swapping out items really quickly and accepting. Did they just not learn anything from D2?

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Patze•

Apparently not. I can't fathom this how total shit D3 manual trading system can be. It is fucking 2012 not 1998.

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32Ash•

Good to see my own thread getting linked to :D.

Yes, it's still out there. I emailed blizzard exact details of how to reproduce the glitch. Never got a response from them. Waiting another week or so and then I may post the full glitch details if I don't hear anything/it looks like they're not doing anything (I've since tested and learned more about how to pull it off seamlessly). I even emailed them a simple coding change they can make to stop it from happening.

Also, you don't have to be next to a vendor. And the scammer can be the one who accepts the trade first.

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TheLaughingGodGG•

I would like to give you more info on this me and my friends recreated it and you can change the items AFTER the victim presses accept. :/

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RhynocerousRhyno•

This gets posted like 5 times a day.

Don't accept first, if they refuse to accept first don't trade.

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xenthum•

And look like a scammer yourself. Any two redditors trying to trade results in a "Accept first." "Nou." "Scammer!" "YOU'RE a scammer, accept first!"

This isn't logical advice in any way, SOMEONE has to accept second. Therefore someone is always a suspect of wrongdoing in every transaction.

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RhynocerousRhyno•

So don't fucking trade if you don't trust the other guy and he's accusing you of scamming. With the current trade window there is NO fullproof method that both parties can use at the same time.

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xenthum•

Ok. So in a game that is all about items and, more than ever, about the trade of items, I should completely disregard the oldest and most-used form of trading because Blizzard can't be bothered to fix it, since it doesn't effect their cut.

The answer is get scammed or don't trade, rather than fix the broken trade system.

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32Ash•

The scammer can trade first and pull off this scam. FYI.

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RhynocerousRhyno•

Proof?

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32Ash•

I already said I was going to post the exploit in a week or so if blizzard doesn't patch it. I emailed blizzard the glitch and was giving them some time to fix it.

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RhynocerousRhyno•

So you're using a different glitch than everyone else and it's a seeeeekrit?

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[deleted]•

tl;dr OP is an idiot

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[deleted]•

Him along with every other person that posts about "trade scam exploits" every day.

People are just stupid

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