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Yoshable

Got a pair of Atomic Hawx Magna 130s, and they feel very snug only if I'm wearing thick socks, have a .5 size down insert, and tighten all the buckles to max. Should I trade in for a size down, or should I keep these since they are comfortable at this setting?

My previous boots were size 27.5 Head racing boots, and felt too tight and gave me blisters after nearly every use (they are also 13 years old now). The new Hawx are too big at 28.5, but with the half size insert and thick socks, I'm able to keep my heel from swimming in the boot. Should I see about getting a 27.5 Hawx instead, or will I be ok with just a very tightened boot? Do the Hawx Magna tend to expand a bit with use?

Posted Sep 20, 2022, 3:08 PM UTC

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anonymousbreckian•

Go get resized by a bootfitter. You bought way too big.

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ll_ninetoe_llA-Basin•

Came here to say this.

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Generally, if boots are "comfortable" when you are standing in them in a normal standing position, that boot is too big. You should feel pressure against your toes in this stance, and should feel that pressure diminish to something comfortable (but not go away entirely) when you flex the boot by putting your knees over your toes while keeping your heels on the ground.

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Johnny9s•

Go see a good bootfitter. Your boots are too big and possibly the wrong volume as well as the magna is a bucket of a boot.

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theskiadvisors•

##WHAT DID YOUR BOOTFITTER SUGGEST?##

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Cheap_Host7363•

Hawx Magna is a 102 last, high volume boot. Unless you have giant feet (I'm US15, wide forefoot, narrower heel), it's almost certainly too big. For me, it's amazing, nothing fits as well. If it's a little loose brand new, it's almost certainly too big. The upper cuff buckles can be removed and placed in a different position with an allen wrench.

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Philippe-R•

Get a size down. (And maybe another model..?). A boot too large is unfixable and will only get worse.

A good rule of thumb is to try the shell without the liner (with your socks). You shouldn't be able to fit much more than a finger between your heel and the shell

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Bumblebee2072•

I own a pair of Hawk Magnas and I adore them! I have very wide and high, but small feet and these boots work well for me. I did get them adjusted (the memory foam part) at the bootfitter and I recommend everyone to do the same. So if the boot is too big atm and you still have a chance to change them, then do that and go and see a bootfitter and find a boot that fits perfectly for you.

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Climsal•

Agreed, the Hawx Magnas are awesome for wide feet folks.

I have the 110S flex version and popped in a Sidas flat foot insert and have absolutely zero pain and can ski the entire day no problem. I def do heel and calf stretches when I wake up and have had zero plantar fasciitis problems.

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wellju•

A ski boot to big is undriveable and dangerous.

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404__LostAngelesCrystal Mountain•

You need to go see a bootfitter, only they will be able to directly analyze and address your feet/boot issues. Really you should have worked with a fitter to find boots to begin with, and if you’re able to return the ones you recently bought, I would definitely suggest doing so and working with a fitter to find the right boots for your feet.

In regards to sock thickness, you should for thin. Doing so will help keep your blood circulating correctly, which in turn will keep your feet warm. Thick socks on the other hand will constrict blood flow and make your feet cold.

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YoshableOP•

Yep, read all the comments and that's the plan. I got them from Evo so return isn't an issue. Problem is idk if any bootfitters are working here until the season starts

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rramstad•

I have these exact boots and purchased them from evo as well. I bought them early this last season and skied on them for one year.

I normally wear a men's 12 and 4E width in street shoes.

The 28.5 works fine for me, but I have pizza feet, very wide up front, typical heel.

I have custom footbeds and use a thin sock.

If you typically wear a smaller street shoe than I do, that's a good sign that the 28.5 is too big.

It is a high volume boot.

The stuff you are adding shouldn't be added -- if you are putting this much stuff in there now, it's a sign the boot is too big.

I don't know if they have bootfitters working right at this exact instant, but they very well might. Go online and see if you can make an appointment.

If they don't have bootfitters now, someone at the store can certainly tell you when that'll start, and I'm sure it'll be early November at the latest, and you can get in before there is any snow in North America anyway.

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rramstad•

Oh, and they definitely need to be baked to get the memory foam right for your feet -- if you haven't seen anyone for that yet, it's a crucial step in the process.

They definitely can change the buckles around -- either to the allen wrench setting or even beyond that, you can punch holes in the boot if you've got narrow calves -- but again, if simply going down to the other notch doesn't solve the problem, that's a big hint that the boot is way too big.

These boots are for people who need width and volume. They might be completely wrong for your foot, if you just read a few reviews and decided to buy them. Racing boots typically run narrow, if you just needed a normal width, then this particular boot will probably never fit right, in any size.

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Unusual_Oil_4632•

Where were your blisters located at in your previous boots? In a ski boot your feet should be locked down. They really shouldn’t move at all except a little space for your toes when you are engaging the boot. Should make it difficult to get blisters. If you are having to do all of what you are saying to get a snug fit with your new boots and haven’t even skied in them yet they are surely to big.

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Robbiesrk•

Yep. If you had blisters in your old boots that are a size down from what you have now you should either down size or drop the last of the boot. Blisters equal movement which equals a boot too big

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-Seldon-•

The boot may be the right size, but have too much volume.

I have a low volume foot. The length of my boots is fine, but it always feels like I have to crank the buckles down to get the control I want.

Have a boot fitter check, but you may only need to add a insole riser under your liner.

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Closet-PowPow•

The buckles on the Hawx are moveable, so if you’ve already shifted them and you’re still on max tightness then get a new/smaller boot or invest in a intuition liner or similar that can take up lots of volume. The stock liner will pack out and make it looser over time.

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theskiadvisors•

This is such bad advice. Let's break down the post more accurately and try to help OP...

🚩the new Hawx are too big at 28.5

  • Stop. Go immediately to a bootfitter

🚩with the half size insert and thick socks I'm able to keep my heel from swimming in the boot

  • NOOOOOOO!!! This is not a solution to any boot problems

🚩Should I see about getting a 27.5 Hawx instead

  • Fuck yes you should

🚩or will I be ok with just a very tightened boot?

  • Nope

🚩Do the Hawx Magna tend to expand a bit with use?

  • OP, your liners with be decimated in 10-20 ski days the way you want to treat them
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ll_ninetoe_llA-Basin•

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