Republican no more. I am happy and honored to be joining your ranks.
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p.twimg.comPosted Aug 25, 2012, 10:58 PM UTC
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Anarcho-capitalism is the same thing as libertarianism.
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Anarcho-capitalism is Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion. Libertarians are minarchists. Ancaps are anarchists.
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Anarcho-capitalism is Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion.
Ergo, anarcho-capitalism is the same thing as libertarianism.
Libertarians are minarchists.
Such "libertarians" simply haven't taken the core principles to the limit yet. Minarchism still contravenes the principles of libertarianism.
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Libertarianism is an umbrella term /convo-branch
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Anarcho-Socialists are Libertarians but (correctly) reject Capitalism, so how do AnCaps represent the ultimate expression of Libertarianism?
Read some more before misleading new recruits.
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The fact that it rejects collectivism means it's not the end-all of Libertarianism, it's the end-all of Right-Libertarianism.
This sub is crammed to the gills with RLibs, so I can see where you'd get that impression, but it's false.
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There are only right libs. Left libertarianism is invalid.
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I used big-L Libertarianism as opposed to little-l libertarianism. I wanted to differentiate between the right-Libertarians and the general libertarian concept/movement.
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All AnCaps are Libertarians but not all Libertarians are AnCaps. Minachists are Libertarian, but not AnCap. LibSocs are Libertarian but not AnCap. The list goes on.
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Minachists are Libertarian
No. Minarchists are statists; they are not libertarian, as minarchism contravenes libertarian principles.
LibSocs are Libertarian but not AnCap.
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Quoting reddit's own neocon-vert subreddit doesn't make you right, it makes you part of a crowd that's polluting the ideological pool of Libertarianism.
Do some reading. Learn what you say you stand for.
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Thank you.
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Anytime.
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This guy is right ^ I was like you once OP, now I'm with this guy
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I've been a Republican ever since I turned 18 (now 31). However, it was Dr. Paul who got me excited about politics. I currently have my own copy of the Constitution I read regularly because of his influence on me.
I have now realized that the Republican party has moved so far away from what I believe is right for this nation. Additionally, the attempts to disenfranchise Paul delegates by the RNC and Romney during this election cycle did it for me. I can no longer support them and I'm out.
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I did the exact same thing this year...Like many libertarians, I was registered republican out of convenience since Ronald Regan, but this summer I registered as libertarian after voting for Ron Paul in the primary.
I live in a CLOSED PRIMARY STATE, so I basically will never vote in another primary again, but screw it. I don't even want the republican party to even be able to count me in their statistics.
I am never going to register republican, I am done with them for the rest of my life.
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You said it, brother... the Republicrats can kiss my ass.
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I hear you. My state is actually now an open primary state except for the office of president, but I don't care.
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Don't put your name online mate.
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As a person who works with the title "Network Security Administrator," I promise you that there are many, many other more clever and just-as-easy ways at figuring out people's identities online.
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Agreed. Spokeo anyone?
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WE GOT MICHAEL JORDAN!
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Welcome to the terrorist watch list
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Seriously? Just because you want to be free you're considered a terrorist? If that's true, this country is more fucked up than I thought.
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It's a joke. Sort of..
We're watching you.
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Well, most of us try to laugh about it either way because it's better than feeling paranoid.
I told a couple of my friends about how the government feels about me. Their response: "Well, yeah, you guys don't like the government, right?" I was stunned for a few...
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Yep. Just have to laugh about it. They'll learn soon enough that their government hates the.
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Well, considering that the government warns that people who collect cans and gold are potential terrorist candidates...
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Isn't it ironic how a "republican" made a lot of us Libertarians?
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Nice name dude... Especially the taggart part!
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Was going to say, 'are you Dagny's grandson' or something.
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The child of michael jordan and dagny taggart
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As a former mostly democrat with Moderate leanings, I joined the ranks a little while ago when I registered to vote as a Libertarian here in Alaska. Welcome! [edit: Welcome!]
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I've been a non-partisan voter in AK since I registered 3 years ago :/
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Ignorant Brit here; why must you state your party allegiance when registering to vote? Is it optional? Seems odd when the actual ballot is secret.
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It varies by state but those with "closed primaries" only allow you to vote for one of the candidates in your party. In the following "general election" you can vote for a candidate of any party. I'm not sure of the reason for closed primaries. I recall reading something on the California Secretary of State website stating that this had to do with the right of free association. Perhaps it also prevents people from outside your party trying to tamper with your party's lead candidate. For example, you could put up a dumby candidate for the opposing party and then vote for that candidate. Or simply just vote for the biggest douche candidate in their party - e.g. the Democrats could have had a group of their voters vote for that whackjob Santorum so that the GOP would have an even shittier candidate than they do now.
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Way to go! And welcome to the ranks of Americans that stand on logic and personal freedoms as the only realistic way to drive this country towards progress.
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Congratulations! Liberating feeling, isn't it?
Did you change your name to Taggart, or is it just a happy coincidence?
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Thanks!
Nope, my name has been Taggart since the day I was born.
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"Race"? WHY?!
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and why is political party on a voter registration??
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Primaries
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Congrats! I did the very same thing today!
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It's an honor to have you!
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I'm 18 this year and I'll be voting in my first election in November. I live in Michigan and I am a registered republican.
Firstly, I'm not sure if Michigan is a closed or open primary state because there is a lot of misinformation when I Google it.
If it is a closed primary state, does that mean I can ONLY vote for libertarian candidates? Because Justin Amash is a registered republican and I'd like to be able to keep voting for him.
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You can vote for whoever you want in a regular election, but if you want to vote in Republican primaries, then you'll have to remain a Republican. Voting laws are more complex than open vs. closed primaries, but they're still pretty simple, so when you have an hour of free time, you should research the rules about party primaries in your state. Don't worry, if nothing else, you can freak out your liberal friends by telling them you're a registered Republican. :-P
And I'm 20! I feel like a loser but I'm honestly excited there's going to be someone on the ballot I'll feel good about voting for in my first presidential election.
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I don't encourage registering Libertarian unless you a) live in an open primary state, or b) plan on getting involved in Libertarian Party politics by working for the Party or running as a candidate. Otherwise, there's really no benefit to registering third party. You can always vote third party in a regular election, but you lose out on the chance to vote in primaries like we did this year for Ron Paul. It's something to think about, in the future, strategy-wise.
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Yes, I've considered that but we would really send a message to the GOP that we've had enough if a sizeable number of us re-registered as Libertarians. We can always reregister back to GOP. I'm willing to do this even though it's a giant PITA for me as I don't live in the US anymore.
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Voting in the primaries is as effective as voting in the general election: the candidate that wins is chosen by billionaires' campaign contributions, not by principaled voting.
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They're both mean as much as your party regisration does.
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So why not register LP - exactly my point.
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Because registering LP over Republican doesn't carry any benefits unless you're involved actively in the party.
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Yes Sir!
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i live in florida and i cant register as libertarian
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WTF? Why not?
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i googled it. i still dont know the reason. but i know most states dont allow it
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I just did a quick search and found this online registration form, clicked on FL and you can select Libertarian from a dropdown box. https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/e4/nvra/?language=en&action=form&state=FL Are you a troll trying to spread misinformation?
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when i registered to vote i was asked republican/democrat or independent. can someone else come in for a third opinion? dont some states do this?
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Libertarian party! Fastest growing party in the US!
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Good stuff.
Neither the Democans or Republicrats truly stand on consistent principles anymore; they're both just loose alliances of diverse, contradictory interest groups.
Libertarians might not have a perfect approach, but we're really trying our best to be consistent and honor our principles.
In what way don't we have the perfect approach?
The perfect political approach would result in tangible electoral victories which are in short supply.
The idea that any one ideology is perfect is the worst approach possible. That kind of thinking is what poisons any chance of reasonable solutions.
There is no one ideology that can solve every issue. Jumping from thinking only the republicans have the answers, to thinking only libertarians have the answers, is just more of the same close-minded crap that prevents positive progress for humanity.
Don't get me wrong; the fundamental principles that are the foundation of libertarianism are definitely a logically and morally sound place to start - but human life and civilization will always offer challenging scenarios which will demand and force compromise of any political ideology.
Until I find any problems with libertarianism, I am going to embrace it fully. I see no problems in the philosophies of liberty. Until tried and failed, libertarianism will be what I work towards.
The problem with libertarianism is balancing our rugged since of individualism and disdain for central government, with putting together the organized society that we need to function and grow. Im high as balls right now, so i dont know if that actually makes any sense.
That's all good, I really don't find any major flaws within libertarian philosophy, either - I'm just saying that no one political ideology will ever be truly perfect, nor can it create the "perfect world" for everyone.
Oh, strategies and tactics change, and so forth. There are a whole variety of different positions different Libertarians take on a variety of issues, but the core principles are generally the same.
I'm just saying we're not the Superman of politics or anything like that. But that our approach and beliefs are still the safest and truest approach.
I agree both with you and with how I put it myself. The points are different but both true.
Agreed, and for the record I was attempting to agree but make a tangental point.