Greer still is the worst recent offender in my book but the new meta certainly is a painful reminder of how badly this can be screwed up. By contrast Jessica Hammerhart demonstrates that almost everything they got wrong with the new meta in this regard was already solved and done well.
So, in the new meta the damage log states I got hit twice for 20k damage each by something called "Ubaldesca (sp?) Craters". In full celestial gear. While all Avatars were engaged so no "oh you failed the mechanic, everyone dies" excuse. FORTY THOUSAND DAMAGE!
I have no idea what that attack is. A sneaking suspicion it might be the line+circle chain slam, but between random aegis from allies and not