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tip871
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Disclaimer: Maybe you should consider a medical examination before or after the withdrawal. Even if the probability is low, other health problems cannot be completely ruled out. We recently had the case that someone had colon cancer but didn't visit his doctor.
A general (not Kratom specific) explanation of the "pink cloud syndrome".
Pink clouding usually begins after withdrawal symptoms have subsided or been managed with medication. However, everyone is different and not everyone in recovery goes through this phase, It can come from a relief from the physical pain, fatigue and illness associated with ongoing use and withdrawal. For many, a few weeks or months is the longest they have gone without active use. While this period of sobriety marks excellent progress, it doesn’t mean a person is cured of their addiction. Signs of pink cloud syndrome include a marked increase in overall positivity about recovery or life in general. People who are pink
We now have a "rating" system like a classic forum, made possible by a new feature of reddit.
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..to make finding new moderators and moderating easier.
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..to create a more personal atmosphere.
The ratings:
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No rating: People who only wrote one comment and never posted a post on qk.
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Fresh account : 0 - 20 qk karma.
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New quitter: 0 - 20 qk karma.
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Known quitter: 2 - 49 qk karma.
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Supporter: 50 - 499 qk karma.
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Insider: 500 - 999 qk karma.
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Vip: 1000 - 3000 qk karma.
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Elite: 3001 - 30000 qk karma.
If you want to show your quit date, you can create a signature and include it at the bottom of your posts, for example:
❤ quit 1/1/23
Simple question: If I only want to change the text of a user flair and not its background color, can I simply do it like this ?
set_flair:
text: "New text"
I.e. without specifying a template_id?
Kratom may surprisingly stop working after a long break. (Maybe it needs to build up slowly in the body first). In that case you should not increase your doses. Someone of this sub tried to relapse after beeing 10 months sober, but it didn't give him any relief. He increased his dose and all that happened was he got a seizure. I had a similar experience. I tried to relapse, I had even doubled my normal doses at the second day of my relapse and it still was only just like a placebo at this point. That was even the reason why I quit Kratom..
"our laboratory have shown that many kratom products being sold in the United States are contaminated with potentially hazardous levels of lead (Pb)"
- No withdrawal symptoms
Withdrawal symptoms are only caused by the development of an appropriate tolerance and that generally happens VERY slowly, with any type of "normal" opioids too btw.
- Delayed onset of withdrawal symptoms
Although this is probably not very common, this possibility exists. I had eg a forum buddy whose withdrawl symptoms always only kicked in after 7 days of no Kratom use. Maybe because of the "inadequate P450 metabolic activity in 8-10% and the reduced metabolic activity in 12 to 15% of people", or if you are using medications that affect P450.
- Mania after the withdrawal
This has also been reported regularly. The reasons for this are unclear: https://old.r
Since this question is asked again and again, here are a few links to such posts:
Why did you quit kratom ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/9edhvl/inspiration_why_are_you_quitting_kratom/
https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/6eobqb/why_are_you_quitting/
https://old.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/x1vfxb/why_did_you_quit_kratom/
https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/3cksqj/why_are_you_quitting_i_want_try_kratom/
Info from a dutch kratom vendor:
"I found the S&V to be slightly less potent, about 25% more material was required to gain the same intensity as leaf. The experience itself however was clearly different. In general, when compared to leaf, the effect for me (and mind you its subjective) is more sedating and analgesic. Although the typical contrasting effect of simultaneous sedation and stimulation is still clearly present. What is remarkable is, it took considerately longer before effects were noticed and these effects lasted much longer compared to leaf. Possibly the coarseness of the S&V could slow down the uptake. I decided to grind some of the material into a fine dust. Upon grin
DXM is mainly metabolized by two cytochrome P450 enzymes: CYP2D6 and CYP3A4. Kratom has a strong inhibitory effect on both these enzymes. This means that kratom can lead to an increased presence of DXM and its metabolites within the body. In addition, differences in metabolic capability can vary greatly in individuals. in 8%-10% of people with white European descent, inadequate cytochrome P450 metabolic activity (CYP 2D6) can lead to cumulative toxic levels when large therapeutic doses are used. 12 to 15% have a reduced metabolic activity.
Loperamide combined with kratom has serious health risks at higher doses (in particular serious heart problems or death). At recommended doses, the half-life of loperamide is approximately 10 hours. However, with higher doses, even as little as 16 mg, longer half-lives have been observed (upwards of 41 hours) !
Don't use Phenibut for the withdrawal and do not recommend it. In the past quite a few people from qk became addicted to phenibut (despite warnings) and ended up having 2 dependencies: phenibut and kratom.
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Phenibut can cause RAPID dependence
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"Even taking phenibut for couple days straight can cause dependence and withdrawal symptoms upon discontinuation. Dependence is not fun even if it's managed properly. If it's not managed properly withdrawal symptoms can be severe and dangerous.If you have a significant phenibut dependence (usually from 3+ consecutive days of use) you may experience severe withdrawal symptoms, Read more at https://old.reddit.com/r/phenibut/wiki/phenibut-important-
Many people ask us if it is possible to switch from daily use to once in a week.
So what are people experiencing, who are starting to use Kratom once (or twice) a week (which is already too frequently to avoid any trouble) ?:
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Tolerance formation: Over the time your tolerance increases. You need to increase your dose.
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The pauses between consumption seem like always getting longer and grayer over a long period of time, until you can barely stand it anymore at the end.
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At that point, you have to decide whether you want to use Kratom daily or if you pull the ripcord. Most people then opt for the daily consumption variant, because a reduction of quantity and frequency is hardly to im