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ChickinSammich

Alignment Survey - Results

Data Analysis of Player Alignment Preference

Preface and Sample Size

What started out as a brief thought I had regarding player alignment preference ended up as a survey. I anticipated I'd get about 80-90 responses in a week, and ended up with 1,001 in less than 24 hours. Turns out, Survey Monkey will only show the first 100 responses to a free account, so I had to fork out $24 to get the rest of the results (up to 1,000). I wish I could have left it open longer, but anything after 1,000 costs me $0.15 per person so I had to cut it off there. I apologize to anyone who didn't get to answer the survey in time; it's not that I don't value your input, I just didn't want a huge credit card bill. :) I'd like to take the time to thank everyone who answered the survey. I personally posted this survey to r/DnD, r/Pathfinder_RPG, and r/RPG, as well as Facebook. I'm not sure if anyone sent it out to anyone else, but if you did, thanks!

(Sidenote – I was told that Google Docs will let you conduct large surveys/polls for free. I'll keep this in mind in the future, I didn't want to start over on Google Docs and risk ignoring the data of those who had already responded)

Expectations of Data/Perceived Sampler Bias

My belief going into this was that I expected Chaotic Neutral to be the most popular alignment, followed perhaps by True Neutral and Neutral Good. I expected that all three Evil alignments would most likely be the bottom 3 results, since most DMs shy away from allowing evil PCs, for various reasons.

Results in comments

Question 1 and 2

Question 3

Question 4 and closing remarks

(Author's note - If you see broken/misdirected links, typos/mistakes(excluding [sic] in Question 3), or other errors, please let me know and I'll correct them.)

Posted May 17, 2013, 10:30 PM UTC · edited

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

Question 1: Which of these alignments have you played as in the past? (Multiple selections allowed)

Q1

Chaotic Good		69.53%	 696
Neutral Good		68.33%	 684
Chaotic Neutral     57.54%	 576
Lawful Good	        57.14%	 572
True Neutral		57.04%	 571
Lawful Neutral	    43.46%	 435
Lawful Evil	    	28.97%	 290
Neutral Evil		26.57%	 266
Chaotic Evil		20.98%	 210

As expected, all three Evil alignments are in the bottom 3. Interestingly, Chaotic Evil is the least played, while Chaotic Good is the most played. It seems like even when someone is a “bad guy”, they still prefer to keep a bit of planning about them. Rules don't matter when you're helping others, but they're important when you're out for yourself. Seems like this would be ripe for a joke about politics and society as a whole :)

Question 2: Which alignment is your PREFERRED alignment to play as? (Pick one)

Q2

Chaotic Good		24.98% 	250
Neutral Good		23.88%	239
Chaotic Neutral 	16.38% 	164
True Neutral		 9.49% 	 95
Lawful Neutral	     7.69%	 77
Lawful Good	   		 6.99%	 70
Lawful Evil			 5.00%	 50
Neutral Evil		 3.90% 	 39
Chaotic Evil		 1.70% 	 17

Here's the biggest question, and the results show that most people tend toward the upper right three blocks of the alignment spectrum, CG, NG, and CN. There's a pretty steep dropoff after that, with Lawful Good being the least popular non-evil alignment. A lot of responses in question 3 seem to indicate a heavy bias against Lawful Good, with many people feel the morality is too extreme and it ties their hands. These same reasons are given in favor of the choices of CG, NG, and CN. Most CG/NG players want to be “Good guys” without being “Lawful Stupid”, and CN is the go-to alignment of people who want what they feel is the alignment that gives them the most freedom. Many others go to True Neutral for the same reason. Of the 210 people who have ever played Chaotic Evil, only 17 of them have actually picked it as their favorite. It seems like once you go CE, you decide it's a bad idea.

Of course, these results are skewed by the fact that many players never play Evil characters. So I filtered the results to ONLY display people who have played at least one Evil alignment.

The first thing that surprised me is that 483/1001 respondents say they've played an Evil character at least once. I expected this number to be around 30-35%, not 48%.

So once you go Evil, do you go back?

Q2A

Chaotic Good		20.70%	100
Neutral Good		19.67% 	 95
Chaotic Neutral		15.53%	 75
Lawful Evil			10.14% 	 49
True Neutral		 9.73% 	 47
Lawful Neutral	     8.90% 	 43
Neutral Evil		 7.66% 	 37
Lawful Good			 4.14%	 20
Chaotic Evil		 3.52% 	 17

CG/NG/CN remain the most popular choices among players who have tried an Evil character, with Lawful Evil being the most popular Evil alignment. Semi-unsurprisingly, among players who have tried Evil characters, they don't seem to want to be Lawful Good.

So let's do this in reverse. Let's take a look at the people who decided they DID want to be Evil. Filtering Q2 by only players who have preference of LE/NE/CE:

Q2B

106/1001, or 10% of respondents said they prefer Evil

Lawful Evil			47.17% 	50
Neutral Evil		36.79% 	39
Chaotic Evil		16.04% 	17

Q1B

Lawful Evil			71.70% 	76
Neutral Evil		55.66% 	59
Neutral Good		55.66% 	59
Lawful Good			53.77% 	57
True Neutral		53.77% 	57
Chaotic Good		53.77% 	57
Lawful Neutral	    38.68% 	41
Chaotic Neutral		47.17% 	50
Chaotic Evil		37.74% 	40

Of those who prefer Evil, it seems as though they've tried a good bit of everything. 7/106 respondents said they've played every alignment at least once (in question 4) and 17/106 said they're not interested in trying any other alignments.

With all this talk of Evil characters, what about Good ones?

Q2C

559/1001 respondents indicated a preference towards Good characters. Of those people:

Chaotic Good		44.72% 	250
Neutral Good		42.75% 	239
Lawful Good			12.52% 	 70

It seems there's still a stigma against Lawful Good. Of the people who picked either CG or NG as their favorite alignment, 60.33% (295/489) of them have said they've given LG a try, and 15.34% (75/489) say they haven't, but they'd be interested in it.

Have they given other alignments a chance? Is Good all they know?

Q1C

Chaotic Good		77.64% 	434
Neutral Good		77.46% 	433
Lawful Good			64.94% 	363
True Neutral		51.70% 	289
Chaotic Neutral		49.02% 	274
Lawful Neutral	    40.07% 	224
Lawful Evil			22.90% 	128
Neutral Evil		19.32% 	108
Chaotic Evil		16.64% 	 93

For about half, they've tried at least one Neutral alignment. Less than 1 in 4 have tried an Evil.

I know I haven't introduced Question 4 formally yet, but I found these results to be interesting:

Q4C

(Are there any alignments which would interest you, that you have not previously played as?)

Lawful Evil			43.47%	243
Neutral Evil		21.65%	121
Chaotic Evil		20.75%	116
Lawful Neutral		20.57%	115
True Neutral		20.21%	113
Not interested 		14.49%	 81
Chaotic Neutral		14.49%	 81
Lawful Good			13.60%	 76
Chaotic Good		10.55%	 59
Neutral Good		 6.44% 	 36
Every alignment		 6.26% 	 35

A very large amount of people indicate an interest in wanting to play an Evil character. In fact, when I filter out the results of people who chose “Every Alignment” or “Not interested in other alignments”, 54.48% express interest in LE, 27.13% NE, 26.01% CE.

You hear that, DMs? Your Paladins secretly want to take over the world.

And finally, what would drive a man to be Neutral?

Q2D

336/1001 people indicated their terrible, dark propensities for the vice of Neutrality.

Chaotic Neutral		48.81% 	164
True Neutral		28.27% 	 95
Lawful Neutral		22.92% 	 77

Among the Neutralites, about half of them go for “the freedom alignment” of CN, with the rest falling into TN and LN respectively.

Q1D

Chaotic Neutral		75.00% 	252
True Neutral		66.96% 	225
Chaotic Good		61.01% 	205
Neutral Good		57.14% 	192
Lawful Neutral		50.60% 	170
Lawful Good			45.24% 	152
Neutral Evil		29.46% 	 99
Lawful Evil			25.60% 	 86
Chaotic Evil		22.92% 	 77

Most (more than half of) players who prefer middle alignments have tried Good alignments, with the same skew towards the upper right of the alignment matrix, as seen before.

Of those who picked Chaotic Neutral as their go-to alignment, it seems that 68.29% (112/164) of them have tried Chaotic Good as well.

Data inconsistency sidenote: Of the 164 people who said Chaotic Neutral was their preferred alignment , only 159/164 (96.95%) of them have said they've played CN in the past. Scratching my head at that one, but those CN types will do what they want.

More fun data inconsistency: So that it doesn't seem like the CN people are the only crazy ones:

97.14% of people who selected LG as their preferred alignment have indicated that they've played LG before.

Likewise for 98.70% of LN people, 98% of LE people, 94.98% of NG people, 94.74% of TN people, 87.18% of NE people, 99.20% of CG people, and 100% of CE people.

So thank you to the 17 CE murder hobos who were the only group to actually play the group they prefer to play. :) CG was pretty close.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

Question 4: Are there any alignments which would interest you, that you have not previously played as?

Q4E

Lawful Evil			39.76% 	398
Chaotic Evil		24.58% 	246
Neutral Evil		22.98% 	230
True Neutral		18.08% 	181
Lawful Neutral		17.38% 	174
Lawful Good			16.08% 	161
Chaotic Good		14.29% 	143
Chaotic Neutral		12.59% 	126
Not interested		13.19% 	132
Neutral Good		 7.89% 	 79
Every alignment		 6.19% 	 62		

Unsurprisingly, the top three answers are all “Evil”. 6.19% of people indicated they have played every alignment at least once.

More data anomalies: Of the 62 people who have stated “I've played every alignment at least once”:

Q1E

  • Four people didn't select all 9 choices for Q1 (you're fucking up the data!)
  • One person only selected “Neutral Good” for Q1, while still selecting “I have played every alignment at least once” for Q4. (I don't think you understood the question)
  • One person picked all 9 alignments in Q1, and also indicated in Q4 that he would like to try LE and TN, in addition to having played every alignment at least once (You people are confusing)

Of the people who picked “I have played every alignment at least once” (62 people in total, with a possible margin of error of 4)

Q2E

Neutral Good		29.03%	18
Chaotic Good		22.58% 	14
Chaotic Neutral		12.90% 	 8
Lawful Neutral		12.90% 	 8
Lawful Evil			 6.45% 	 4
True Neutral		 6.45% 	 4
Lawful Good			 4.84% 	 3
Neutral Evil		 4.84% 	 3
Chaotic Evil		 0.00% 	 0

After playing everything, they seem to prefer to go back to NG and CG primarily. No one went back to CE.

Even more data anomalies: Of the 132 people who stated they are not interested in trying any more alignments, Five people indicated an interest in trying at least one other alignment.

Q4F

Interesting to note, only one person picked both “I have played every alignment at least once” AND “I'm not interested in trying any other alignments”. Technically A would kinda imply that B is moot, but it's interesting that one person picked both anyway.

So what's their favorite?

Q2F

Neutral Good		26.52%	35
Chaotic Good		24.24% 	32
Chaotic Neutral		11.36% 	15
Lawful Good			10.61% 	14
True Neutral		 8.33% 	11
Lawful Neutral		 6.06% 	 8
Lawful Evil			 4.55% 	 6
Chaotic Evil		 4.55% 	 6
Neutral Evil		 3.79% 	 5

The trend is maintained that people who are not interested in trying new alignments are pretty happy with NG and CG. CN not as high this time, it seems as though people who have settled on LG are also pretty happy as well.

More interesting data: Out of 70 people who picked LG as their preferred alignment, 14 said they were happy with LG and 34 said they want to try LE.

Another anomaly: It was at this point that I noticed that one person who picked LG as their preferred alignment indicated in question 1 that they had played LG before and in question 4 that they had not played LG before and would like to try it. I don't even.... what? On further inspection, people did this for several other alignments as well. People fucking up my data again. grumble

Some additional notes

  • The fastest completion time for this survey was 14 seconds. They checked all 9 boxes for Q1, they prefer Neutral Good, and left question 3 blank.
  • 132/1001 respondents completed the survey in 59 seconds or less.
  • Three people completed the survey in 1 hour or greater, with the highest completion time being 4:13:59. He or she has played every alignment and prefers CG (no answer given for Q3)

Final notes on data

There's plenty more analysis that could be done by cross referencing these answers. If you'd like to know some more information based on data filtering, let me know which filters you want and what data you want to see and I'll pop out some more pretty charts for you.

I've compiled the summary data (including all full responses to question 3) into a PDF. For those who wish to perform their own analytics, I have taken the raw data, stripped out IP addresses of respondents (SurveyMonkey stores your IP address when you fill out the survey, and I'm not going to share this information with anyone) and made it available as an XLS file (if you don't have Microsoft Excel, OpenOffice scalc is free).

Both of these files are zipped and available for download at http://www.filedropper.com/alignmentdata.

(Archival note – Filedropper will host a file for free, but if it has a contiguous 30 day period with no downloads, the file will be deleted. If you're reading this post in the future and you'd like access to the data, just send me a PM and I'll be happy to re-upload the zip file)

Closing remarks

Again, I'd like to thank everyone who took the time to answer this survey, and an extra special thanks to anyone taking the time to read my mini-dissertation. :)

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

Question 3: Is there any reason you lean towards playing the alignment you selected in Question 2?

Question 3 was an open response question, so it's hard to effectively chart the data. I'm going to cherry pick from the answers given, but I'll post the full results later.

I'm sorting Q3 responses based on how they answered Q2. So for each alignment that someone picked as their favorite, I'll list some reasons why people chose that answer. Answers in quotes are taken verbatim and [sic] should be assumed for any spelling or grammatical errors. Anything in parenthesis is my observations.

One overall trend is that a lot of these alignments had a large amount of people who felt that “This alignment is the closest to what I am in real life”, so if you play something because that's what you know, you're not alone.

Lawful Good:

  • “I like the feeling of power and authority as you lay down the law on some evil bad guy “
  • (Another trend was paladins; lots of people picking LG because of the class)
  • “I feel like Lawful Good is underrated, and played poorly by some.” and “Because too many people play it as "lawful stupid" “ and “I feel that people tend to underestimate the lawful good archetype, and overlook the interesting dilemmas and implications of the worldviews it contains in favor of just laughing at Superman/Knight Templar/Lawful Stupid strawmen. In addition, it is the most comfortable roleplay for me, as it most closely reflects my own beliefs.” (An indication that some who play LG don't think others who play LG are doing it correctly)
  • “As much as everyone shits on Lawful Good PCs, I really enjoy playing divine characters that struggle with their alignment. For example: my last character was a half-elf cleric of Pelor, so he was expected to be lawful good all the time, but he was a pretty chaotic character and I loved role-playing the conflict between his faith and his emotions. Basically, Anakin Skywalker minus the whiny bitch factor. “

Neutral Good:

  • “Neutral Good allows a bit more options than lawful good! “ and “Keeps motivation aligned with most plots - some room to be creative, with limitation that further fuels creative problem solving. “Being good without being a total white knight. Can not really live without Order, but order can not exist without Chaos as such there needs to be a balance for the good of all. “ (The list goes on, but there's a LOT of preference toward Neutral Good as being “Good, without being constrained by Law”)
  • Shout out to “I ain't no evil motha'ucka “ and “Frickin' Han Solo. “
  • (Insightful) “Evil characters are hard to do right, and unless there is a lot of input from the DM even one evil character can be mayhem. Anything lawful, although not as strict bound as many would probably think, are still hard to play in terms of getting things done and I usually see Chaotic as "do anything you want as long as you can boil up a reason to do so." Neutral characters are very much guided by their stories and upbringing, and with a good, well planned out backstory they are easiest to roleplay. “
  • “I prefer characters that do good for good. I like playing the 'big damn hero' type, so I lean towards Good. And I find that Lawful or Chaotic are too 'restrictive' that their Law of Chaos counterparts can outweigh the Good sometimes... I prefer to play "Good". “ (It seems that some think CG can be just as restrictive as LG)
  • “Being a Good Guy generally tends to move the story along. My Chaotic Neutral was a rogue/scam artist and while it was fun to actively trick my party for personal gain it just wasn't as satisfying as being a good guy and moving the plot our DM worked on move along. “

Chaotic Good:

  • “Most of my team normally picks Chaotic Neutral so I have to be the one to stop them from leaning towards Chaotic Evil. “ (It's odd to think of a CG character as a party's moral compass.)
  • “Chaotic Good feels like the MOST good, you make decisions based on what you think is right, regardless of any law or other moral code. Kinda the "follow your heart" alignment to me. “
  • “I prefer to play good characters, but not "goodie two-shoes" - so basically I prefer anti-hero-type characters, or ones that specifically value freedom over law. “
  • “dnd is about heros doing heroic things. Other alignments would restrict heroic play “
  • (I'm confused) “America “
  • (Amusing) “I once played a C-G Halfling Brawler named Hans. He had mittens enchanted with Sonic energy and punched people a lot. He was the best halfling ever. “
  • (I'm really confused) “Ponies and Shit. “
  • “fucking baller as shit “(Well okay, then)

Lawful Neutral:

  • “In the name of the holy inquisition I require your best ale “ (Give this man a tankard!)
  • “I like characters with a moral code, usually loyalty to friends. I also often feel Chaotic Neutral is a cop-out. “
  • (It's interesting, I saw more people quote ethics and morality as a reason for picking LN than I did for NG or LG)
  • (Insightful) “I like a character with a past. Not everyone stays one alignment for their entire life, but it is rare to find someone who has gone from a cold blooded murderer to an accepted do-gooder. Neutral implies that complications have been a part of the character's development. “
  • (Poetic) “Swift as a coursing river, all the force of a great typhoon, all the strength of a raging fire, mysterious as the darkside of the moon. “

True Neutral:

  • “Normal people are true neutral, it's the easiest “ (I'm not sure I'd personally agree with this statement, but it's an interesting take)
  • “Because I can (mostly) ignore the alignment system. “
  • “I don't really pick the alignment if I can avoid it. I let the character pick it for me. And sometimes, my character wants to kill her teammates. Is that so bad? “ (I don't think wanting to kill your party qualifies as True Neutral...)
  • (Lots of people feel that TN offers the best potential for character growth and the most freedom to develop, since you're not constrained by any of the extremes.)

Chaotic Neutral:

  • “I believe Chaotic Neutral gives you the most freedom and leeway with any situation. Especially with a DM that is very by the books when it comes to Alignments. “
  • (Like TN, there was a lot of emphasis on “freedom” and “character growth” here. Also like TN, CN seems to be a favored alignment choice of people who “don't like the alignment system”)
  • “I often do things that aren't in the party's interests, nor in the truest sense of good (sacrificed a random old man's soul to save my love interest's; got in trouble, had to go to Hell and back to save it) because it's what I would naturally do in the situation, and comes the easiest on-the-fly. “ (That's just mean.)
  • “HULK SMASH “
  • “"Whatever, I'll do what I want." - Eric Cartman “ (Heh)
  • “"Why?" "Because, fuck you, that's why." “
  • “Some of my ideas, such as head collecting, heads of defeated foes, can be quite hard to get away with when good. “ (Can't argue with that.)

Lawful Evil:

  • “Manipulating people for your own ends is one of the most fun things in all role-playing. “
  • “I like playing someone cold, calculated, logical and principled, who would rather other people live than die, but when pressed, would kill as many as it took if truly necessary to serve his own interests as a means to an end. “
  • “I enjoy collaborating with the DM and becoming a personal archenemy for the other PCs to work against. “
  • “I prefer selfish characters who are willing to bend the rules to get what they want, but are not psychotic and obsessed with destroying the party. LE means you can play an evil character and not be a massive dickhead all the time. “

Neutral Evil:

  • “I can help myself to anything I want (i.e. gear that I cannot afford) without breaking character “
  • “Because living in the real world where I have to obey laws is boring. When I play DnD I want to do whatever I want. “ (Words to live by)
  • “Evil heroes are more interesting “ (Are they still “heroes” if they're Evil? That's a tough one.)

Chaotic Evil:

  • “Because CE can be more than randomMurderHobo and I like it with depth. “
  • “I have played mostly as a Half-Orc Barbarian in small parties. I am currently playing as a C.E. Drow Demonic apostle (cleric) and loving it. Slaying all the... everyone. “
  • “People always assume that CE means playing a murderhobo, but my most recent characters have been CE but was able to fit in quite well in a party of varying alignments without conflict. “
  • “Causes party complications. Leads to good RP. “ (I found this one interesting; lots of people said that they pick good alignments to intentionally AVOID party complications.)
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sosuhme•

Han Solo is not NG.

Han Solo ends up being CG but starts out as CN.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

That's my opinion as well, but two people mentioned him under NG, so I pointed it out.

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sosuhme•

This concerns me.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

This is the same data wherein someone who had only played Neutral Good had also played all alignments at least once, remember? :)

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HomoarchnusDM•

(poetic) "swift as a coarsing river, all the force of a great typhoon, all the strength of a raging fire, mysterious as the dark side of the moon

Betcha can't tell me what movie this is from ;P Oh, and am I the only one here who had to sing when I read this?

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MTUShyGuyEnchanter•

Nah, I sang right along Homoarchnus.

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HomoarchnusDM•

Upvote for you good sir!

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

I can not, sorry. I didn't recognize it.

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LightningNinja2•

Mulan: Make a man out of you. Link for the Lazy

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brothertaddeusMonk•

Lawful Neutral forever!

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MTUShyGuyEnchanter•

Huh.....Didn't think my comment would be in there! =D Telling ya though, I had stone cold logic in that soulswap!

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MTUShyGuyEnchanter•

Also, harsh on calling me mean =P

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

Just calling it like I see it :)

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MTUShyGuyEnchanter•

Fair enough. To be honest, there were about 20 hostages to pick from, and I took the time to go through and dissect my options by race, age, and gender, and it came to two elderly humans (they have short lifespans and breed like rabbits compared to other races; for the record, I was a catfolk with no particular points of racism), a man and a woman. I debated what both have to offer to society, and decided the old man had less to offer. I didn't muddle it with feelings or with depth, I simply used an old man's soul to restore that of a woman in her early 20s, believing she would have more to offer in the end.

It just so happened that the young woman was also my character's NPC love interest >.> It was that, or she loses her soul and becomes a lemure (A dip in the river Styx courtesy of a boss we sorta bypassed originally, which upset the DM and caused vengeance. Silly story, that.)

And hey, I went to Baator and back to save the old man's soul after the fact!

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OzotuhCleric•

(Insightful) “Evil characters are hard to do right, and unless there is a lot of input from the DM even one evil character can be mayhem. Anything lawful, although not as strict bound as many would probably think, are still hard to play in terms of getting things done and I usually see Chaotic as "do anything you want as long as you can boil up a reason to do so." Neutral characters are very much guided by their stories and upbringing, and with a good, well planned out backstory they are easiest to roleplay. “

Insightful...Me? Wha...

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DrakonFyre•

“I don't really pick the alignment if I can avoid it. I let the character pick it for me. And sometimes, my character wants to kill her teammates. Is that so bad? “ (I don't think wanting to kill your party qualifies as True Neutral...)

I see my quote made it. I'll explain, since it was brought to light. I start as True Neutral, and then from there let my character play out and see where s/he falls. Sometimes, the accompanying party is fun and a good fit, other times they need a steel toe to the teeth. Natrual growth of the character, is all.

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SlashgateDM•

(I'm confused) “America “

Let me clarify (not my response but I get it)

America is know for the 'FREEDOM' And a lot of Americans conceive themselves (maybe a little too much) as the do gooders in the world.

Hence America.

I'm European. I get the thought pattern. But I can't agree with it completely.

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CaptianRussiaBarbarian•

America - we'll free the shit out of you

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Desril•

And by "free" we mean "beat into submission" - Captain Obvious

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AmicronTransmuter•

Thank you for this, your analysis was insightful and readable.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

I really enjoyed doing it. This combines three of my favorite things: D&D, data, and an excuse to be long-winded. :)

I do wish I could have left the survey open longer (after a week, I could see this having 5000-6000 responses), but I couldn't afford it.

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RhysticStudy•

Wow no love for the LN. I would have expected it to fare a little better.

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DaGhost•

Lawful Neutral's represent, Monks for Life!

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

You know, it's interesting that you say that. Several people mentioned Paladin under LG, and Rogue under CG and CN. Several people mentioned Druid under TN, and not a single person mentioned "Monk" under LN at all.

I was surprised.

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haerik•

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I mentioned monk in my LN reasoning. Maybe I'm remembering wrong or my survey didn't go through. Either way, thanks for doing this, it's interesting to see!

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

Maybe you did. 600ish answers to Q3, it's certainly possible I missed one.

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DaGhost•

I would say the Monk is a really underused class or just maybe not liked. However for my money, the monk will always be my favorite class.

I didnt say monk in my reasoning for LN but I did say it caters my style, which is to play monks as often as possible. You can be a little evil, be a little good and all the time you maintain the laws of the fist.

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thetracker3DM•

Yeah, I think its just not liked... I played a 4e game, and the monk there was just way too... odd.

If he hit the enemy, he got like 5 extra attacks against the enemy, and he typically killed them... leaving the rest of us pretty much useless. But if he didn't hit them, it was just a normal miss, no penalty, nothing that offset his combo-potential. He just made the rest of us feel pretty useless...

(Don't even say "But you don't just punch someone once!" Because I can counter that with "But you don't just stab someone with your sword once!" so why don't I get 6 attacks against the same foe?)

Just my two coppers on the monk class. I feel like most people don't like having them around because they are kind of over powered.

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DaGhost•

But all strikers in the game 4E did boat loads of damage. He was like a striker controller mini hybrid but he wasn't any more op then any other striker.

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Vrathal•

Thank you very much for compiling / posting this! Question 3 seemed especially interesting. I always like seeing other peoples' reasons for why they do what they do.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

My only annoyance with the data is that I had no EASY way to cross reference Q2 with Q3, so the only way to tie alignment to Q3 answer was to manually filter the data by Q2 answer.

Around 500-600 of the respondents answered Q3, and the full response list is available (Link at the end of the Q4/final remarks post) if you want to peruse all of it.

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eulertheoiler•

What software were you using for your analysis? If it was Excel, there are much easier ways than manual filters.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

I was using the SurveyMonkey website.

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eulertheoiler•

Ohhh. Is there a way to export that data to Excel? The Countifs function there should have been able to handle the same sorts in only a few minutes.

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WittyUsername816Paladin•

Would there be a way to do one of these for classes or would that just be too broad a subject?

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

I don't see why not, although I could see it getting a bit unwieldy when you consider that there are not only several editions to cover, but several source materials as well. I figure that there are probably 40-50ish different classes, easy, just from official TSR and Wizards source material, not counting prestige classes or homebrew and online variants.

And that doesn't even factor in multiclassing.

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WittyUsername816Paladin•

Thought so. The way I'm thinking is limit it to basic classes, that is to say, no prestige classes or online stuff. It could be limited to whatever seems to be the most popular version of the game. There could be a few short answer type questions, like 'do you more frequently use custom classes, if so describe them.'

Another set of questions could be 'Do you multiclass' and 'If Q(number) was yes, fill in what classes you multiclass with' or something along those lines.

I'm just kind of making this up as I go, but yeah, whatever, if you can make it work, awesome, if not, oh well.

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ChickinSammichOPDM•

In retrospect, I wish I had asked about class so I could cross-reference with alignment.

I also wish I had asked about age and gender for demographic cross-referencing.

My fault for not doing it.

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RhysticStudy•

Oh man, if you had done that, 12 different people would have said paladin was their favorite class but that they didn't like playing LG.

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WittyUsername816Paladin•

Haha, I was actually thinking of suggesting an age poll as well, because it would be interesting to what kind of ages of people actually play DnD. Maybe we/you could make a larger poll on Google Docs that includes age, gender, class, and alignment. Then again, that might just be entirely too much to handle.

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ZanThraxCleric•

Basic classes alone are still going to need insanely long lists. 3.5 had at least 50 base classes (and that's without counting all sorts of variants separately), Patfinder's already getting close to 20, and god knows how many 4th has by now.

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Firebird4LifeRogue•

This is some impressive research and insight, thank you for this! Someone buy this man some Reddit Gold.

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ArcaneMonkeyDM•

Huh, much les CE than I expected

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kismethavok•

Didn't have a chance to respond to the survey, but figured i would put my 2 cents in. Personally I would probably be considered chaotic good in real life due to the fact that the laws do not matter to me, only whether I think what I am doing is right or wrong. I find it easiest for me to play any chaotic alignment (CE,CN,CG) and personally prefer CG. I find it very difficult to roleplay any lawful alignment, and somewhat less, but still difficult to play neutral. The exception to this would be true neutral, which i find to be the single most difficult alignment to play. I once played a true neutral bard for one session before having to make a new character, mostly due to the fact that the character never did anything, he was simply an observer, an archivist of sorts, he would follow the party around and record their adventures, only interfering when it would move the story along without affecting the story itself; The two things I did in the session were, opening a locked door to a cellar so that the party did not need to go find someone with the key, and talking the party into the castle so they could question a royal guard. Other than those two things I found no reason for my true neutral character to interfere.

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