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r/leagueoflegends•
RM00

Is it only me or is EU on much higher level than NA when it comes to...

Teamfights? NA has doublelift but when i watch both regions LCS i can't help but notice how much more refined and mechanically developed EU teams are as a whole.

Clutch flashes like genja over point blank arrow are executed by most of the players in many teamfights. So many great skillshots hit and amazing positioning with split second reactions by ALL of the players on both teams make for insane teamfights that i don't see in NA LCS (even tho i watch more games from NA than EU).

I mean holy shit in 1 teamfight ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae5lwjt5W6E&t=05m08s ) you see - Zed ulting gold card, dark passage saving someone from enemy base after he revives from GA, homeguard TP into the middle of teamfight, Hourglass on shen taunt, 2 finishing snipes from varus Q, 2 people of both teams surviving with less than 10% hp, both teams keeping proper positioning despite huge AOE clusterfuck that's going on.

Or the last teamfight in this video where 1 team perfectly kites the other and wins 5 vs 6 (zilean ult) without losing a member and that after the have been jumped on with nocturne ulti.

Well, all i wanna say is, EU teams have insane teamfighting skills, don't you think?

Posted Aug 18, 2013, 12:43 PM UTC

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[deleted]•

The skill is not higher but closer to each compared to NA at least that is what i can tell from watching both.

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RM00OP•

that's interesting i haven't thought of that, you may be right

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tzu3•

In Season 2 the difference was bigger there imo. EU had like CLG.EU who were known for amazing Teamfights. EG however is still not the worst team when it comes to this, but there are better teams atm.

Now EU and NA are close if it comes to the skills, even though i saw some amazing Teamfights in EU LCS (Lemondogs vs. ATN in Week 6 with insane micromanagment).

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Aztec-•

NA has 1 decent TF and that's link. NA's mids are the weakest out of every region. While that's EU's best lane(Alex, xPeke bjergsen, etc) The godlike lane of NA is bot lane while thats EU's weakest I find that pretty funny. Also doesn't help EU how Curse took undoubtedly their best support >:)

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tzu3•

With TF i wanted to say Teamfights in that case. :D

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lolDirtyMouth•

u do know eg and clg eu is the same team right?

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Shiragi (EU-W)•

Nah, well it might be but i wouldnt say that they are "really" better ..

EU tends to build heavy TF Comps .. like Ori, Zyra, Rumble, Amumu and Ez .. everyone of them has high AoE dmg and utility..

NA mostly builds some heavy dive or poke comps with some aggression in early game .. or safety in late game.

So .. i wouldn't say they have more skill in TF's they just build their comps to be good in a TF. :b

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Aztec-•

Heh I honestly think Cloud 9's teamfight is unparalleled to any other team in the west and I don't even really like them . Their focus is to insane and thats why they stomped every other NA team. They've came back from huge gold deficits because their team fighting and coordination are superior.

Although I think as a whole EU's team fighting is better but no one is better then cloud 9 at teamfighting (and objective control) in the west(imo).

And doublelift is good don't get me wrong but CLG is in a slump(like Dig :(.) I don't know why you mentioned him. The past couple of CLG games he kept getting caught out in teamfights.

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le_epic_•

No one cares if NA is better or vice versa.

When Worlds comes its better to compare against Korean and Chinese teams. :)

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Despicablee•

I hate to be that guy but I think cloud 9 has the most coordinated team fighting skills in NA and EU.

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Arcanyne•

It may be purely because in eu solo queue many languages are spoken and the only thin you can rely on consistently is your play so to do well you improve your mechanics whereas in na solo queue everybody speaks the same language so they can communicate more to achieve the same goal. Now apply that to professional play where all teams have good communication and you have a region with consistenty good mechanical play and communication vs a region with good mechanical play and communication.

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Jingoo[Jinngo v2] (EU-W)•

Lets wait and see until worlds

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hlonreddit•

Many of the examples in the OP were more like mechanical skills instead of teamfighting, such as blank Varus arrows, Zed ulting gold card, etc. Helping a teammate is considered teamfighting, such as an Ori shield on an ignited teammate who would have died otherwise.

Also it might just be the team comp of both regions, EU tends to pick press-r-to-win comps(Ori, Varus/MF/Ezreal, Zyra/Nami, etc.), where NA and even Asian teams now prefer the early-push/kills aka assassin/dive comps(Ahri/Zed/Syndra, Vayne/Caitlyn, Thresh/Blitzcrank, Eve/Lee). It's not really a problem of skill, just champion preference imo.

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lolDirtyMouth•

NA focuses on individual skill and strong ad carries.

Eu is very weak in the adc department that's why every teamfight is dominated by top and mid players and occasionally a good jungler.

The ad players in eu are stronger than korea, but weaker than na.

Eu is famous for having great mid laners. You can see why their teamfights reflect that.

I'm from NA, but if I had to guess NA is better because EU just derps around a lot.

Say what you want about genja's flash, but he's merely the best in a sea of bad ad players.

I'm pretty offended that you would note all of those "plays" when their entire meta revolves around teamfighting or splitpushing exclusively. The "plays" are just from them never fighting and then randomly all inning.

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[deleted]•

Yh ok, that's why EU has a higher average KDA for ADCs than NA...

And if you actually think that EU has better AD carries than Korea then you obviously don't watch OGN. ADC skill goes KR>EU>NA.

It's actually crazy how little you know about the game.

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lolDirtyMouth•

eu is trash

korea's ad playersare not the best.. you're fucking delusional

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[deleted]•

The fact that you called EU trash tells me all I need to know about you and your American elitist personality.

You obviously don't watch OGN if you think that the likes of Imp, Space, Score, Pray, Piglet, Zefa and Riris are worse than ADCs from other regions. Biggest idiot on the internet.

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lolDirtyMouth•

lol. shitty adc players in other regions.. not much to say

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Cerebz•

Just because they're pulling those things against people of their own region, doesn't mean it would work against the NA teams. I'm pretty sure Cloud 9 would sweep most of EU clean. (They're NA, even if only one team)

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SirBonk•

"NA has doublelift" pffhahaha did you not just watch how he lost clg 3 games in a row? he got caught 5 times in a row vs crs.

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MisterEek•

Yes he did play a few bad matches but that doesn't change the fact he is one of the best mechanical players in the world - if not the best.

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SirBonk•

Lol just because his team feeds him kills and cs every game and he can 1v2 as a fed vayne doesn't mean he's good. Zuna, Sneaky, Qtpie, and even COP are hilariously better than him when they're on a good day.

Stop throwing around the word "mechanics" when you don't know what it means.

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panthyren•

you should stop talking honestly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqj1Dr0GpY Honestly just be quiet cause you don't know shit about what you are talking about.

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SirBonk•

lol is this a joke? did you not just read what I said? and if you heard kobe even he aknowledged it was a whiff on sona's part, the flash was completely unnecessary. And supports don't matter much in a 1v2 vs a fed vayne. Your bronze is showing my friend.

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