Rejected again - what did I do wrong?

Today I held the door open for a girl. She wasn't even that hot, in her early 30s, short and kinda pudgy with cankles. She was holding her laptop and needed to use this door that only opens with an access card, and is notoriously difficult for girls to open because it needs a strong push. I was going to enter anyway but then I saw her and said (this is to the best of my recollection), "Ah-ha, you're in luck, I saved you". I opened the door, she comes in, sets down her laptop, I go next to her and say "Now where is my reward?" and extend my cheek towards her as if for her to kiss it. She says "Ahahaha, no, no, no." I give her a friendly pat on the back as I go sit down at my computer, and try to suppress the disappointment as I get to work. Rejected by a fucking post-wall. Why are women such cunts? What should I have done different?

Posted Oct 29, 2014, 8:23 PM UTC

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tepper22•

That's creepy as fuck.

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throwaway69696912OP•

How would you have made it not creepy? What's a non-creepy approach?

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tepper22•

Everything you did just stinks of desperation.

How would you have made it not creepy?

I wouldn't have asked for a kiss for holding a fucking door open, for one.

What's a non-creepy approach?

I just lost the ability to literally even. I think you need to lay off approaches for a while until you have started to understand the basics.

r/Im14AndIsThisAlpha

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AlphaAsFAQ8•

HAHAHA, I'm reading this post and remember that sub you set up and think, this should go in that sub that tepper set up.

OP, listen to this man. You are in the wrong here and he is giving you advice to right it.

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throwaway69696912OP•

What's a non-creepy approach?

No, seriously? I thought it was taking opportunities out of these little daily interactions and making them fun and light-hearted that got people success with girls. I'd like to hear how "an αlpha" would have handled it. Or approached the same girl in another context.

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tepper22•

taking opportunities out of these little daily interactions and making them fun and light-hearted that got people success with girls

Yeah. That doesn't include going full creeper. What rapport did you build? None. You held a door for a woman and went entirely too far. You made it sound like a university or workplace setting, and sexual harassment is her word against yours.

I'd like to hear how "an αlpha" would have handled it. Or approached the same girl in another context.

Based on your description, he probably wouldn't.

Seriously, get back to studying basics before you try anything else. It's obvious that you haven't internalized much of anything, and you're still in the anger phase:

Why are women such cunts?

Lurk more.

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oldredder1•

It's not fun and light-hearted. It's desperate like a guy who's never even seen a naked nipple or touched vagina other than the one which birthed him.

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oldredder1•

Not creepy: no asking for a reward, no asking for a kiss, no leaning in for a kiss for opening a door, no expectation of reciprocation of what you want, which she doesn't want, just because you did something for her that's really unimportant, and so on.

I don't even understand how you can NOT understand this.

I'm not even going to think of doing what you did unless the girl knows me & sees me put on the Rapist Glasses^TM before starting this act.

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aguy01•

If you did this as a joke without actually expecting anything it would be good game. This sounds like you're trolling though.

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throwaway69696912OP•

I didn't really expect anything, I just thought "hey, fuck it", but I was nonetheless disappointed by being rebuffed by a girl with cankles. I wanted to get something just for the ego boost.

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aguy01•

Don't practice serious game on girls you can't choose to never see again if you're starting out.

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oldredder1•

Given what I just read... I don't think he'll be practicing serious game any time soon.

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oldredder1•

Well that's not how it works. You have to have VALUE, like be hot looking, built well, sound eloquent, be dressed right, smell good. Opening fucking doors is what servants do. Servants aren't attractive.

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Thadangle•

that is cringe-worthy man

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maximumutility•

Why are women such cunts?

Because she didn't kiss you for opening a door? Good god, man.

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AFPJ6•

What should I have done different?

The last decade of your life. Get some help. Please don't let us see you on the news, shot dead after a rampage.

Approaches are decided by practice & your SMV - champions aren't made in the ring, they're recognized there.

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guymanthing•

This might have worked if you were both 17. Your move was ballsy but not really appropriate for this situation. You should have asked her name and sat down to talk and then hit on her.

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throwaway69696912OP•

We already know each other for about a year.

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guymanthing•

she's gotten to know you and she's not interested dude. Girls decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting you whether or not you're eligible bed material.

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oldredder1•

That's the slow, desperate ones too. The hot ones decide within 5 seconds or less.

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oldredder1•

throwaway69696912 : everything different.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Men don't get a kiss, hug, etc., for opening a door.

Much less ASK for it by brand name and ask for a 'reward'.

Fuuuuuck.

I know Fukushima's new, 2011, but I swear there's been nuclear dumping into the gene pool a long, long time. There's beta then there's creep-fuck.

You know you've crossed a line when people here are all shaking their heads.

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throwaway69696912OP•

That's funny. There were videos where I saw Tyler Durden and Mystery do something similar.

I think you're all projecting a bit here, I didn't do it as an exchange (durr open door = kiss), it was just to create a playful game to gauge her interest. If she would have liked me she would have played along.

Most of you sound like you should go back to /s/eddit, r/elationships, askhamsters or whereve they dish out the word "creep" every post.

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oldredder1•

No, there are not.

You are a creeper. You have no game. You truly are lost.

I feel stained just interacting with you and I'm a guy. I can only imagine how the women feel.

It's like your brain is designed to do the most creepy, nasty, anti-redpill anti-masculine act possible and then pretend like you can't tell the difference.

IF you truly can't tell the difference you're all kinds of fucked up ... or 10.

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throwaway69696912OP•

kek. Provide a benchmark for "masculline acts" then?

No, there are not.

Yes there are, or else I wouldn't have mentioned them. Are you going to redefine reality for me too, sport?

You are a creeper. You have no game. You truly are lost. I feel stained just interacting with you and I'm a guy.

You seem upset.

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oldredder1•

Everything posted everywhere in r/TheRedPill is that benchmark. Everyone's posting.

Yes, I'll re-define reality for you: you appear unable to handle facing it on your own.

No, I don't seem upset: you seem mentally unwell. I, like everyone else, notice this & point it out like smart people do & should.

You're a fuckup. Unsavable. You need a new friend. I suggest Rippy the Razor.

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[deleted]•

This is a troll post, no doubt. On the off-chance it isn't, getting a kiss on the cheek for opening a door for a stranger isn't normal.

"Why are women such cunts?" - She wasn't being a cunt for not kissing you on the cheek because you opened the door for her.

"What should I have done different?" - I can get you being helpful for opening a door for a small girl if you were passing by anyway, people like mature helpful guys. What you should've done different is not expect a reward for that.

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