Just reactivated my account and looking to copy a few talent specs until I get back into the groove of things. Previously I would look at the top 3v3 ladders and just go from there but I don't think its an option since the season is over.
Posted Aug 7, 2016, 11:44 PM UTC
The ladders are still up, with the ratings from the end of wod.
Play the beta. There's no reason to worry about cookie cutter specs at level 100 without your artifact or PvP talents.
Aside from play the beta, this is correct. The game isn't balanced around 100 anymore, anything you use now don't expect to go into 110 PvP with it or for it to be good then/ as it is now.
Without knowing honour talent and artifact synergy with talents, it's impossible to know what's good in Legion by playing live.
Worldofwargraphs.com is the site I use.
I generally check out www.arenamate.net which is just a easier version of wow armory with better filters. Compare EU/US players and go from there .
I referred OP to those sites for a refresher because the game has changed.
Copy and paste from Noxxic's talent build: "Below is the most common build amongst the top ranked Overall PvP players, based on internally collected statistics from leaderboard PvP players that is updated weekly. More information regarding this build and alternative talent options are coming soon as 7.0.3 statistics mature."
That's pretty much exactly what OP asked for.
Yes, 1 build might be good 90% of the time for you, while another completely different build is good for me.
Most talents are swappable. I could give you more examples but I'd be wasting my time.
Welcome back. Cookie cutter builds are for teh bads. There are a variety of play styles per class and talents choices are based on that.
Check noxxic or icy veins for a refresher, but designated pvp builds aren't really a thing anymore.
yes. They are.
Some talents in PvP are a mistakes while others outperform everything else. Please don't spread blatantly false information
Really? So what's the cookie cutter build for enhancement? Is Feral Lunge better than Wind Rush totem? Is Hailstorm better than Ancestral Swiftness? It's dependent on play style. Don't be ignorant, it's not a "blatantly false" statement.
You recommended Noxxic (notoriously out of date and horrible) and Icey-Veins, which is a PvE website.
You said there were no cookie cutter talent builds.
Feral: http://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/feral/M8FM
Which is objectively different from the PvE build as it doesn't take Savage Roar, which is a trap talent in PvP ( as are several others ).
A few of those talents can swap, based on playstyle and enemy comp, but for someone just getting into the game or trying to learn, this is where they start. IE cookie cutter.
You learn to make a cookie according to the recipe first, and then you can vary it up once you have learned.
Hell, for icing on the cake, your own recommended site (Noxxic) attempts to give cookie cutter builds. They don't even explain their logic or reasoning! Just "hey, get these."
To claim cookie cutter builds are not good, or that that is what bads do is blatantly false. They exist in the same manner they always have: they are correct for 90% of matches and have a little bit of variance that you can adjust once you have learned the meta and how the spec plays. It was the same when we had long talent trees, and it is the same now.
Read the talents and think about it. Give it 10min and you get your own style of choices which will easily suffice.
Game is kinda made to be changing around your talents though based on comp (not each class but most do you talents to switch around) - could use a site like skillcapped to find out (even if just the free forum)