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r/gwent•
Hyperz

[QoL] Suggestion: "smart milling" - take into consideration multiple art and premium cards.

For example, Reaver Hunter comes with 3 art variations. With the current milling system one can have up to 18 of these cards without being able to automatically mill them. 3 for each 3 art variations and another 9 for the premium counterparts. Ideally the system should take those cards into account and mill them in a smarter way such that you are left with only 3 unique variations, with premiums taking priority over non-premiums.

Posted Jun 1, 2017, 11:16 AM UTC

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2drunk4youScoia'tael•

While this sounds good at first, I have seen ppl using the same art three times (me included). Maybe just a filter option that shows every 3 art card for all factions/neutrals?

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suugakusha•

Just curious, but why do you use the same art? The three artworks actually go together to form a big picture, so I just thought everyone would want that.

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DatapunktMonsters•

I also prefer the same art on all my copies and I have two reasons for it:

  • It simplifies the mulligan or the card selection generally. For example on my smurf I play Queensguard and the art of the queensguard is somewhat similar to the art of the Shieldmaidens. So by having 3 different QG's and 3 different maidens your brain has to do extra work to distinguish those two cards. Very important if you use bran, Operator etc.

  • The second reason is that I used to play magic the gathering and in that game there are cards that show you your opponents hands. So let's say your opponent plays such a card and sees your hand, then you draw some cards including a second copy of the revealed card with a different art work. You keep on playing and forgot which artwork is known to your opponent so you might play the wrong one and your opponent then gains the information that you have a second of those cards in your hand. Also playing mismatching artworks and mismatching border colour is considered an insult to your opponent. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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XypteroMonsters•

Good reasons. I'm curious though - why is it considered insulting?

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DatapunktMonsters•

That's just a common joke. People find mismatching copies of a card "ugly". It's easier to picture if let's say some Gwent cards have 2 artworks, some have 5, others have 10 and also the design of the card is different (some have a white border, some have a black border etc). Then people would tend to play 1 artwork three times but the way it is how that certain cards have 3 different artworks that have a similar style it looks like they are intended to be combined.

Imagine you're playing a magic deck and those are your 4 copies of the same card:

copy 1 copy 2 copy 3 copy 4

Now it's easier to understand why mismatching artworks tend to be considered ugly in MTG. It's because different artists have created them with different styles and also the card design has changed over the years.

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for_today•

I believe it was an attempt at a joke

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2drunk4youScoia'tael•

a fan of symmetry, kinda. I am the kind of guy who will put his cards in a perfect degree to each other on the board in a physical tcg. Old habit.

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GeneralGlobus•

It's easier for memory and reflexes. It's easier to recognize the same card three times in a mulligan than three separate cards.

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Hakeem928Skellige•

I use the same artwork for my Queensguards because I use the Operator to get a fourth. Having four of the same artwork is a lot more satisfying than a 2/1/1 split that breaks the symmetry the tri-art is supposed to create.

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Alyz9•

One advantage of using the same artwork is you can't tell the cards apart in the graveyard. If a monster plays a griffin and moves one to his graveyard then plays another griffin there is a chance he'll move the first one back to yours. Kinda retarded how you can't tell the difference between peoples graveyards.

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xSl0t•

Because i'm too lazy to select 3 different arts.

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TheRealSeriousScoia'tael•

You can use the keyword "trio" in the filter search box, it will show most of the 3 card art units (the ones that actually have the trio ability)

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Ysurano•

I like that idea, but of course the player should be able to change the way "Mill all duplicates" works. Standard preference should be what currently is the case and players should be able to change it to "Also mill standards, if I own the premium counterpart" and/or "Also mill duplicates, if I already have 3 of the same card with other artwork".

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Mr_ClovisScoia'tael•

They should also reduce the drop rate for those cards in kegs so that we don't get them 3x as often as other cards, as seems to be the case at the moment.

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Big_TeddyNorthern Realms•

That is the only real Issue with them. everything else is just a matter of convenience tbh.

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nerevar91Nilfgaard•

Dunno why they downvote you... It's like some people don't want the common good.

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Bonadeo•

I would like if i can set the max number of cards i want for each card so it mills the rest with the button. For example i dont think i would need 3 adrenaline rushes or maerdromes, maybe 2 at most. You set the different art to the number you want of em and you are done.

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EulogyiNilfgaard•

You should take into account that there are players like me, that prefer clarity when looking over the board and pick a single artwork of a card instead of the triple set.

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JaspadorNilfgaard•

Perhaps even players who have an old and slow pc and don't use premiums.

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HyperzOPNorthern Realms•

Rendering premiums should be an option in graphics settings. After all you can't control the cards your opponent uses.

And yeah the best way to deal with > 3 dupes is give the player a choice in "milling strategy" or something when pressing the button.

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Ellianar•

I think they should give us a settings in the option for the mill spare card strategy :

-Mill normal card if I have premium

-Always keep each 3 arts on a card with multiple art

This way with both options active the game would always mill everything but the premium version of a trio of card except if you don't have the premium for one art then it would keep only one copie of the normal art.

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sbrevolution5Skellige•

Not to mention when opening packs it won't tell you this sort of thing

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nerevar91Nilfgaard•

Already here btw https://www.reddit.com/r/gwent/comments/6elj8i/can_you_add_an_option_for_cards_that_have/ . I love how you must post something specific hours in order to not get buried.

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zerkmain•

the best thing they could add to milling is SHOWING which cards are going to be milled. i hate checking in case one of the cards i like is getting milled (happened to me, i was planning to transmute a card but it got consumed, alzur's thunder or something like that it's called)

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ShacklefaceMonsters•

Milling only happens to bronze cards with more than 3, and silvers and golds with more than 1. I'm confused at how you lost a card that you intended to transmute.

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norax_d2•

Check by "new" the collection and mill them manually after opening kegs.

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zerkmain•

problem with the filter new strategy for milling is that every time i start the game, it tells me a shitton cards are new, even if i purposely unchecked them as new before, since i was doing it this way before closing client.

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norax_d2•

I don't have that problem since the OB release.

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aerilyn235Nilfgaard•

I don't think there is a need to automatically mill premiums given how rare they are, manually milling them is fine.

An option (toggle) of smart milling regular cards is interesting.

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ShinCoalNilfgaard•

Thats not what hes asking for, what he is asking for is that if for instance you have 3 normals and 1 premium bronze, that one of the normals will be milled, since you have four usable cards in total.

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