Marvel Studios Reportedly Trying to Reinstate James Gunn for 'Guardians of the Galaxy'
archive.li/WiozwPosted Aug 9, 2018, 7:40 PM UTC
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Can't find anyone else willing to step into the hot seat, eh?
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One of the actors is refusing to come back to his role if James isn't brought back to direct it.
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Which actor likes jokes about fucking children?
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Bautista. Which makes sense since hes not exactly a half decent actor so any new director would probably minimise or recast him anyway. Still, its disturbing that hes willing to throw away his only major role in defense of someone who is more than likely a child molester. (Using Gunns own logic)
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Interesting. I'm sure his past won't come back to haunt him, especial with regards to doxxing, firing and deplatforming other people through social media.
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Drax is overrated, as is Bautista. Fine, he can walk.
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TBF, Drax will have had all of his major pay-offs by that point.
I mean, what is his character supposed to do now that all of the people responsible for killing his family are dealt with?
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He doesn't mind kids fucking. He has a daughter who became pregnant at 15 years old.
I'm surprised nobody has brought how much of a shit head Batista was known to be in wrestling. Even in his own biography, he criticizes he brags about cheating on his wife while his wife stays home with cancer. He even complains that she won't clean up the house while he is gone.
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Better question, what's with the PMRC routine and how apparently if you think someone shouldn't be fired for what they said in the past, it now means you support everything they've ever said?
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PMRC... good connection... good times.... with Al Gore's wife as well, clutching her pearls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Vyr1TylTE
/Mr. Gore makes an appearance as well, if you've never seen Twisted Sister's Dee Snyder's appearance before the PMRC.
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Marvel Studios Reportedly Hiring Jimmy Gunnbergo for 'Guardians of the Galaxy'
FTFY
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Did they actually unironically go for the pedo look, or is it not his supporters that came up with that?
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lol
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these are all tactics to push Disney into bringing him back.
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The whole thing is turning me against the franchise. Infinity Wars didn't knock me off the planet, and this whole back and forth of 'sources' saying one thing one day, only to have a another 'source; contradict the next day, is just leaving me cold. Whoever helms the next GOTG, meh. I'm burnt out of the whole sordid parade of it.
In the back of my mind, I have the imagery of Gunn being a 'source'. making a hell of a lot of phone calls and emails, adding to the rumor grind.
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Hollywood watching out for their own? Geez that never happens.
Porn star avoids gay porn stars to not get AIDS? She should kill herself!
Scientist wears shirt to promote female friend? Clearly Sexist.
Two guys make joke about a computer part? Fire them because someone got offended.
Guy fucks a child on screen? FREEEZE PEACH REEEEEEEE!
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They can do whatever they want that's the whole point, fire em' re-hire em' it's their decision to make, some people will be overjoyed if he's brought back while others will see Disney as being spineless... either way those people can simply choose to not go see the movie, personally I'm tired of the super hero crap, it's approaching zombie horror levels of over saturation.
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Its not about hiring or firing over controversial tweets, it is about a corporation potentially officially endorsing that two different rulebooks exist dependent on your political leanings. Lets be honest if James Gunn was politically like James Woods the media would never have come out to support him.
The left freaked out that the right had turned their own handbook against them and as a result it looks like they are comfortable enough to officially go into "rules for thee but not for me" territory.
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Imo gotg is not at super hero movie but more of cosmic space shinnaniganes, but I do understand the annoyance of superhero flicks
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Once Avengers 4 is over, I'm done. That at least should hopefully be a good conclusion of sorts.
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So if you are right leaning and even have friends with unpopular opinions your ass is grass, but if you are a leftie you can do as you please and the media still comes to bat for you. Great message to be sending.
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The fact that everyone here is calling him a pedophile, despite the fact that he was clearly being a Tryhard Edgelord... Oh lordy, how sad.
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It's not about that. The second their standards are remotely applied, it's a 5 alarm fire and a full court press to make sure that, not only is the other side really attacked, but the consequence is 100% undone.
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Exactly this.
If racist jokes make you an irredeemable racist who needs to be removed from society
And a sexist comment makes you forevermore a sexist
What does years of jokes and "jokes" about fucking kids make you?
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Don't forget he made jokes about rape and "trannies" too.
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The top comment in this thread. WTF. We have to call that shit out, especially among ourselves.
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I'm just going to block you guys. Either you're shills, concern trolls, or you're the kind of loser who lets SJWs win because they're more disgusting with their own side for not unilaterally disarming. Either way, nothing you say is ever going to be anything I'm going to take seriously.
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Seriously. It's the same tactics SJWs use.
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That's the entire point. I don't give a fuck about his tweets but by the rules they've established, it's okay to brand him with the worst labels imaginable.
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Per say I follow a rule that anyone who is caught stealing is executed. Years go by and many are killed. Then I am caught stealing. What should happen to me?
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Depends. Is there a "freedom of stealing" law in this imaginary country of yours?
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Of course there is but that only stops the government from stealing from you
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It is super sad that kia now has people who don't know about jokes.
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It's really sad that ideologies seem to interfer with what is a purely enjoyable product....he did good shit with GOTG.
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I'm chalking a lot of it up to battle fatigue.
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I mean...
As a business decsion, absolutely, bring him back. All that's been proved is that Gunn made some edgy, disgusting jokes. GOTG was great, GOTG2 was fine imo, the first one was lightning in a bottle, but I had fun with it. The SJWs have already forgiven him and people will see another GOTG if it's good. Mel Gibson is back directing and everyone sang praises of Hacksaw Ridge 2 years ago.
If they bring him back we'll probably get a fun movie out of it. If they don't, we have the schadenfreude. Win-win.
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gotg2 was an abortion
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I liked it. I thought it was better than all the other Marvel flicks except maybe Winter Soldier.
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All his old edgelord jokes need to be spread far and wide if they decide to re-hire him.
Fuck the concern trolls saying otherwise.
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OMG, the number of worthless pussies in this sub who believe in laying down and dying without ever fighting back.
If you have a problem with holding Gunn to his own standard, you're worthless. YOU are the reason the SJWs keep winning, and you're the ones ruining this country.
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It was bound to happen.
It's a win-win for Disney to rehire him.
They and everyone else gets to say "YEA! FUCK YOU ALT-RIGHT!! WE WON!!"
The cast is happy and the movie goes ahead smoothly
The backlash will be minimal when the movie comes out
Even though those tweets were, and still are, creepy as fuck all Disney should not have fired him in the first place.
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They really should. He wasn't deserving of being fired.
But let's remind them daily that they're complete hypcorites.
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Shouldn't have been fired in the first place.
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I don't want him having access to kids...
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Absolutely fucking nobody is in a rush to ask James Gunn to babysit their children.
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They were jokes, you pussy. Jesus.
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People like Gunn called Dankula a Nazi for his joke. This is just spitting their logic back into their face.
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A pedophile working at Marvel? Hmm.
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A joke is a joke.
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Even if they do bring him back for the next film, I think Gunn has a stain on him that isn't going to help him with people wanting to go see his movies for the rest of his career. He may be in demand with Hollywood, why wouldn't they? Polanski is a hero to all of them. But I just can't see people turning out in numbers to go see his movies.
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I keep hearing people mention here how James Gunn deserves what he preached. Does anyone have any links to where he called for people to be treated how he is now being? I want to make an informed decision about how I feel about him. When I search him all I'm getting is the firing but not him calling for similar things to happen to people.
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Honestly, I don't think they should.
Not for the obvious reasons either. If they do hire him back, I'd want to see a second writer.
I actually think that Guardians 2 was worse than 1 because Gunn had no second writer to bounce ideas off.
But Guardians 3 I think would be screwed because of 2. What pay-offs are there for any of the Guardians that hasn't been given either in 2 or Infinity War?
Starlord met his father and him and Gamora's love interest was fulfilled.
Gamora's business with Thanos will be settled by Avengers 4 if it hasn't already.
Drax's pay-offs have been with Ronan and Thanos.
Rocket's ultimate pay-off isn't that big of a deal even if they were to do it.
Groot has already had his.
Nebula's is with Thanos.
And Mantis has no pay-off.
So what are they gonna do with the characters who we've already seen all of the major pay-offs for? Especially since their next antagonist was teased as Adam Warlock?
I think Gunn blew his story load in Guardians 2, and may have screwed Guardians 3, IDK, but that's just my feeling.
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I thought the first one was boring/bland and the second one was way better, specially the characters growth.
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Eh, I thought in the second most of the characters merely had their traits amped up by factors of 5. Drax really doesn't understand social situations, Rocket REALLY hates being called a Raccoon, etc.
Also I felt that they should have fleshed out Yondu's relationship with Starlord a bit more, that the Sovereign were boring if amusing secondary antagonists, and that some of the jokes, like Baby Groots' drug out way too long.
But then, that's just me.
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Just in case you didn't realize there are two entirely different rulebooks - one for the elite (and their stooges), and one for the rest of us.
Be warned: At some point people are going to reject being held to rules that our glorious masters in the Woke Horde refuse to even adhere to. And when that happens, all bets are off. (This will be signaled by someone like the Bike Lock Bandit receiving an extrajudicial response to his actions.) This is one of the reasons the far left is doing their best to disrupt any ability to communicate not approved by them.
Edit: Per criticism below, I stopped mention of James Gunn's potential pedophilia.
Meanwhile.... Dankula goes to jail because he can't get an appeal and refuses to pay
Dankula has graciously asked all the people who support him to also support James Gunn because that is the morally genuine course of action.
Yeah, no. No one's gonna do that.
"Hey, the guy who supports the fucking flamethrower being fired at us might get burned a little and drop it if you don't jump in front of it! Remember your principles!"
Holy fuck; Gunn supports the mob shit that may get Dankula thrown in jail. Don't bail him out for his own losses; are you insane?
So why is that a bad thing, if you're all of a sudden okay with it when it happens to someone you don't like?
You have no basis other than petty tribalism to object to an immoral action if you throw away your standards the moment it stands to "benefit" you.
And Dank is being too kind. It's not the same.
Dankula never supported people being fired for jokes. Gunn did. Dankula was prosecuted by the government. Gunn wasnt.
And we should, it's one thing to say fucked up shit, and while the joke is distasteful, there is no evidence to suggest he was actually doing any of the alleged pedophillia.
Dankula also was not actually gasing jews.
The people asking for his blood in this subedit, we need to remember what we stand for which is a community that condemns willful censorship, exclusion, harassment, and abuse. It is a community that organizes to hold the media accountable to the concept of artistic freedom by standing up for the artist, the developer, the writer, the filmmaker, and all who enjoy the freedom to create, explore, and expand. It is a community that allows the exchange of information, supports the ongoing discussion of media ethics, and protects the right of the individual to embrace their personal interests in entertainment and fandom.
So even if gunn was a moron and made pro-censorship comments we should still be defending him, and if we do and he starts recognizing the pure savagery of SJW and censorship that won't even protect their own, we gain another voice.
We should defend and fight for gunn even if what he did was bullshot.
Making fucktons of "jokes" that don't sound like jokes at all, having at least one close friend caught and convicted for having kiddie porn, being in hollywood as a director, and sending a tweet saying he supports
but it's totes just jokes guises.
He may have not done anything but this shit seems awfully close to probable cause.
There is being objective and ignoring evidence just so you can try to win "good buy points" for being "unbiased", even if it is a bit circumstantial as there's a fucking lot of it.
Exactly. Unfortunately, more than a few people here don't mind totalitarianism as long as they're the ones doing it.
Fuck James Gunn.
Then fuck Fagula too, all these centrist people are pulling the same bullshit that ALWAYS ruins everything. Yeah keep letting them off the hook Fagula, maybe when you get raped in the ass in prison you'll get why we're pissed libshits and libshit enablers like you keep doing this.
If this was a conservative you centrist no opinion retards would be calling him a pedo, just like you called Roseanne a racist. "Hey now, we can't murder these terrorists, thats what terrorists do! We need to give them airline jobs!"
I defended Roseanne just I defend Ben Affleck, Alex Jones, Dankula and everyone else who has their rights undermined because unlike YOU, I have principles.
Prison rape LOL 😂
I'll laugh if the one theory I've heard is correct and Dank could only spend 1 day in jail, potentially. That would be hilarious on so many levels.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!
I'm back in school and haven't been following KiA in a while but how the fuck did this guy only get probation?!? Misdemeanor assault only? It's fucking battery too! I'm fuming.
Rumour would have it he cut a deal and snitched hard. If that's the case, he's not exactly going to be popular among his own.
Who would he snitch on? For what crimes?
Fellow black bloc for all sorts of rioting shit?
Like I said, rumours would have it. For all I know the judge is just a fucking muppet.
Antifa is basically a gang. They go to public events with the purpose of committing violence, but they do it with masks on and enjoy fading into a crowd after they throw a suckerpunch. Someone who can watch tapes of masked people comitting these crimes and go "Yep, that's David, he always wears that pin. Oh yeah, that's Mary, I remember talking to her right after this video was taken" can get a lot of these chuds thrown in jail.
Someone hasn't read up on their Alinsky.
Antifa doesn't care if their members rat; they don't know enough to be useful. He'll join a new cell and go back to it.
eventually the government's gonna be forced to take down antifa soon, my only thing is...do it soon, before it becomes a bloodbath, because i can tell you now, if one antifa members kills someone, its gonna lead to bloody vigilante justice, and trust me, we REALLY dont need a gang war on the streets, im all for people fighting antifa in self defense...but no way in hell do i wanna see the streets looking like a one sided civil war
Wasn't he a white and therefore unclean in his allies eyes?
With a deadly weapon no less, unless that only counts "purpose built" weapons- which is a retarded distinction if so.
Cars are not "purpose-built" weapons, but willingly or drunkenly hitting someone with a car is still considered assault with a deadly weapon, so I doubt there's a distinction.
Well then besides crippling dementia from the judge I can only assume agenda pushing would cause that not to be one of his charges in that case- very likely several cases of that very charge.
There is no reason besides corruption for that shitheel to not be incarcerated for several years- maybe a decade.
Either commie judge or he snitched because he didn't want the Aryan Brotherhood murdering him in jail
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Which was likely a part of the plea deal
The only light at that tunnel is that while you are under probation if you get arrested you get to serve your time. So if he is smart he will stay away from protests for a while, but who would ever accuse him of being smart.
He already violated his bail by going to a Klantifa rally... We are talking about fucking California here... Hes practically a hero to these scumbags.
Sounds terrible but I am kinda rooting for the forest fires. Sweep the whole fucking state clean. XD
Don't get your hopes up buddy. I've been hearing California is supposed to fall off into the ocean since I was a kid and I still haven't had the pleasure of seeing it happen.
I really don't think we can call Gunn a pedophile if all he does is say creepy shit occasionally.
At least since the term pedophile connotes that they act on their urges even if it doesn't denote that, but even with the more strict definition we actually don't know if he fits that either.
That's not the point, though.
There are countless other public figures who have said creepy or problematic shit and had their media accounts deleted and their careers ruined.
This is what they wanted. So unless they're into helping correct it, they can have a taste of their own medicine.
Sure, but that doesn't mean that I'm a fan of lying about someone. You can hold our opponents' feet to the flames they helped stoke, but we don't have to be lying about who and what they are to one other.
Did you see me calling Gunn a pedophile?
I'm only talking about making them apply their standards to themselves.
Well, you see the people who are going super hard into it likely aren't lying, they honestly believe it.
Being passionately against an evil can sometimes drive someone to go beyond a measured response.
It's the tragedy that some roads to hell are paved with good intentions. They don't recognize that it's the same as throwing a man in jail for making nazi jokes with his dog.
That is basically a version of "started a conversation" that you're defending there
No, I'm holding them to THEIR standards. They want to shut down people like Roseanne over problematic shit? Then do the same thing with Gunn.
Or let these people say whatever they want online with no consequence. You can't advocate applying the rules to one group alone.
No.
We are past that. James "Short Eyes" Gunn believes that racist jokes make one racist. He tweeted that ABC is more than free to fire Roseanne for her racist joke, in fact, Gunn believes it's dtheir moral obligation.
So by his own rules, he jokes about molesting children. Guess what that makes him? Disney is more than welcome to fire him becsuse "muh private company".
Fuck this guy. I'm tired of smug asshole leftists getting away with things they simultaneously scream bloody murder about when it happens to them. Stop letting yourself get Alinskyed.
If you want to play that game against them that's fine, but spreading that shit here is going to make some people here think he is actually a pedophile. This community will not survive if we abandon honest debate. If anything said here is untrue or unproven then it is the duty of everyone here to call out the dishonesty.
There's no value to this community if we can't trust anything anyone says. Especially not if that person is a decently respected regular.
Well there are people on the mod team that have thrown that right out the fucking window and several of those "respected regulars" are like snakes so I don't know what you are complaining about now.
The jury is very much out on that.
Guy soon to be literally convicted for child porn: Hey gunn check out this video of 100 pubescent girls I thought you'd like it ;)
Gunn: Thanks I just came all over my face!!
is not normal behavior.
It is not normal comedian behavior.
It is not normal shock-jock behavior.
It is seriously fucked up with no tangible tie-in to 'jokes'.
Who gives a fuck? His own rules are idiotic. They don't deserve a nanosecond's consideration. Stop it.
The only way to get these assholes to stop is to burn them with their own weapons. They will use our principles as a weapon, as they have been doing this entire time.
I want to win.
Yep. It seems to just be a dishonest epithet to append to disliked people.
I thought we here liked it when words maintained their definition.
hence why people are complaining about Gunn being called that. only evidence is just the lamest of edgy "jokes" and nothing like victims coming forward or witness reports or anything solid.
call him a pedophilic creep if you wanna maintain why the edgy jokes are such but dont accuse him directly of being a pedophile.
WRONG. Stop trying to redefine the word and turn it into NEWSPEAK.
PEDOPHILE - Noun: a person who is sexually attracted to children.
That's it. PERIOD. It's someone who wants to fuck children.
It's not like you can slip, trip and accidentally fuck a child - the urge has to be there.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedophilia
https://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia
Do you know what connote and denote mean?
We need to make sure we are seen as good people!!! Bend me over and cum in my ass, please I'm on the right side of history! Gunn isn't a pedo please we need to make sure we help liberals out every chance we can
Cmon now lets not be like SJWs now. We also need to stop criticizing Anita Sarkeesian for having different opinions, that's what SJWs do right? We also need to stop drinking water and breathing oxygen, because the SJWs do that too
James Gunn did nothing wrong.
Well I'm not even saying that, just don't fling around slanderous statements.
Of course. Our main Polish newspapers had an interview with Roman Polanski once. He was pictured as a moral authority. The same newspaper who applied the pedophile label to everyone merely accused of it never used it when referring to the man who raped a drugged 13 year old in the ass and ran out of the country from punishment.
It made my blood boil back then, it does now.
Stop with this SJW tactic of labeling Gunn something that he's not.
I'm glad he's back because his jokes were not an issue and it was a moot point. The only drawback, however, is that the SJWs won't learn a lesson from this whole scenario. It'll empower them to continue what they're doing without realizing that they're the ones who made his removal for bad jokes possible in the first place.
Fair enough. James Gunn finds humor in the subject of child rape and sex with underage boys and girls.
All better?
Yeah, and that's fine. You can make a joke out of anything.
Especially repeatedly and along with a convicted sexual offender.
I do not find him funny and in most cases would not think anything of it... but a bit of a mismatch with a family friendly Disney demographic.
If you see someone joking like that on their Twitter, would you let them babysit your kids?
Yep. That's because dark humor is still humor.
My entire point is and was that not all comedians are a good fit for whatever corporate interest. Unlike the AJ thing he is there employee so they have an interest in controlling their narrative .
He likes jokes about killing and fucking children.
And he makes films for children.
Does that bother you since you love his movies, that they are aimed at children? Did you dance with glee when the child trafficker who enabled the deaths of hundreds, possibly thousands of children kidnapped and delivered to Ego, when "I'm Mary Poppins, y'all!" got a heroic funeral? Did you clap? Did you even think of the dead children the character was responsible for?
Yup. No need to be a stickler for comedy just because of different views. Again, that's what SJWs do.
Really? do you think his comedy stylings are a good match for Disney? I really doubt the mouse will back down , it would really set a bad precedent for the "don't fuck with the mouse" reputation.
This is worse than underage, this is actual children, 10 year olds.
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Because they can claim the moral high ground. Because when they do a shitty tactic, they can change up the language to soften the blow or take the bit of backlash and use it to claim they're the victim.
The problem will always be optics. Every time there's a possibility of shoving a controversy down the SJWs faces, all they have to do is get on a subreddit, 4chan or a Discord server to find idiots proclaiming how everything is an "op" and that this is done to benefit Trump or something stupid on that matter.
The SJWs are not good people, but they can cover their shittiness with the autistic dummies who want to take them down.
It's difficult. With the whole NY Times Jeong thing they're trying to play it off as "it was just a prank bro, you don't like shock comedy? Making jokes about white people hurt your fee-fees?" When she's just... objectively racist and obviously not joking.
There's a difference between your friend saying "haha the jews did 9/11 xD xD xD" and writing anti-jew stuff on Facebook for 4 years while having IRL Neo-Nazi friends. With Gunn it's a bit more gray.
Oh it's absolute complete shit, but look at how she framed it. She's a female POC, said she got threats, threw in GG and voila, instant victim.
Gunn's constant tweets about child porn were not jokes. There is no punchline. There is no setup. It's just "little boys make my dick hard!" and "this video of underage girls made me cum on my face!"
They're beyond the pale even for shock value shockjock material.
You can stop pretending everything he said is just a joke now.
Oh stop thumping your Bible, grandpa. If you don't get that a guy who worked for Troma Entertainment made shocking jokes then you need to get a sense of humor or go hang out with humorless SJWs.
Continuing to pretend that they're jokes doesn't change the fact that they're still not even close to resembling a joke.
Pretty soon the only recourse remaining for the right in the west is going to be violence or accepting the spiral of degeneracy we are entering. Scary times ahead.
Unless there's proof, Gunn isn't a pedophile. Cut that shit out. He's guilty of being an edgelord. Don't be a liar like the people who lie about us.
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That is...... not a remote attempt at accuracy there. The actual story is bad, it doesn't need to be embellished.
He hit them in the head with a metal club with intent to do grievous bodily harm.
That's attempted murder.
Your description of what he does is categorically not attempted murder. California, for example, requires that for attempted murder to be a sentence, intent to kill must be proven, not just intent to harm. What was done was clearly battery (misdemeanor), and a case can be made as to if it's assault with a deadly weapon (and indeed that was most of the dropped felonies, which would have required convincing a jury to count it as a deadly weapon).
Or to put it this way, someone was punched in New York recently, and hitting the ground when he fell was damaging enough that it killed him. That does not, in any way, mean that now, any time anyone else punches someone, that's attempted murder.
And I've not seen anything saying he confessed to it, either. In the plea deal, he had pleaded 'no contest' however, and I think this is hugely important for civil liberties, that does not equate to an admission of guilt. Example, Brian Banks, notable case where someone spent years in jail due to a false rape accusation, pleaded no contest to get a plea deal not because he had done it (he hadn't raped her), but because it meant that he could only face 6 years max, and not the 41 years he was facing otherwise.
That's not to say that I think this guy is innocent, but that this distinction is important to protect, specifically for people like Brian Banks who get railroaded.
One of the many reasons the "hold them to their own standards" tactic is horseshit. Not only does it normalize and incentivize the behavior we're suppose to be opposed to, but it doesn't even fucking work! They will never follow their own rules.
You never get tired of being wrong. These authoritarians are never going to stop until they’re stopped, and turning their own tactics on them is part of that.
You're counting on them recognizing this. Even when they do, they don't wise up, they just get pissed off that it's happening to them.
I'm not picking a side here, but to play devil's advocate, it's similar to that saying regarding debate. You're not trying to change their mind - they're often zealots - you're trying to change the minds of people watching. As u/ronin4life said, it points out the double standards and the corruption, when these people aren't held to their own standards.
Again, I'm not endorsing the practice of using their own tactics against them, as I'm not sure where I stand on it, but to say it's completely ineffective isn't true. I can certainly see how it could be useful. It makes the neutral, and the centrists, and the non-deranged wonder what's going on; why are there two sets of rules?
The point isn’t to push them until they have a sudden lightbulb moment and begin behaving decently. They won’t, they’re not reasonable people. The point is to stop them, to deprive them of the ability to harm others regardless of how unreasonable they are.
The point isn't to punish them, and most of the people critical of Gunn didn't even call for him to be fired. What they did do was point out the hypocrisy and note how if this is what people say they want then everyone must be held to the same standard, even Gunn... and if you don't like that then good, because we are already there waiting for you to realize that this was always a bad road.
And then stuff like this happens, where people like Gunn are given special excuses because they are James Gunn. The arguement never changed, the only people being hypocritical are those handwaving away the 'sins' of their friends and that this isn't just a bad idea on a base level but the main advocates for these rules have no intention to be bound by them themselves... if they weren't just flat out lying all along and the rules were actually crude weapons to destroy people they don't like.
It is about spreading the truth hy highlighting injustice: "These rules aren't for everyone, just for punishing those who step out of line. See? They all defend James Gunn despite his behavior. NOW SEE? Now he isn't even being punished according to his own standards. Do you think these are good or fair standards now?"
Oh well.
You can clutch your pearls while the world burns; the rest of us have work to do.
I hear what you're saying. But, in the end, it matters not if they realize they are wrong. What matters is that they're stopped.
Let me know how that works for ya.
Edit: Downvoting won't erase that big fat L Disney's about to hang on you.
The fact that he was fired at all shows the tactic can be reversed and that rather than run from it, it should have more resources devoted to it
Nah, but we can pass it forward by hanging one on you as well. To the Downvote-Mobile!
Nothing works. It isn't like the "hold them to their own standard" is exceptional in that regard either.
What it does do however is inform more and more people about the corruption and two faced society we live in. When they see a set of rules for one group and another for those higher up then they are it makes them realize how fucked up everything is. And the more people who become aware the easier it will be to change things
Actually addressing the issue instead of parroting it works. It's how good ideas win out over bad ideas; by presenting themselves as a better alternative. You point to the lives ruined by socialism as an argument against it, but you don't throw socialists in gulags to show them how bad they are.
No, all it does it make the people arguing against it look like hypocrites. Because they are, in fact, hypocrites.
You can point out hypocrisy without engaging in it. You can say the Holocaust was bad without committing a Holocaust of your own.
You need to remember, it's not the SJW's we're trying to win over. It's everyone else.
That's the point I was making in the first place. Not engaging in hypocrisy, only pointing it out. It isn't by some "counter mob" that Gunn should be fired, only the original mob based on its own stated standards. When he isn't, or when he is rehired, that shows the double standard
The majority of people you think are "engaging in hypocrisy" by saying Gunn should be fired are only doing so to show off the double standard, and mean it only so far as to then say "look, this isn't good when it happens to 'you', can we stop this now?" They don't actually think Gunn should be fired for angering an outrage mob alone and often say as such.
You don't seem to understand that the whole point of holding them to their own standards is to demonstrate that there are two sets of rules being enforced one where the progressives/SJWs/elites can get away with anything while another ruleset for anyone else where they get devoured by mob outrage.
More and more previously neutral people are waking up to the cancer that is SJWs/progressive bullshit by seeing that one group gets drastically unfair preferential treatment.
You demonstrate that devouring them with mob outrage? Do you point out the crime problem in Detroit by carjacking someone? Do you point out the water crisis in Flint by poisoning the water in Cleveland? No, you simply point to it. You bring attention to it. You don't copycat it. That's retarded.
Your comparisons are completely unrelated to what people here have done.
Most people here have brought attention to it by demonstrating that one side doesn't get held to their own standards. Most people here are not lashing out in mob outrage against Gunn in spite but trying to demonstrate that despite any massive outrage against Gunn, it won't result in fair action because Gunn gets a free pass for being part of the progressive cancer.
You don't seem to get it though.
Trying to shame hypocrites rarely works because "hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue for having standards." But just like when you argue with someone whose mind will never change, you're not trying to change their mind, you're trying to persuade observers.