W17LY•

Maybe it's just the dynamic weather/fog.

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Kls7•

Exactly, just different weather. Both look amazing though

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MarkLedgerOP•

Ross's outfit

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Kls7•

They might have changed his outfit or he might be wearing a different coat because of the weather... It might even be a different encounter with the gang, but in the same camp, there's no way to know for sure

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bartokavanaugh•

Nah these people know what theyre doing. It was purposefully done to low key show off the dynamic weather differences of any given situation. Pushing the idea of seamless transitions. If the weather is one way when you arrive at that mission.. it'll show the same weather in the cut scene unless storyline dictates otherwise.. im sure.

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skillz_kill•

Maybe people change clothes just like the player character does. That would be nuts.

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Root0007•

Maybe there two different scenes at two different times, perhaps you encounter them more than once?

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starrmanquik•

The cutscenes probably happen in real time, depending on the actually weather/time of day you are in. I imagine that's all it is.

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jp101195•

Well I mean not exactly. You don't know for sure.

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GaryOaksHotSister•

Yeah my first thought too, would be neat if weather effected cinematics.

I can't remember but didn't both RDR1 and GTAV have a set-time and weather effect for its cinematics?

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Nope, just played through red dead redemption, the dynamic weather effected the cinematics. I got to Mexico and got the cutscene for the gang that confronts John Marston in the middle of a storm at night. When I say a clip online of the same encounter it was in the middle of the day and sunny.

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Audax2•

Some missions in GTA V had to be played during a certain time, so the game would fast-forward to it. It even happens once or twice in missions.

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BlindStark:sadie_adler: Sadie Adler•

Yeah it shows a nice cinematic of the day fast forwarding. It would be jarring if it happened every single time I’d imagine.

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Audax2•

Yeah. I imagine they’ll do the same in RDR2. But there will be missions where it doesn’t matter, or the time window will probably be large.

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maxigirl94•

Mmm I don’t know. Red Dead Redemption would change the time of day for some story missions. It’s very possible an analogous decision was made for weather and they simply changed their mind as to what weather they wanted in this scene.

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heavy_chamfer•

time of day?

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W17LY•

Yeah, probably different time too.

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hahaveryfunny666•

Oh my god I never thought of that maybe they’re all wearing different things cause it’s colder :0000 this game is so good

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MarkLedgerOP•

Dutch's coat though

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W17LY•

Different lightning. Spiderman proves that lightning can change a lot how surfaces look.

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Dinosthenis•

They definitely fancied up the game since the last trailer before launch.

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MarkLedgerOP•

Ah. But Edgar Ross my friend.

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W17LY•

Different choices. It's obviously the same cutscene with minor artistic changes.

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xwrongwayx•

Are we just assuming that the man with the mustache and the bowler is Edgar Ross?

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TheScythe65•

Looks like it, but Arthur has himself a fancy coat

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Krabins•

Well the first trailer came out during summer. It's gotten colder.

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PichardRetty•

The picture without the coat is the latest one, though.

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Coolest_Breezy•

Exactly.

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Darraghj12•

Red Dead Redemption is set in the southern Henisphere confirmed

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SpacePoodle•

But then they all would be upside down with budgie smugglers on

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BlondieClashNirvanaTHE CAT•

He's obviously stripping in this scene.

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Noamias:arthur_morgan: Arthur Morgan•

Well that's probably because the player wore it when he activated the cutscene

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AtmousphericBill Williamson•

If anything weather is dynamic so it will probably affect cutscenes

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Mr_Film:arthur_morgan: Arthur Morgan•

Looks way better now

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xblckdynamitex•

It could have just been a different time of day with the same scene

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MarkLedgerOP•

Yeah looks like a restoration you know

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ResidentCoconut•

I think the textures on the clothes looks better in the top image.

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Ahmazing786•

It’s just the lighting

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curlyswine•

Can’t wait til a frenzy breaks out about how they’re changing the game from the trailers

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VoidofEggnog•

WHERE ARE THE PUDDLES??

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JustAnOctopus:bill_williamson: Bill Williamson•

Puddlegate 2018 : The RePuddling

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Imyourlandlord•

People are dumb, since they go through the same missions in game and not realise that its a different time/weather

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PlatinumSarge:sadie_adler: Sadie Adler•

Literally unplayable! /s

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nico_de_galloo•

Uh I’m I the only sane one around here? Where are the puddles?!?!?!

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AgathonDers•

doWngRadE #COATGATE

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MarkLedgerOP•

It looks better anyway ahahaha

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JustAnOctopus:bill_williamson: Bill Williamson•

Puddlegate 2 : The Coat Saga

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Bathplug•

Looks good. Don’t think we will have to worry about something like puddlegate in spiderman.

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Sierra419•

As someone who only vaguely knows what went on with that - what actually happened? They cut water effects and dynamic lighting/reflections from the main game after showing it in game at E3?

Nice guys, downvoting someone for asking a question. This sub is something else.

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GenghisKha1206•

They removed the majority of a puddle from 1 scene purely for artistic reasons (as stated by rockstar and digital foundry) and people said it was a downgrade.

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0regonMicah Bell•

Rockstar?

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mittensthekhajit•

I'm sure he meant Insomniac Games but like the rest of us he has Rock star and Red Dead Redemption 2 on the brain. :D

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T_Hag•

Yeah it wasn’t even that bad. People just wanted the game to be bad because it was an exclusive. Fanboys for both sides do it.

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EmptyItOut:john_marston: John Marston•

It was actually proven that Spider-Man was upgraded from the E3 gameplay.

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SuperKhalimba•

Same scene, different weather/outfit.

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DoStuffAndStuff•

Lol everyone trying to point out graphical differences.. while there may be some, it seems pretty obvious the main difference is caused by dynamic weather.

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sigmoid10•

That plus less depth of field. If this was Ubisoft I'd say they added extra screen effects to the old trailer or removed them from the final game because they impacted performance too much. But this is Rockstar. They don't need to pull that shit.

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JacoBee93•

Can’t wait till people posts “this is such a downgrade” it will be fun for while.

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Shadowhunterx59•

It looks better now

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Sierra419•

Maybe dynamic weather affecting the in-engine cutscenes.

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zchandos•

if this was an ea game you would be flipping the two photos

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tommygun999_r•

Forest and overall image got better, but they seem to have excluded some additional reflections on Dutch's coat, it looks less detailed in launch trailer. But if that's the only downgrade, I don't care much, since there is so many gameplay mechanics and customization options advertised, I can easily live without additional reflections on some coats.

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TehPandemic•

Looks like the texture has gone from a smooth leather to suede

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MarkLedgerOP•

I think Dutch's coat isn't as pretty but it looks more real to what those are supposed to look like.

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Root0007•

Forground looks more filled in

Dutch is wearing a hat

Arthur in a Jackat (same as trailers/gameplay)

Bill looks a lot different (on the left - comparing top to bottom)

Javier Escuela is now in this scene whereas he wasn't before? (right side - comparing top to bottom)

Charles smith seems to be in tact

I'm not sure who the person to the left of the FBI detective is although he does look similar to Edgar Ross?

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ZackyMidnight•

Cutscenes confirmed to be 15 minutes long. Dynamic weather and clothing. You can see in this scene that they were talking so long that a fog rolled in and arthur had to put on a jacket. Confirmed this feature is for PS4 pro or Xbox one X owners WITH a 4k OLED ONLY.

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adricarf:micah_bell: Micah Bell•

I think that it is because The different wears and climes will appear in cinematics (like in a lot of games). Also it has been confirmed by a lot of reviews.

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xBlackRose97x•

Definitely the same scene. The bottom one has Javier as to where the top image has another member in his place (cant remember his name). perhaps hinting at a squad selection of sorts? Pick and choose who comes with you. With all the other obvious differences , its clearly a different playthrough, so a choice somewhere led to Javier being there or not.

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Spice_memeiSTOLE:charles_smith: Charles Smith•

Looks like Javier replaces Lenny

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mrtwitch222•

I don’t see enough puddles.

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