The old models in the new WoW Classic character creation screen!
Posted Oct 23, 2018, 7:42 PM UTC
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Credit goes to u/Paytime over at r/wow
Seems like they were already able to download the client for the demo and skip the login-servers with some trick.
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Damn r/wowservers is gonna have a field day. Wonder if they’ll whip up a bootleg server
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I doubt it. The Mangos server used today took a decade of hard work reverse engineering the TBC client into a server. Then even more work to mod it for vanilla. Then even more work to make it decently okay to play, as in people has been working on this since 2007 and only by Nostalrius in 2016? I think it was 2016 did they manage to make a good clone.
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Prismatia was the first in 2012 and Prismatia 2 in 2013. They give all their work to nostalrius dev after blizzard layer contacted them
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ehh...
Nostalrius was still pretty much stock MangOS with insane player limits and progressive patches. It still featured all of the bugs, wonky drop rates, etc.
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Vanillagaming has been a perfectly playable server that's been up and running since 2009. It was the first private Vanilla server out there.
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It's already up and running.
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I'm pretty sure there's a leaf on a tree in the background that's out of place. GG Blizzard ruined classic WoW. /s
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I guarantee there are private server nerds who are outraged at this picture because they notice some change somewhere
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First thing I noticed was the lightning. Looks like when you first inject SweetFx into a game.
Looks puuuurdy
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Vanilla never had the word "Classic" under the logo. GG Blizz ruined it. #NoChanges
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#notmywow
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Your right it's blizzards game
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*You’re
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Are those the original vanilla models? Because they look very different to the nostalrius character models
EDIT: Actually, I think its just the shadow effects that look different
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Should be the original models.
Seems like they just got some newer textures with higher resolution but the shadows make them look a bit off.
There's also this post (also from u/Paytime) about the graphics settings of the demo client and a comment on the MMO-Champion article about the "Classic Button":
There is a 'Classic' button in the Video Settings that sets all of the sliders to the levels that were equivalent to the options available in the 2004 version of the game.
I'd wager that this means that those shadows are entirely optional and can be disabled; which should restore the look to what people were used to seeing back in the day.
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I wish the classic video settings were the default. But at least they're there.
I'm a little worried though about the lightning. This isn't a small thing.
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What's important is the gameplay and features. It doesn't have to be the exact same way it was
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And the fact that they used the old models at all! I'm not going to nitpick lighting if everything else is identical to how it was, that sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me
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So it should only be faithful in certain ways then? How about we add some new music, some people like the new tracks. Or introduce updated gear. Visuals are immensely important for some people and changing the lightning is one of the biggest, most notable changes they could do.
All I wish is that the classic look would be the DEFAULT and not the option.
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I want the opposite. Make the game look as good as possible the attract the biggest crowd possible. Classic withering and dying due to a small audience is much worse than some bad shadows.
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If it's classic it should be classic in as many ways as possible. Visuals are a huge part for some people. Besides these "upgraded" shadows look awful.
But at least we'll get the option to turn them off. Just wish the classic look was the default and what people see when logging in rather than the other way around.
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Why is the lighting an issue for you?
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Why shouldn't it be? It affects how everything looks.
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The difference you are seeing (from my first glanse really, didnt delve too deep into a comparison), would most likely be due to the BFA shaders.
Damn, i can't wait to play this in a more crisp state! HYPED
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The lighting or something is very different. I like
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This is awesome, can't wait to get back on and play. They even have the old race portraits!
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Most importantly, no blood elfs. . I can finally enjoy WoW again.
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Why did Blood Elves stop you enjoying WoW? They were fairly established in lore from Warcraft 3. I don't want to come off as rude, I am just curious.
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I think for many people it just didn't fit their vision of the horde. Considering that after WC3 the horde was a faction of noble savages, fighting for their survival in the world, and that the devs themselves "admited" that the bloodelves were only added to the horde to give them a pretty race (to combat faction imbalance), I can see where those people are coming from.
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I can see that, Belfs to the Horde were a little out of left field and they don't really fit with the rest of the Horde ascetic.
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nd nhow da elfs fight fur da horrrde?
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Because 90% of the horde on retail are stupid elves. If I wanted elves around me I would of rolled alliance. The horde in retail vanilla was a true Horde, full of misfit Orcs, Trolls and zombies. Now Horde in retail is like 90% barbie dolls and 10% old horde.
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true Horde, full of misfit Orcs, Trolls and zombies.
Funny, coming from War 3, I hated the fact that the Forsaken were part of the Horde(and Nelf were part of the Alliance). Ogres should have been the 4th race. I felt the Forsaken should have stayed the "morally ambiguous but leaning on evil" neutral faction and had no place in Thralls Horde.
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I care more for lore than for asthetics, and lore-wise bloodelves fit the Horde (Thrall's Horde) extremely well.
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Who cares about races on retail lol, everyone plays with max zoom out you dont see anyones character. It plays like eve online.
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Absolutely this. I cringe every time I go to r/wow and there's some FOR THE HORDE! post and it's a fucking female blood elf. Don't get me wrong, I made one too in TBC, but it's just not the Horde for me.
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It was based on the success of Korean MMOs where the "evil" side always had an aesthetically appealing race.
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Trouble is that the alternative of having 1000 bloodelves, 300 orcs, 200 undead, 100 trolls & 100 tauren, is having 300 orcs, 200 undead, 100 trolls & 100 tauren.
Bloodelves helped a lot to reduce the faction imbalances that were going on, especially in Asian regions (which doesn't really affect us).
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The Horde is like 60% edgelord zombies in vanilla, who are themselves also a new addition to the Horde and who are explictly called 'allies of convenience' with no true loyalty to the Horde in their intro cinematic. It's just as bad.
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This, so much THIS. Horde needs go back to the roots.
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Blood elves were fine, BC version of them was a disgrace.
They made the male ones a running joke, their entire development and past is forever stumped because they killed off their leader for no real reason, their features are not as strong as they were pre bc, hell, even in the BC box art you see a grizzled old blood elf.
Mana hungry rune scarred blood elves would fit perfectly with the horde but blizz dropped the ball hard on them and you got a mix of horde characteristics with alliance image because they didn't went the full mile and made them how they were supposed to be.
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Yes! Make Azeroth-gnomes Great Again 😊😊😊
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All the posts today have finally made it click that it's actually real. Can't wait to watch people play the demo!
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Pay $50....Watch people play an extremely limited Demo...
Meh, Same thing
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Pay $0 watch on youtube
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Wait, what? I've been out for some time and last time I heard anything about classic from Blizz was "we'll try to do it", and now out of a sudden we have a demo? What year is this?
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Basically they have a Westfall/Barrens demo of Classic at Blizzcon. If you have a vticket you can dl it at home w/ some of the same restrictions as Blizzcon folks.
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It’s coming home
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OP also says:
The new (and old) models are currently in the game files as well.
This could mean nothing of course.
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Well its on the live client, and they've been saying that there just going to disable the features that aren't suppose to be there and then build a new front end UI over it.
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Well I sure as hell hope they rebuilt the world too so it isn't post-cata map.
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Oh I'm sure we'll be getting the Cataclysm zones on classic. /s
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Makes me very happy. I do miss the old models.
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Better than retail by far lets be real boys, and this is truly how I feel. I'm not just saying that.
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Definitely. I prefer the art style as well!
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Rofl.
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At least you can change graphics to look more accurately like vanilla.
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All I see is how fucking godawful the old models were. Hated them from day one. Option for new models plssss
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stfu and go find something better to complain about
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I think who gives a fuck
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What is up with the lightning?
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Seems like there were some better shadow settings active for that screenshot than were available in original vanilla.
There are a few posts about the settings available for the demo client already (#1, #2). It's basically some improved graphics settings with an option to click a "Classic Button" which according to MMO-Champion fulfills the following function:
There is a 'Classic' button in the Video Settings that sets all of the sliders to the levels that were equivalent to the options available in the 2004 version of the game.
Notable though that those new settings are not full on retail graphics settings as stuff like the viewing distance is missing.
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I think you mean lighting. Lightning is what comes from thunderstorms and shamans :)
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This is great!!!!
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WOW CLASSIC IS ACTUALLY WOW CLASSIC <- every post about this for the next weeks up until blizzcon.
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Considering that there were a few people that worried about the old models not being in this new version of WoW Vanilla/Classic, it's good to have some kind of confirmation, even though most of us were sure they were included (or even the only option).
Besides that, it's nice to finally have some more news about Classic, even if it's just stuff, we all assumed to be true anyways.
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I'm not looking forward to all the fame-hungry people on youtube who will make endless videos about a single screenshot.
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Then don't watch them? I've been following Classic news since the announcement and literally my entire experience with these youtubers is people on this subreddit complaining about them.
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It's still annoying since the youtube algorithm is gonna see that I saw a video on classic WoW once by my favorite wow youtuber (madseason or Nobbel, although Nobbel is 99% lore videos) and then suggest to me a million videos saying almost the exact same thing.
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That doesn't stop them from advertising their trash all over this place. I never bought gold from a gold seller, but I still see their spammy advertisements.
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Charcater models/running animations were a worry of mine. I was going to be pretty bummed if they weren’t exactly what they were back then.
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hooman still has those beady fuckin eyes!
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Oh boy, here we go.
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Nice. I wonder how big of an impact the new client will have on the experience. The first time I tried Vanilla it looked completely off, like the whole world was warped, but I quickly got used to it. Could've been the lack of widescreen support, or shaders, I don't know, but it looked off.
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Give me that old time gold time baby!
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Just seeing this makes me so happy
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It looks fucking terrible. I love it.
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this is the best comment I ever read in this sub :joy: