My Q is a really wonderful person

I never see anything about nice Qs. They’re always violent or nasty. Mine isn’t. They’re kind and wonderful, but I lose them after they start drinking every day. We have conversations they can’t remember. They forget to do things they promised. They get messy at get togethers. This person feels like my soul mate. But I don’t think I can live with this and be healthy. They have no desire to fix the issue, though they admit they have a problem. We went to therapy once and they don’t want to go again. Has anyone had a good experience living with a Q? Has anyone left but remained in contact in a positive way?

Posted Dec 30, 2018, 3:09 PM UTC

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napsatthezoo•

In my experience, The problem is the progressive nature of the disease. My husband is the most amazing person I have ever met. Kind, generous, engaging and loving. He still is, despite years of drug addiction. However, things have gotten worse. If you asked me four years ago if I would ever feel afraid of him, I would have been horrified to even imagine that. And yet that time finally came this year. Still no violence, but for the first time the feeling of a threat. He is in rehab now, again. And things are good at the moment. But as I watch this disease progress, I know that there is no future for us in any future relapse. Every time it gets worse. Watching it take the loving man I know is the most heartbreaking part. My sponsor has educated me many times on the progressive nature of this disease, and I always heard it about it in meetings, but until I started seeing the progression in my spouse I did not understand it. It’s real.

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simpletriskellOP•

Thank you. I feel so ungrateful sometimes, because they really are wonderful, except for this one (huge) thing. I know they’re trying to work on it on their own, but they don’t want to stop, and I’m horribly anxious even when they’ve cut back, because it never sticks. I have to end the relationship because it’s unhealthy for me, but I want to have some relationship, and I don’t know what’s possible, or advisable. I’m sorry you’re going through this. It is so hard. :/

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barbberg1898•

I completely agree with your progressive comment. My husband had been sober for more than a decade when we met and fell in love. Then a year or two into our relationship he started drinking again, thinking he could just drink in moderation like me and have a glass of wine with dinner once a week or so. Unfortunately that’s not how the disease works. Took another year or two for him to get up to the case of beer/day he was last at.

And all that time he was lovely. He only drank at home, was never hurtful or mean. I actually really liked drunk him; he was always more open and honest and sweet to me. But it progresses and progresses and eventually the alcohol just took him away from us.

Like your Q, he became very forgetful - remembered no conversation he had after 5 pm. I was the one that had to do everything for our family because starting at 4 or 5 everyday his focus was on drinking and not with us. I became incredibly resentful at his selfishness and it’s messed up our kids pretty badly.

He finally quit earlier this month but recovery is clearly going to be a very long road. I’ve stayed because I love him and know what a wonderful person he is beneath all of the bs addiction. But if I could turn back the clock, and know what I know now when we were at the beginning, I’d walk away. As harsh and as awful as that may sound, I would walk away in a heartbeat. Life and marriage is hard enough without dealing with this. Truly it is. Loving an alcoholic is an incredibly difficult life that I wouldn’t wish on anyone.

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sullyv7•

My q was a wonderful man, loving, kind, present. Until he wasn’t. He did me the favour of leaving me, which i don’t know that I would of had the strength to do on my own. I watched his addiction progress at an alarming rate to the point where looking at him... I saw nothing, it was like the light went out behind his eyes. He left me two weeks after I found out my father was dying, that was 4 months ago... haven’t heard from him since, will likely never hear from him again.

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simpletriskellOP•

I’m so sorry. :(

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kate_innate•

If you go to alanon meetings, I bet you will at some point hear “we learned we could be happy whether the alcoholic is drinking, or not”. In my experience, this is true, and it required working a program of recovery, eg steps, meetings, and sponsorship, before I was able to experience it.

Try watching what the alcoholic does, rather than listening to what they’re saying, even if they are saying nice things.

If you’re talking to them when they are drunk, try picturing that you’re talking to a big bottle instead, it is effectively the same much of the time, often especially so when it comes to matters of importance.

Many alcoholics are perfectly lovely people, however when acting out in their disease their behavior changes. It is the fact that they are lovely people that makes us stick around, not their bad behavior.

Remember that alcoholism is a family disease, affecting not only the drunk, but those around them, especially those who are close. The disease shows up in many and varied ways, and sounds like it’s showing up for you in the form of sweet talking.

Sounds like you could use more help knowing when you are interfacing with the disease, and you could use a few more tools for negotiating your way through those times.

The disease can be baffling, and is ultimately deadly. It doesn’t care if you die from the drink, or the stress of living with the drink. Try more meetings, it could save your life.

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msbeddoes•

There are lots of wonderful people in the world. I remind myself that I do not have to date or even been friends with someone just because they have wonderful qualities. I get to make decisions based on what is best for me, not what I think someone else deserves.

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RaquelWelchWig•

You're not alone here. My Q is also a truly great person. He's a good son, a devoted and gentle partner, a loyal brother and friend. He's also an alcoholic. It's hard to marry those two images for me sometimes, but as someone else mentioned it is a progressive and terrifying disease. I'm so grateful that we are both committed to our own journeys of recovery so that those things I love about him don't disappear into a handle of vodka each day.

Your person doesn't have to be mean or vicious to be unhealthy. And we all deserve healthy people in our life. We all deserve people in our lives who want to commit to a healthier future in every aspect of their wellbeing. And mostly we deserve to make that commitment to ourselves. 💗

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simpletriskellOP•

Thank you. You say that with such love, I really appreciate it. I want to be a healthy person in their life - but to do that I need some distance, I think.

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meuram_beizam•

My Q is the love of my life. He also is capable of taking my life and dragging me down. I made the mistake of excusing the bad because the good is so damn fucking ahhhmazing.

Addiction didn't care how good he is/was/aspires to be. It only cares about the next fix.

We all love/loved our Qs if we didn't we would not be here.

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simpletriskellOP•

I’m sorry. It’s so hard watching a disease drag them down when we see so much promise.

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alanonamouse•

My Q has been sober for 1 month now - so things are good at the moment.

A couple of months ago, it was shit. Drinking at work, passing out, regular hospital trips. Turning point for her just over a month ago - tldr; Q ended up in hospital for a few days, she wanted to quit drinking and got help. Now on a abstinence program and regular contact with a key-working + support groups. Almost a different person now...

I'm sure they'll still be hurdles, but staying positive for now x

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simpletriskellOP•

That’s really wonderful, I’m glad things are looking good for you both.

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eclipsed419•

I’m new to this sub.. what does Q stand for? (I mean I can extrapolate what it MEANS but I’m just wondering what it’s short for)

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Sean_O_NeaganYou're going to need a bigger boat•

The qualification you need to be welcome at AlAnon is that someone else's [drinking] is bothering you. The person you love who is the drinker is therefore your "qualifier".

It's not official AlAnon language, btw. Once we come around this programme and attend a few meetings, etc, we generally gain a new perspective on the situation and discover that our problems are largely ours to solve - we are our own qualifiers. I prefer to refer to mine as my "loved one".

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simpletriskellOP•

I’m new, too. It seems to mean ‘qualifier’.

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fayedaway•

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