Dick, be careful! Warski and Ralph might try to hold your integrity hostage and force you to hate Sargon!
Posted Jan 25, 2019, 9:56 PM UTC
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People spend far too much time on this meaningless, autistic, quasi-e-celeb drama.
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The Jim vs Sargon Drama, According to:
Jim's Side: A scathing takedown of a self-destructive buffoon who got too big for his britches before he destroys everything and everybody around him.
Sargon's Side: A stand against a dead-end bully who makes a living out of harassing and humiliating those below them in the social ladder, who won't stop going after people trying to enact genuine change.
Outsider's side: Two hopped up C-List E-Celebs trying to beat eachother in a pissing contest, both pretending to be le ebin troll against eachother when they're both clearly very very mad.
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You forgot the part where Sargon threw a baseless accusation of pedophilia at Jim and then backpedalled into saying he's a child groomer. EDIT: Dude, why the fuck shouldn't they be mad? Sargon got completely humiliated and has been alienating his fanbase since the pedo accusation and Jim has every right to react angrily to an accusation like that.
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Don't forget that Sargon also posted Jim's dox and then claimed he didn't.
And that Sargon laughed at Ralph being deplatformed from YouTube but cried when he got deplatformed.
Dude doesn't want to actually change anything, he just wants to feel important. That's why he said that retarded "two degrees from Trump" shit.
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He started with the child groomer bit from the start, it came across as a pedophilia accusation because Sargon is an autist and he doesn't think how people will interpret the shit that he says.
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People have been banging on about that for twenty centuries, even if I had "forgotten", people wouldn't let me.
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If you think Sargon's intent was anything other than insinuating that Jim is a pedophile then you're retarded.
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Is that not what we do though
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We also have banging tunes.
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Mundane Fatt is the funniest nickname second only to Chunk Yogurt. Change my mind.
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Shall I introduce you to the Shaun King nicknames.
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Man KiA used to be a half decent sub that had a purpose but the further from Gamergate we get the more it's turning into a shit hole full of autists that rabidly obsess over pointless shit. At least with Gamergate there was a legitimate reason for the outrage.
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I'm embarrassed that I used to ever post there, especially seeing as now they bring up how 'loli porn isn't wrong' all the time.
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Other than their talking points, there's no difference between KiA and the old sjws they used to bash.
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Accurate flair
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So you like fake news eh? I bet you read the Huffington Post and the New York Times.
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Context: This is from a thread in KotakuInAction, the GamerGate subreddit.
The subreddit almost wholly supports Sargon and a group called the Honey Badgers, two people that Jim/Metokur have gone up against.
The Honey Badgers are an MRA group mostly based in Canada. They really really like their crowdfunding for stuff like refrigerators, beds and I think even a house at one point. I don't know, Jim explains it further in a video.
Within the context of KiA, they shill repeated for a lawsuit they've been involved with since 2014/2015 when they got removed from a nerd convention called Calgary Expo. They keep coming to KiA for more money and spend that money on legal advice from a disbarred lawyer. (To be fair, it seems he made political enemies that lead to this and isn't a LanDUI, but it still doesn't look good.)
Jim got into a fight with DoctorRandomerCam, a YTer and Honey Badger over Jim's Ross series (about a pervert) who may actually be mentally challenged and autistic. He got really upset with Jim's usage of either "retard" or "autistic" I'm not sure which, watch the video, and Jim called out the "Money Badgers" back when he was on the Kumite. This lead to Allison, of the Badgers, to go on the Kumite without a clue and tried to shill their brand. Karen Straughn, another Badger and more renowned for her MRA speaking, got into a drunken fit on Twitter and did a YT video, which is why Jim did his video.
RandomerCam himself has some mental disability. As I understand it, while he can make videos, he's not very good face to face and tends to spend social gatherings getting drunk quietly in a corner.
Sargon's beef is more well known. Sargon tried to pivot from YT to politics. Jim said this is exceptional and will fail. A few months later, Sargon is with UKIP (UK Independence Party, which has had no consistent messaging since Brexit win) and went to the EU to speak about Article 13 (EU copyright laws to ban memery).
Sargon had Veeh, his Romanian Carrier Pigeon, send Jim a message about how he's wearing a suit (for real) and how he was involved in "pan-European politics."
So Sargon did a stream where he "exposed" Jim's history as a member of a troll website and referred to Jim as an old man who "groomed" young boys into Internet trolls. The attempt to conflate with something more obvious is there.
Jim did a response stream and laughed again and then went hard at Sargon and the "Skeptics" of YouTube.
Soon after Sargon's star rose enough to be at the EU, articles came up addressing controversial things he said online and the UKIP had to muzzle him. Sargon was, until the Patreon incident (which is his fault), been trying to still pivot into politics because he knows YouTube is a dead-end.
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GamerGate subreddit
That's extremely faggy
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I posted criticism of the Money Badgers always wanting more money from fans, hiring disbarred lawyers etc and this guy spazzed out posting inane, rambling walls of text whilst entirely missing the point.
Anyway yeah KiA is mega-gay
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Excellent recap. I was wondering why they were ball gargling Quarter Pounder so hard, but knowing its KiA it makes perfect sense. Gotta defend the Dear Leaders of the Septic Cult to own the libs.
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Admittedly, I'm in that thread getting downvoted to hell, especially when I call someone delusional for thinking Jim's jealous of Sargon's growing "influence."
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You forgot the part where one day Jim went on Veeh's stream and started raving like a madman about how he was going to destroy the sceptics, because he is much better than then, and he's not afraid to cover himself in shit, before the next sunday making a stream that promised to uncover the secret that Sargon and Veeh were engaged in ops to deplatform and dox him and his friends, when 90% of it was going over the old Kraut drama and the last 10% was "I have more growth than you Sargon".
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Seems like a blip on the radar compared to the idiotic stuff that Sargon has done.
EDIT: I'll just end this saying that if you need to jump to a baseless pedophilia accusation, you're probably not winning the argument.
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Just saying, people keep acting like this conflict is one-sided, when it's not. It just bothers me how people act like Sargon is this cult leader when Jim seems to have just as much of a cult of personality around him as well.
Is Sargon more in the wrong here? Likely, very likely. Is he the only one acting like a retard? No.
Personally I wish they would just leave eachother the fuck alone because this is beyond fucking retarded and not what I watch either of them for.
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No one on the history of anything ever has ever said that Jim isn't doing petty bullshit. Everyone knows he goes around poking hornet's nests for fun.
But please, keep being a bOtH sIdEs ArE bAd cuck
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The issue is that Jim is straight out of mid 00s 4chan. When gamer gate broke he jumped right in and did his thing. His videos really were some of the best introductions and calls to action of the period. The image board and troll culture he came from however is different than the current mainstream internet. It centers around ideas and content more than personalities and leaders. Whenever people would ask Jim whats next or call him a leader he would say whatever you are good at do, I am good at making videos so that is what I am doing.
At some point however it was getting stale. A few personalities and writers were taking over and the front was slowing down. Jim mentioned this on several streams before the one with Jade. Honestly I think he largely blamed Sargon and some of the skeptic clique for this, but he wasn't talking shit on them openly at the time. After the thing with Jade it just wasn't fun anymore and lord knows he did as much for the cause as anyone so he did what he had done several times before and fucked off into the ether.
For Sargon however this seems like a betrayal. One of the big names of the push had more or less disappeared overnight. He even said on a few streams afterward that Jim was supposed to be the leader. So there is this resentment at being abandoned and a resentment that the guy who would have probably ended up higher in the clique than him just more or less tossed it away as uninteresting.
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Ross is still a fucking pedophile.
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Yeah patreon totally should be allowed to ban people from their site because they say something they don't like. freedom of speech doesn't equal freedom of consequences lol
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I got shit on so hard for saying negative things about KIA a while ago, even TDS's own aciou got extremely butthurt. Glad to know I was right.
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You didn't get shit on for saying negative things about KIA, you got shit on for being a fucking retard.
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Okay, explain how I was being a "fucking retard"
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sargon a shit
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Tonka's father was convicted of molesting a child.
There's a massive difference between photoshopped chat logs trying to frame someone as being a pedophile and being a convicted pedophile.
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Sounds like this guy better rev up a lolsuit to sue these guys for inciting harassment mobs.
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We're already looking for a new Tonka? The shit just happened like a week ago
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Needs those subtitles from South Park: "THIS IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE"
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"the cult of jim" is the one of the best parts of society. It keeps everyone humble and honest, lest you catch their attention and get mocked to death.
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GODDAMMIT! I'm sorry for swearing. It's normally against my code of personal ethics, but I just can't hold this back anymore! My voice must be heard! I've listened to Dick be a character for a plural of years now, so I think I can confidently say that I know him pretty well on a personal level at least. Dick getting involved with these, these rabble-rousers (!) has destroyed any credibility he's built with the alt-right over the years. If Ralph hadn't gotten to Dick first, I just know that he and Sargon would be great friends and go on each others streams all the time. DAMMIT! Andy Warski must have been masterminding this whole messed up thing for months. If I could just get in Dick's house and explain to him that Ralph and especially that guy from Australia and everyone in that SWAMP are toxic individuals, and things could get back on track to being the way they should be. I'm ending my comment now, because I'm sleepy.
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Is this what they call a gay op?
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The gay ops are eternal.
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Oh we like Sargon now? Interesting.
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I don't, but it's not because people are forcing me not to like him.
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Ok, just find it weird that Dick likes Sargon now.
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We do seem to love e-drama, but then again I stopped reading after that
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We already found a new Tonka, Ian Mile Chungus. Don't worry though, we'll drag Sargon back into once we're bored again.
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Chungus is a rehash. Even if he's doing new shit it's just the same shit he was always doing.
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Jim's fans are pretty shitty, and Ralph is a pretty big hypocrite for the mundane matt thing since, he does the same shit as him.
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TIL Ralph flags people's channels
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If I’m not mistaken he did it live on stream?
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Well since you said it that must be true! I will listen and believe you.
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I asked a question. Let’s not get defensive.
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Ralph is a pretty shitty person. I mostly only remember shit from gamergate, but he seems like he cares more about attention and drama.
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I can't hate on this take, honestly. It does feel like everyone has to kiss those internet drama reporters' asses because they're the cool kids at the moment. Well, the youtube skeptics used to be the cool kids at one point too, let's hope the drama reporters share the same fate soon.
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the youtube skeptics used to be the cool kids at one point too
Oh, so you agree with this take because you're a fanboy of someone getting made fun of. It's not about "cool kids", the youtube skeptics have always been faggots and if you've changed your mind about this you are the only one riding a bandwagon.
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No, I always thought the skeptics thought way to highly of themselves and were worshipped to ridiculous levels by their fans, and the same thing goes for the drama reporters.
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This is fiction, not reality. If you honestly believe Dick has lost his integrity then you need to reevaluate what you think integrity is.
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Who is this?
I gave both Tonka and Sargon the advice I would have followed in their place.
A nobody on KiA. I've seen a lot of versions of these shenanigans written and rewritten but this was the most hilarious version I'd seen to date.
KiA is full of Sargon and Quartering dick hangers for some reason.
A thread about the Ian Miles Cheong / Andy Warski / TheQuartering thing you talked about last night with Hype Break and Hambly's crowdfunded website.
https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/ajo2d8/drama_hype_break_channel_being_retaken_by_andy/
They hate the people in Internet Bloodsports because they go against the Cult of Sargon and his capos.
I like The Quartering. I defended his new website last night, but I could be wrong.
But you don't dunk on Metokur, their hated enemy.
I teased him for letting Jade vote.
if you actually read the post it actually points out a few grievances beyond DEY HAET SARGON