Just, IDK, don't drink every night, maybe?

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So my husband is great in a lot of ways. But he drinks. A lot.

Not every night, but most. He quits for a month now and then, usually before his physical. He doesn't get DTs, he goes to work, never drives it he's had a sip, but man, he drinks. A lot.

And I hate it. I hate that every day after 4:30 he reeks of boxed wine and cider. I hate that I need to drive every where in the evening, especially since I have poor night vision. I hate that his mood goes from jolly and wreckless to touchy and irritable to passed out and I have to make dinner, get the kids in bed and manage his drunk ass.

I hate that he doesn't remember it the way I do the next day and is pissed that I'm anxious and bitchy and making a big deal out of nothing. I feel so lonely.

It really isn't so bad, in the light of some of the stuff I see other people put up with, but man, some days I wish I had that abortion and left.

Posted Mar 7, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

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Do_It_I_Dare_ya•

This is Alcoholism. This is incredibly unhealthy for him physically, and you mentally. This has to change. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS. You deserve a partner in life, not another person to tend to. Don't put up with this.

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whatimOP•

Apparently his doctor is not concerned, because of no DTs/cravings and no day drinking. One NP got in his grill and gave him the quiz for AUD, but he really doesn't score very high on the negatives - he only had a 3 and the threshold was a 5.

I told him I wanted him to get help, last night. But I've been there before and he never does. He just quits for a month to prove I'm making a big deal over nothing. I wish he would understand that I'm not trying to make him miserable.

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Insidevoiceplease•

The thing is, you get to have things that are deal breakers for you. It took me a long time to realize that telling my husband 'I am not okay with being married to someone who is drinking every damn day' wasn't me being a controlling ass, it was me being open about what I'm willing to accept. Its not about whether he can or cannot quit, it's about what I'm willing to put up with in my marriage.

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AbhorrentTorrent•

I asked my so to go to alcohol reliance therapy for less than what your husband drinks. I feel your pain having to manage him when he is drunk, I hope that he does seek help because even though he's not reliant, it is causing problems in his life

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KathPow•

I'm sorry you're going through that, bromo.

You know, I have found that, through the experience of surviving a few terrible life choices, if your thoughts on something include a mantra of "I know it's not that bad compared to x, y, or z," it's bad enough that it needs to be addressed anyway.

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superfucky•

honey you're not competing for a medal in the misery olympics. your problem doesn't have to be worse than anyone else's for it to still be a problem and a big deal. it's not nothing. he honestly sounds alcoholic, if he's getting black-out drunk most nights of the week. being able to quit temporarily for a short period doesn't make it not alcoholism (hell, "i can quit anytime!" is practically the slogan of alcoholics avoiding AA). he's disrupting your mental health, he's putting your physical safety at risk making you drive with poor vision, he's putting HIS physical health at risk.

i second the suggestion to try recording him - maybe set up a nanny cam so it's not like "this is going viral on worldstar!" type footage, just "an objective viewpoint on your behavior every evening." i mean the fact he doesn't remember what he did the night before is a red flag in itself. but he can't get help until he accepts that he has a problem, that it isn't normal or healthy or safe to get drunk every night.

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gimme_cheese•

Hi, are you me?

I have the same issues with my husband.

It’s likely alcoholism. If alcohol causing issues in any aspect of his life (your relationship), it’s a problem. I highly suggest checking out r/alanon and hitting up an al anon meeting in your area. It saved my sanity. Well, al anon, therapy, and cbd saved my sanity; but al anon helped A LOT!

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whatimOP•

Maybe I do need to go to a meeting.

My husband (and his family) drink heavily, but no one is 'an alcoholic' they just all drink too much.

My mom hardly drank, but when she did - it was murder. Completely shit-faced, combative, crashed the car, got in fights, fell down the stairs.

I went to meetings as a teenager, because my mom was destructive. My husband says he drinks like normal people, I just don't have a good baseline for normal. Maybe I don't, but this doesn't seem right, either.

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gimme_cheese•

You sound more and more like me. I didn’t have a good baseline either.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. As much as I love having a drink & a good time, I absolutely hate what alcohol has done to people I love.

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whatimOP•

Its weird for me, because I do like to drink!

I like cocktails and fancy microbrewery offerings and all that. I just never would sit and get drunk, you know? I don't like being drunk, I like enjoying booze. To me, drinking until drunk is like eating until you puke. Why do it?

I don't drink anymore because I feel like we do need a sober adult in the house and I don't get the joy that he does from getting sloshed, so I save the calories.

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MadamNerdHOT DAMN, SHE IS FINALLY POTTY TRAINED!•

Having a glass of wine or a beer to unwind in the evenings is one thing. But it sounds like he is doing way more than that and when it negatively affects your family like that, it's a legitimate problem and you shouldn't have to "put up with it." Maybe you could record the way he acts one night and show it back to him the next day.

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whatimOP•

Yeah, he doesn't really enjoy himself until 3-4 drinks in, which puts him right on the line between ruddy faced and chatty and passed out on the couch snoring.

Maybe I do need to record it. He never believes me when I tell him what he did, just blames my anxiety/PTSD (My mother was an alcoholic) for remembering it wrong or making a big deal out of nothing.

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Icameheretopoop•

Wow, he’s literally gaslighting you here by trying to make you believe that you’re just crazy. It’s sad that it has to come down to you recording him.

I would say my husband drinks enough to cause problems maybe 2-3x per month, and I probably owe him for times he’s taken care of me drunk, so it’s not really a relationship problem. I drink most evenings too, but I don’t fall asleep on the couch and miss out on time with our son because of it.

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whatimOP•

Well, he's got grounds for doubt.

I've had flash backs to the point of hallucinating due to PTSD from my childhood. Not so much recently ( due to therapy and meds) . But he remembers when I would freak out and dissociate, so when our memories don't line up, he figures I got anxious because he was drinking and had a mental break.

It's so frustrating, because I had to be convinced when I was sick to get help and admit to the hallucinations. Now I'm told I can't be trusted, because I admit I had hallucinations.

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louloubanou•

Hi. I'm a mom and an alcoholic. Only been recovered a little over a year. A so stereotypical it's sad story of mommy wine o'clock turning into mommy vodka o'clock. I am not trying to hijack your thread, I'm sharing my experience because it might help you in your planning process.

I worked all day and did most of the home stuff in the evenings. I know it sounds crazy but it wasn't unusual for me to get blackout drunk and do the dishes and laundry. I felt very justified because I was working my ass off. And because I was an active addict and justifying is what we do. I knew I should quit but the desire to not stop drinking is so, so strong. As I started drinking more every evening, I tried to ignore the fall-out and so did my husband. As I started passing out every evening my husband kind of talk to me about cutting back. So I started sneak drinking. Then my husband tried to encourage me to quit drinking and we did a kind of a don't ask don't tell thing, where we didn't talk about drinking and I pretended I wasn't drunk and would gas light my husband every time he questioned me, which was rarely. Because he didn't know what to say. Because I was lying to him and he couldn't tell truth from fiction.

Eventually, the morning after a bad night, my husband (who is one of the most compassionate people I have ever known), told me he felt like 'beating the shit out of' me the night before. It wasn't a threat, in fact he was tearful because he felt so bad about it, but he was letting me know how far I had pushed him. Everyone's wake-up call is different but for me, that shocked me enough to get the moment of clarity I needed to understand that I had to choose to get help and recover or lose my family.

I would never have quit on my own. If my husband was willing to ignore it most of the time I would still be drinking today . Being a functional alcoholic made it very easy to tell myself I deserved a break and keep drinking. But, if I had kept drinking, I would have gotten worse. Because 'they' say that is usually how it goes and since I worked my way from two glasses of wine to a pint of vodka most evenings, well, I believe them.

I don't think it is a bad idea to record your husband as you mentioned in a different response. Being confronted with ourselves when we are drunk and gross is so devastating to the story we tell ourselves that we're not hurting anyone or that we're really not that drunk.

I wish you the best of luck in addressing the situation as you see fit ❤

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EffectiveRecord•

Omg- are you me? Except mine reeks of whiskey.

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Sneevius•

I’m sorry you’re going through this! I second al-anon. You can’t make him want to change. Nothing is going to convince him except consequences in his life, like you moving out or divorcing him. Losing one’s job tends to be far down on the list of consequences for men, they usually can keep it together there best and their first consequences will come from their private lives. His addiction will make him lie to you, gaslight you, make you feel crazy. Your feelings are valid! Your experience is valid! His drinking is NOT normal.

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atworkkit•

Al anon. It’s not for him, it’s for you. Stopping drinking every now and then is part of the alcoholic ritual of proving that you aren’t an alcoholic. My dad drank until he lost his family. Please start addressing this now, at least for yourself and for your baby.

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ennuimachine•

There are too many “almost alcoholics” in my life. Their behavior can be just as destructive as s true alcoholic’s. I just found out about this book. You may want to check it out: https://www.hazelden.org/web/public/almost_alcoholic.page

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