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No one bullied her off reddit, she deleted her account because she made the mistake of using her /gonewild/ account with a picture of her face; I wouldn't want my face exposed like that either.
My personal opinion is that this is blatant attention-whoring and I couldn't give two shits about the whole thread, I'd downvote and move on, but if you really care enough to maximize her exposure in order to White Knight her in a subtle way, you don't look too good yourself.
She deleted her account because she made a mistake, no one bullied her off, I saw no actual bully posts even in the pits of that thread, they were mostly admiration posts.
The only tragic thing I see happening here today is another redditor subtly White Knighting + a self deprecation in a serious tone; a violent concoction for stirring up reddit comments yourself.
The funniest part about this is the White Knight posted a picture of her face and let everyone know she posted nude pics. The original mistake was in an obscure thread, this is on top of the front page. OP made sure everyone knows the girl above has posted nude pics.
Wow. That makes him a dick doesn't it?
A White Dick.
I'm pretty sure this is a teacher of mine. I'm also pretty sure i'm not the only one in my big lecture that reads reddit. OP has now ensured at least one of us in her class have seen the pic. No good.
So, not much of one then?
To the last I grapple with thee, from hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.
The Moby Dick of White Dicks
preety racist, huh?
Black Wolf/White Dick
Moby Dick
James Gordon Jr.: Why're we upvoting him, Dad?
Lt. James Gordon: Because we have to acknowledge him.
James Gordon Jr.: He didn't do anything.
Lt. James Gordon: Because he's not the hero Reddit deserves, and not the one it needs right now. So we'll upvote him because he wants it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent hypocrite, a watchful predator. A White Dick.
Moby Dick?
oh god, that's the worst kind
"I'm looking for a white.... Wang!"
"You're looking for a white wang?!"
How ironic.
I need to see these "Nude pics" before I can properly condescend.
Pretty girl. Hope she's not too broken up about the whole thing.
If I ever run into her in the outside world, i'll try to pretend like I don't already know what her asshole looks like, even though I really do know what her asshole looks like. Though It would be hard not to just blurt out, "YOU HAVE A REALLY NICE ASSHOLE!!!"
Hott!
This isn't working. Where are these pics?!
Streisand effect?
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It's like tripping a thief who just grabbed a woman's purse, except instead of tripping the thief, you are actually the guy stealing it.
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I came into this post sincerely hoping that the OP wouldn't actually link anything, but I was very disappointed to see that he did.
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Agreed. One of my first reactions was something along the lines of, "hey, she's kinda cute. I should check the comment thread to see if I can find the GW pics"
Where are these pics anyway? I couldn't find them
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By and large, Reddit is a marvelous community full of friendly and insightful people. I get PMs regularly from appreciative, friendly folks and have had countless thousands of thought-provoking, lively discussions here. Hell, a dude who I said "you're wasting your time" (in film school) sent me his script for critique and I was more than happy to help. that's the kind of site this place is. However, every once in a while, I get something like this:
Hello kleinbl00.
I'm just a general lurker, mostly, who friend-ed you a year or two ago based on some posts you made that were interesting. I'm the person “you write for” to quote something you said I rather liked. This befriending was before you disappeared for a while, if you recall these events. Your posts always stand out since you were friend-ed (but also largely because they were up-voted I suppose). So I've kleind of always noticed what you've had to say.
Partly by accident of course, but also from that initial curiosity, I've been developing what exactly your character is in my mind. It's just been a byproduct in a way of seeing you from time to time over the ages. What's really begun to bother me though is my intuition. Yes it's my intuition. I'm not entirely certain what part of my intuition it is. There are many parts of my intuition and they are not discrete so there is a kind of blending. Plenty of blending. Blending aside though, its this intuition that's really been bothering me.
You see; I feel that in this character you have built, or perhaps that I have built for you from your bricks cast aside, there is some fundamental lie at its very core. Some deception, some deceit, somewhere. Some wicked smelting at the foundation, you might say. I really can't say for sure what that might be. The only certain aspect I have is that it is there. There's some axiom you've taken with this character that is unfounded. I really don't think it is any one single action or characteristic- although I suppose to be fair I shouldn't rule that out. My intuition hasn't explained as much to me as of yet. So there is a doubt, too, of this intuition. Call it rationality if you will.
Anyways, it's this cursed intuition that's been bothering me. I've considered going back and reading everything you've written to perhaps piece together what it might be. That's not very attractive to me though. I've also considered heading to Turkey, or as far as the Amazon, and seeing what the Mechanics there might have to say on the topic, but, before doing that much... oh; well. I figured that it's your words I'd be reading anyways so... oh. Oh; maybe I could just contract you for some more of them.
What is it? Where is this calamity I am so uncertainly certain of?
A clue; perhaps?
Coffee; perhaps?
Now, this is probably harmless. It's a little creepy, but not too bad. It in no way reflects the general vibe I get from Reddit at large. But in case anyone was wondering why I deleted all my posts (what I thought was all; as it turns out, you can only delete 6 months back) and went silent for 4 months, it's because 4 things happened in a 24 hour period:
a dude from r/skeptic publicly threatened my wife's life.
someone anonymous sent me an email on one of my personal accounts saying only "are you kleinbl00?"
someone outted me publicly on 2 different subreddits, name, address, website and two emails.
The admins turned all moderators green, landing me a half-dozen downvotes within 10 minutes of posting anything.
So I bailed, pulled down all the personal information I could, and chilled the fuck out for a while. You would, too. In light of the Saydrah fiasco, what with her grandparents getting hassled and tedious, unacceptable shit like that, I'm damn glad I did.
Now - You'll never, ever, EVER see my naked ass on the internet (you're welcome). You will, however, see my wife's naked ass. I posted that on Reddit's IRC channel, someone said "can I submit that?" I said "go to town" and inside 6 months, the photo is being hosted on comedycentral.com. It's a bell you can't unring. My wife thinks it's cool; the girl in the photo is her best friend who loves it to pieces and uses it as her Facebook profile. There was nothing upsetting about that at all. But boy howdy - am I glad I didn't post any of the other more revealing pictures.
So yeah - once you post yourself naked, you're crossing some sort of line. And if you didn't mean to cross that line, or didn't mean to associate it with your face, it would be pretty damn jarring, I imagine. And yeah - by and large, no harm, no foul. But there's 250,000 or so usernames on Reddit, and raldi claims between 3 and 4 million uniques per month. The audience here is bigger than anybody really thinks, and out of 4 million people, there's at least one psycho, probabilistically speaking.
TL;DR: "This is why we can't have nice things." This statement is self-evident, but everyone should remember it. It only takes 1 Mark David Chapman, after all, and if what you're seeing looks vaguely suspect, the stuff you're not seeing might be truly toe-curling.
I made a post to r/gaming that made the top of the front page once. It was a composite image of my facebook status with the last names & faces redacted. I posted it because I consciously thought it was really funny, but deep down I probably just wanted attention—just like everybody else. The attention we get from others is, after all, much of the basis for one's esteem.
In the comments, a few users managed to sleuth out my facebook profile, personal website, my address and even pinpointed the exact location of my apartment (down to the corner of the building) on Google Maps using satellite view. As a result, several people added me on facebook and now I have a handful of interesting new friends. I also received a slew of private comments here on Reddit.
But I'm a dude. And I have guns. And I ain't skeerd. My tits-to-weight ratio is not controversial by Reddit standards and I have my doubts that creepy stalker guys would want to creep in my bedroom window at 3am and rape my face.
I can only imagine the shit storm that CurveGirl must've experienced in her private inbox—the fear and mortification that may have provoked in her.
The Interwebs are a savage place. We internauts must travel it with care.
Internauts. I like that. The rest of what you said is very good as well.
Thanks. I read that word in a comment another Redditor made yesterday and figured I'd start doing my part to spread it around.
I'm not a professional photographer but a picture I submitted to r/pics got me a PM with an offer to buy it. I'm pretty proud of that especially since I suck at photography.
You got sucked in. I've only had a couple of PM's the whole time I've been on here - I learnt years ago not to invest anything much of myself on internet forums; there are cunts all over the place.
Big time. At the same time, I got over 100 PMs when I pulled the plug saying "please don't go."
And I really like this community. I think it's an incredibly special place. I think we all need to understand, however, that even the most perfect of paradises often have poisonous spiders. One must always be careful where one walks and when one hears a girl going "EEK!" there are often reasons we know nothing about.
Sometimes I think I'd like some attention once in a while, the internet is boring as hell when you're mostly talking to yourself, but my god that's a hell of a serial-killer message you've got there. *shudder*
Yep, that's one of the reasons I'm thinking about getting a S/N that's less apparently trackable than this one. Someone once apparently found my myspace and attempted to intimidate me (although google doesn't even turn up my myspace at least for the 10 pages I looked through O_O ). I was like... no one cares. But I had thought I hadn't made any connection between this and my personal-public online profiles.
Just fucking wow, I have never been this glad to have a shitty karma score.
I have conflicting emotions, as while I really understand why you did what you did I cant do the same, my name and ass are on the internets, nothing more though. =) So here is an upvote.
It's times like these I wish I could upvote someone more than once.
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Dude, this thread's not about you.
No, it's about anonymity and our tenuous grip on it. As I can only speak to my own, that's what I did.
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My thoughts exactly. This doesn't strike me as a "Reddit, I am disappoint" moment so much as a "learn2use the internets" moment for the look@me girl.
Most of the people upvoting and commenting in this submission obviously didn't read anything but the sensationalist headline.
This is probably the most accurate post about what happened here. Glad You said it, because the ridiculous circlejerking going on in both this thread and the one he linked is pretty annoying.
The whole White Knight bit is particularly annoying. She's gone, dude. She's not going to come find you and fellate you for being her internet hero and standing up for her honor. You come here on your high horse to tell all of reddit off, when it's really just a few jackasses who rightfully got downvoted already.
She's not going to come find you and fellate you
Don't doubt the powers of the internet, sir.
She's not going to come find you and fellate you
A man can dream can't he?
I heard she was kind of chubby, so it might be worth it for a chance at a high quality blowjob.
It's not about her honor, it's about reddit's integrity. This place doesn't have to be a steaming pile of shit.
when it's really just a few jackasses who rightfully got downvoted already.
It happens every fucking time. How about you contribute and downvote the trolls so they end up at the bottom faster.
exactly! she deleted her account because she used the same one for gonewild and regular redditing. that's not for the faint of heart.
i didn't even see the "fat" comments, I saw the the "nice tits" comments.
This seems like the most likely explanation.
Girl posted nudes on internet. Girl's face is exposed later on, linked to nudes. Girl panics, deletes account.
She probably just didn't want anyone in her offline world knowing about it. Everyone here needs to smoke a blunt and chill out.
Yeah... but sensationalism is so much more fun!
... and White Knighting the only hope for some guys to get some female loving.
I think smoking blunts and chilling is more fun.
I have nudes on the internet. If you are going to stalk me, please don't rape me or pillage my village. That's all I ask.
Well, why don't you just go and ruin stalking for me?
Everyone here needs to smoke a blunt and chill out.
Waaaaaaaay ahead of you.
She exposed her face herself, in a picture of her giving a blowjob. Which is fine, and I'm not judging that, I'm just saying - the "exposed face" thing is unlikely to be the issue.
I like the part where the OP has to protect a girl because he believes she's too weak to protect herself. He's the kind of guy who yells at dudes on the internet for not being fair to girls, not treating them as equals, then sheds a single tear for them when they cry about how a bunch of mean boys bullied them off the internet.
Note the incredibly sexist term "witch hunt". It came up with Saydrah, too. If this would have been a dude, and not a woman of fertile age nobody would care.
I usually redo my account every once in a while. Just for the hell of it. Yehauma, Uteunawaytay, and god knows how many forgotten ones as well...
where the hell is that Nice Guy post from this morning....
CANNOT UPVOTE ENOUGH!
I agree with what you're saying but
The only tragic thing I see happening here today is another redditor subtly White Knighting
Are you saying he's white knighting for the girl? I doubt he knows or cares about her at all. The point is that he is advocating for us to be a community that is not hypocritical. Maybe there are too many kids in the Reddit pool and it's too late to think of this website as a community that can be held responsible for its behavior, but if wanting a better Reddit at large is "white knighting" I will do that all day...
......get off my lawn.
I saw no actual bully posts even in the pits of that thread, they were mostly admiration posts.
Are you daft? There were four or five comments calling her a fat attention whore.
Here's the main problem with Reddit: Everyone here is an attention/approval whore.
What's the purpose of making jokes here, which is what almost everybody does? I doubt this compulsion proceeds from some sort of noble desire to regale others and brighten their days. Each upvote is the tacit equivalent of "You have my attention and approval". This is what a majority of users are striving for. The positive reinforcement of upvotes is the reason why discussion on Reddit has drifted over the years more and more towards joke making and farther away from serious intelligent discussion (jokes draw far more upvotes). Because Reddit's atmosphere has become one in which cheap, lazy, vote-whoring jocularity is more strongly encouraged than thoughtful contribution, Reddit now attracts a rather base contemptible audience of children and childish adults and repulses the mature and sagacious.
The comment karma system as it is has to go.
Great comment. Have a downvote.
"Don't worry about it, Reddit. I'll keep my attention whoring shit off of your site. I suppose I am wrong for wanting to share, and clearly I go about it the wrong way. I wouldn't want to ruin what was apparently once but is no longer a fun, interesting, and sometimes sexual forum with my boobs. Clearly, people like me must be the cause of this so-called decline in content. For the record, I was never in it for the karma. Yes, I loved getting on and seeing comments from people with similar interests who found me beautiful. No, I did not believe there was a damn thing wrong with it. But congratulations, internet, you have scared off yet another decent-looking, semi-intelligent female. I wish you the best of luck in whatever it is the douchey of you are trying to accomplish, and to the rest, thank you for your comments: they make/made me feel good."
He's a Black Wolf, not a White Knight! :D
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What is r/gonewild for other than attention whoring? There is tons of porn out there. No need for redditors to undress just to get some cheers from the horny lonely basement fabbing masses on here.
Some people get off on exhibitionism. It's probably as simple as that - they may get off knowing that someone out there is fapping to them.
I thought you had it right, but now I'm not too sure about that, cause earlier she posted this: http://imgur.com/9P9VA (NSFW)
Not particularly recognizable I guess, but...
I got -150 karma in the other thread for pointing this out. You are a brave man, but I'm glad there are a lot of us that see it for what it was: attention-whoring.
I can't come to bed honey, someone is right on the internet!
Great post.
What annoyed me particularly were the posts bemoaning the misogyny on Reddit, then saying the antidote was the girl and her nice breasts. Good one.
TL;DR - Go fuck yuhself.
Bully Post is here. And as he points out (and links) she has posted gonewild photos that include most of her face in the past. I'm not entirely convinced it was solely the face exposition that did it.
Well spotted.
Except, as has been pointed out,
her face is pretty visible in the pic where she has a cock in her mouth so I'd rule that out.
"she deleted her account because she made the mistake of using her /gonewild/ account with a picture of her face"
You can see her face in her /gonewild/ account too.
But isn't there a picture in there that shows her face where she's sucking a cock? I agree with you, though; it is total attention-whoring and fishing for compliments.
might be samefag masquerading as a white knight.
Edit: Below links are NSFW.
http://www.reddit.com/user/CurveGirl
http://imgur.com/UB7Bi&WjzAP&auiOQ&hCiSM
http://imgur.com/UB7Bi&WjzAP&auiOQ&hCiSMl
http://imgur.com/UB7Bi&WjzAP&auiOQl&hCiSM
http://imgur.com/ODOIX&LrsJm
http://imgur.com/ODOIX&LrsJml
http://imgur.com/ncYOd
http://imgur.com/Aa1Ok
http://imgur.com/hRwKh&Ssnaml
http://imgur.com/hRwKh&Ssnam
http://imgur.com/9P9VA
http://imgur.com/lbbLg&IXKtVl
http://imgur.com/lbbLg&IXKtV
Piling on someone who posts nude photos and admits insecurities is pretty despicable.
That said, if you expect the Internet at large -- the world's biggest coalition of insecure assholes -- to respond with nothing but hugs and puppies to anything you post, and run away crying when some guy calls you fat out of his mom's basement, I wouldn't even call you semi-intelligent. Logging on without a sense of humor is like driving without a seatbelt.
Have we considered that maybe it's because she realized she accidentally linked her face to her nudes that she deleted her account?
Wouldn't posting her nudes here, in effect, be the opposite of what she wants?
her face is pretty visible in the pic where she has a cock in her mouth so I'd rule that out.
Nobody seems to be noticing this small detail.
come on don't short change the guy, he's at least average.
That's the smallest ugliest..
seriously....there are currently 912 comments on this post. frontpage entertainment? no question. actual situation? certainly not.
Horatio Kane over here
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Yea, pretty sure we can cross out semi-intelligent.
her ENTIRE account?
...all of it. The whole fucking thing.
this man (woman) speaks the truth
why do you assume its a shemale?
L O S T
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Because she's an insecure fat girl. Now all the internet white knights need to ride to her rescue.
thank you.
Wait...who is riding who? Where?
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Couldn't agree more. People seem to forget that the people who make up the world at large, are the same people who make up the internet. Guess what, if someone DOESN'T agree with your ideas, looks, etc in the REAL world, then I can guarantee that you will face the same problems on the internet.
The difference? The tools used to condemn a person on the internet are more available to the population. Post a picture online? It could be around the world twice within hours, if you're lucky.
Don't get all high and mighty "Shame on you Reddit" because people express their opinions. I'm not condoning what people said, I'm suggesting that next time, when someone posts pictures of themselves NAKED ON A GLOBAL SITE...They should think twice.
"That said, if you expect the Internet at large -- the world's biggest coalition of insecure assholes -- to respond with nothing but hugs and puppies to anything you post, and run away crying when some guy calls you fat out of his mom's basement, I wouldn't even call you semi-intelligent. Logging on without a sense of humor is like driving without a seatbelt."
^^ This.
I'm coming to this event as an outsider - didn't see the original threads or comment in them.
But if you submit anything into a public community, especially an anonymous one, then you have to be prepared for any response. You could argue "yeah, but show some sensitivity" and to a point - fair enough - but then again, why? What obligates strangers on the internet to be anything but be honest about what they feel?
This is a grey area to be sure. There are idiots out there who'll be unnecessarily rude but on the flip side, we don't have to be nice to someone just because they're a girl or because they get naked, do we? Seriously? That's a form of sexism in and of itself.
What obligates strangers on the internet to be anything but be honest about what they feel?
Maybe the karma system?
we don't have to be nice to someone just because they're a girl or because they get naked, do we?
But we don't have to be assholes either, "If You Have Nothing Nice to Say, Say Nothing At All."
"If You Have Nothing Nice to Say, Say Nothing At All."
"If you having nothing nice to show, show nothing at all"
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The internet as a whole doesn't have a karma system. If you're referring to "life's" karma then... I guess that depends on whether you believe in it or not.
And you're right about not being assholes. That'd be the kinder thing to do. But this kind of silent endorsement - the "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing" approach - it irritates me. It feels like treating people with kid gloves - as if they'll break if everyone doesn't fawn over them and shower them with compliments.
Fact is; if you throw yourself out there, be prepared for any response. Other people on the internet are not there for your benefit or to shower you with compliments and praise. Being honest or less than... "Oh my god you are so beautiful, you are fantastic and so brave etc. etc." ...does not make you a bad person either. People are allowed to say that - and should be allowed to - without being shouted down for it.
just gonna save this for later..
Yup
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Serious, what is the point of that?
The curiosity of those late to the party.
Exactly, leave this poor girl alone.
IJCQYR IS CREDIT TO TEAM
the Internet at large -- the world's biggest coalition of insecure assholes
The Internet needs a gateway, with this carved in stone above it. I'm thinking a nice venetian marble.
ABANDON ALL DIGNITY ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE
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One Man's Heaven is Another Man's Hell
Actually reddit used to not be the Internet at large, but reddit.
Reddit today is the new 4chan. I fucking hate teenagers.
If you find the old Reddit somewhere please let me know. I miss the smart comments I used to be in awe of.
I wish we could find her still and give her a group hug... I hate seeing this done to people.
A group something is definitely in order.
I'll be fapping in a corner while you guys figure it out.
Make sure you get a couple of cousins also to complete that hug.
So she realizes her mistake and doesn't want her blurred face nude pics to be connected to her clearly viewed face. She deletes her account, hopes that's the end of it. Then you post the imgur links to all the pics and cause her frustration to continue as this Reddit hits the front page.
You sir, are the very problem the OP is referring to.
True. But so is the OP.
True, but at least the OP has is making a point. He's also not linking to her nude pics, but just breaking down what happened so that people can be a bit more respectful next time this happens.
Yeah, but he linked to her face. :(
Just pointing this out, but when you post a pic on Imgur, they give you a link to delete that photo. I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, since people can save your pictures and could repost them, but you should really save those deletion links if you are posting sensitive photos.
This is definitely true.
I was wondering about the others. Definitely attractive and with a lucky guy.
I'm so glad I have the inline-image javascript bookmarked, made the only part of this thread I care about easy to find. Thanks, you are my white knight.
That guy getting his swerve on in those pics has a small penis.
Is that a Twilight shirt? Are we sure she's 18? Also, might wanna use some NSFW labels....
my hero
Not a thing wrong with that body.
what the hell is that around the guy's dick? is that his fat gut hanging down around it?
eeeew
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we need something here
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Remind me never to photograph myself with my dangly bits exposed.
Remind me to never photograph myself with my dangly bits exposed, upload the images to a site I don't know how to delete things from, and then link to them on reddit.com right alongside images of my face.
FTFY
No. I'm just gonna be certain, and not photograph myself with my dangly bits exposed. I'm not a risktaker.
Agreed, on both counts.
I dont think she is fat at all. Looks normal to me.
As much as I think it inappropriate for you to spread her pictures like this, I'm kinda glad you did because she's fucking beautiful.
Kids, if you pay attention, you'll spot the Internet White Knight in it's natural habitat.
hawt....want to touch the hiney
Gah, I think we know why she was only showing from the tits up when she showed her face.
wow. the guy she is blowing is fat as fuck. he has a fat pouch.
I see she likes vienna sausages.
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What was the point of posting these? I imagine your thought process was something along the lines of:
"Haha, check this out bitch, I'm going to post these despite you shrinking away. Oh, and I don't want too many downvotes, let me make a sycophantic post making me sound ambivalent about the whole thing."
You're an asshole.
He probably posted them because they were exactly what everyone was scrolling through the comments looking for.
this. I only wish I could have avoided all the white knighting in this thread...yeeesh. OP downvoted for not including NSFW links in the topic.
Yeah, I was really puzzled OP didn't include those pics. OP can make the edit though.
You have it backwards. I originally posted two separate comments, but decided to combine them in the hopes that my comment would get upvoted along with the links.
As far as the pictures, I was curious enough to go through the trouble of finding them, so I figured others would be interested in seeing them too.
As far as the pictures, I was curious enough to go through the trouble of finding them, so I figured others would be interested in seeing them too.
As far as for IJCQYR's personal address and phone number, I was curious enough to go through the trouble of finding them, so I figured others would be interested in seeing them too.
Seriously, you don't see the problem with that? Just because some information can be found with a certain amount of effort doesn't mean it's OK to collect that information and post it in a more public place than where it was before.
You're right. I removed the photo of her face, since that is why she deleted her account in the first place.
who gives a shit. really.
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Or maybe it's because everyone else was curious to see the other pics.
You're arrogant.
I must say that I feel somewhat responsible for this whole kerfuffle. I was the one who posted her user history and encouraged people to check out her gonewild stuff. Too bad. In her short tenure as a redditor she contributed some good stuff to gonewild...In other words: my bad.
Not your fault other people are assholes.
No, dolphins are assholes.
When she first made the post (with like 6 or 7 comments) I was tempted to call her out on being an attention whore but didn't want to be a dick, so I just left without saying anything. There was only one reason she posted that, to get attention. And I do agree, things like that do ruin the community, but, it also makes it fun. There is a weird gray area here where one side will be faux-outraged and the other will be in the camp of whomever is being attacked.
What is wrong with being an "attention whore?"
Drama and it's just plain unattractive..
Except for people with White Knight syndrome.
it creates situations like this.
Remember back to your years in high school. Remember those melodramatic teen-queens? Yup, our fattie is that girl.
Lesson: if you're going to post in /gonewild, use a separate account. The problem is that we have an enormously difficult time in the real world mentally separating a woman's brain from her tits, as if we can only focus on one at the same time. The problem is that we end up judging someone's cute bird and subsequent picture based upon nude shots. If the girl is unattractive, she's discounted. If she is attractive, a certain sexually deprived minority vents their frustration by calling her an attention whore.
It's been said before by someone else, but this is why we can't have nice things, Reddit. And by nice things, I mean "women".
One is reminded, not for the first time, in the irony of people posting "attention whore" to someone they feel is seeking undeserved attention (or whatever mental fumblings are going on inside their heads). My personal 'tactic' is post if I find a topic interesting, or I am insanely bored, if not I move on in silence. If something is unworthy of attention, ignore it and let it die.
Secondly, yes there are hordes of children and grown-ups without a life or any sort of social filter (especially in the context of relatively anonymous internet forums); these people will post stupid, aggressive, self conflicting, irrational comments that might give you nerdrage or a migraine. But the only way to 'win' is to not engage these types of people, and to ignore all the trivial shit that runs out of their mouths or fingers. If you can't ignore this type of thing your internet usage will be filled with pain and suffering, until you yourself is consumed by such frustration and hatred that you find yourself trolling random forums in a desperate attempt to at least connect in someway to someone somewhere.
I was just going to post a similar comment. Trolls are going to troll. That's what they do.
Yeah, but calling someone an attention whore on a site designed pining for acceptance (in the form of upvotes from total strangers) about whatever your opinion or interest is seems to be the height of cognitive dissonance.
The Internet would be no fun at all if everyone behaved like this.
If everyone behaved like the bullies/trolls/morons, or if everyone behaved like Narpak is suggesting they behave? 'Cos I reckon the internet would be twice as awesome if everyone followed Narpak's advice.
Live and let live.
I get plenty of flak for posting from my GW account, but yeah, it means that people will view my posts that gradually begin to count for other things, rather than my main which... Gets zero attention despite interesting posts.
She continued to use her GW account, despite being told of the risks, because it got her more attention.
So, she intentionally used her body to get more attention...
I think that is a pretty fair definition of an attention whore.
I thought you meant Games Workshop when you said GW for a second. Man, I am a nerd.
See, the problem is that God gives men a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to run one at a time
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Thank you, that sentence of hers irked me. I'm personally not surprised people got aggressive after that :|
can't take the heat, get back to the kitchen.
That really doesn't justify any bad behaviour aimed at her.
So she said something that some people didn't agree with. Rather then ignore her, or be content that a couple of other of commentors had jumped in with more negative comments, the scorn was heaped upon her.
I can't help but think that this was because of deep latent misogyny. She is more likely to be targetted because she is showing her sexual side - being a little more vulnerable. So the bitter mob takes any excuse to berate her heavily.
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You were trying to share the joy of boobies. This is not wrong. A bunch of virgins on the internet with no concept of how to deal with woman, and jealous woman who aren't as pretty were the problem here.
Dude, why must we label the people who posted? By stating they were virgins and jealous woman you are in turn just repeating what happened. You don't know who they are or why they posted those comments.
Would you rather he just said "assholes?"
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upvote for "kerfuffle".
Now what on earth makes you think she's gone? She's probably in here commenting on this shit right now. Lord knows I've had a few accounts myself.
She's probably in here commenting on this shit right now.
I've got my eye on you.....
Girls like her are hyper-sensitive. I would imagine shes curled up in her home eating out of a bucket out ice cream with a spoon, never to touch a computer again.
Stop talking about me!
What I dont understand is the neurotic obsession of some people to go expose the history of people. When I comment I honestly don't care what you said or have posted in the past, it just doesn't seem relevant to the current discussion 95% of the time. I am not really blaming you for what happened, but it seems like every week or two some reddit drama witch hunt flares up with people obsessively poking through someones post history to find some meaningless tidbit in order to ruin the posters reputation. There may be cases where its legit, but most the time its just a bunch of shut in neckbeards with nothing better to do
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I noticed in your Reddit history that you post a lot in r/gayanalsex. Can you elaborate?
NECK BEARDS!!!!!
Hopefully everybody has learned a lesson from this. Let things stay as anonymous as possible. Especially when there are boobies at stake.
and now you know better for the future.. right?
Not your fault that she's an attention whore man. You just pointed out something. Kind of like the old days of nascar when teams would take advantage of the gray area's of the rulebook.
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Not your fault. Not all images she posted to gonewild had her face blurred. It seems to me that she changed her mind a some point.
Why the fuck did you do that? If you are interested in what else she posted and follow her username, fine, that's what the username-link does. But then coming back and posting "Hey guys, look what I found out about her"? WTF, seriously creepy.
Upvoted for personal resolve as well as the use of "kerfuffle". It's alright. We still love you, Charlie Brown.
That's it?
You spent time e-stalking someone, researching their history and posting it, obviously for others to use in abusing her, and your response is "my bad".
Be honest. You're a douche. Grow up. Get out. Get a life.
Can you repost those links here? I can't look at shit right now, but later!
No she didn't. She was fat.
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It's the attitude. How do you guys not get that the insults and the attitude are the problem here?
16 years ago I logged onto an AOL chat room about model planes or some shit and every other comment was a lewd remark directed at a woman. The internet hasn't changed much since then and Reddit is no exception.
I agree that the comments are inappropriate, but it is common knowledge that we have idiots among our ranks. People that don't take some simple steps to ensure their anonymity will fall victim to these morons.
I just find it hard to believe that someone could be so shocked that there are assholes on the internet that they'd freak and delete their account.
"Apparently she did not know."
FTFY...
I wouldn't insult her intelligence. It seems she's been through enough.
It would take a special kind of stupid to not realize picture A would be connected to picture X.
It's the abusive comments that are the problem, one would think in the 21st century people could handle seeing a topless picture of a girl and not lose their common sense and decency.
Hey butcher, a heartfelt FUCK YOU from myself. I took a page from your playbook and looked at your overview page. Fucking pathetic! A Redditor (and I use the term loosely) with less than 100 karma over a 4 MONTH timeframe.
You lurk, don't have anything relevant to say, use a pussy diablo II boss username, and decided it would be funny to blab to everyone about a girl who's light years beyond you mentally and emotionally just so you could feel accepted for once.
Keep masturbating into your self loathing pointless tears and microwave another hot pocket because that's the best a person like you can strive for. EABOD faggot.
My username is thebutcher99 because I am a fucking butcher! I cut meat for a living. But whatever, you are entitled to your opinion like everyone else. Also, I'm not much of a gamer and have never played either Diablo game.
You're missing out.
Why do it? Why out someone who posts to GW?
From your reply I assumed you are the type of person who would defame redditors.
I'd like to point out that "The Butcher" isn't in Diablo 2, it was in Diablo 1.
Plus there's always the possibility that said person's professions is, oh, I don't know, a cutter/packager of various meat products for sale and consumption by other carbon based lifeforms.
Hey now, I thought the point of this post was to get people to stop attacking others unnecessarily. Thebutcher99 is a man (I assume) who can own up to his mistakes, if this can even be viewed as that. Such actions deserve respect.
Hmm...yes. A "my bad" makes things square. I'll remember that the next time I find sensitive information about someone and spread it to others for no reason other than I giggled when I think about boobies.
I'll agree that owning up to your fuckups deserves respect, however the amount of respect gained does nothing to outweigh the respect lost by acting like a jowel flapping pre-pubescent boy on a school bus.
Yes, degrading one's character based on a few internet posts is what this conversation is about.
But, you're doing it wrong.
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Fuck you all. Fuck the girl, for making so big of a deal for some nude pictures and for trying to undo things on the Internet. There is a pic of her sucking dick on the internet, so? Do you realize how many people can be found sucking dick on the internet? If she's ashamed of it or doesn't want to be recognized and called a slut, she shouldn't have posted those pics using her gonewild account in the first place. You'd expect someone called "CurveGirl" to be less insecure about herself. Then, fuck the redditors who started the drama, bunch of 4chan-like retarded monkeys. Attention whores are everywhere, the girl surely has some insecurities and issues but you didn't need to be assholes about it. This community really went down the shitter. Then fuck blackwolf72, the submitter of this post: you're an asshole, man. I wouldn't have noticed all of this if it weren't for you, and by white knighting her you did exactly what she was trying to avoid by deleting her account, to have her nudes and her face linked to each other. Reddit is a pretty popular news aggregator, and by bringing this matter to its front page you humiliated that girl in front of the whole world. She didn't quit reddit because redditors bullied her, you fuckwit, she quit reddit because she didn't want other people to go deeper into the matter and link her face to those photos (but then, I already said what I think about her). She's already insecure a lot, do you know that people killed themselves for tamer shit than this? This is why I say that reddit nowadays is total shit. Downvote me, I don't care, you'll just confirm my thesis if you do.
Now the OP will delete his account and everything will have come full circle.
I hope the girl makes a new account and posts a thread about the OP deleting his account.
OP has been immortalized in /r/circlejerk, as there is a "white knight" smiley which is triggered by typing [](//#blackwolf72).
..that is until i become the new "white knight" and spew some random BS about this atrocity!
This monologue belongs in a spike lee movie.
Well, to be fair we both hate white knights. Although I hate more the "knights" part. While Spike, on the other hand....
Honestly, it sounds more like you hate the "white" part. Actually, wait, no, it sounds like you don't hate it at all. You spewed out a diatribe about how reddit sux and that poor girl, boo hoo. Anyway, I think you're really talented and would be great over at r/shittyadvice :)
Your rant had nothing to do with race, and my comment didn't either. It was the "fuck everyone and everything"-ness.
Maybe .... your "CurveGirl", here to haunt us.....??
You sir, win this thread.
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Finally someone with some common sense! I didn't even realize this happened until my friends and I saw this thread; now we all know. This is quite possibly the most ironic thing that I've seen in the last few months.
Well i was going to post a response...
you'll just confirm my thesis if you do.
You're writing a thesis on this? Actually, that's not such a bad idea.
AWESOME. Yes. You nailed it. Thank you.
she wanted to be popular for posting pictures of her body, she got exactly that. Moral of the story....don't post yourself on the internet....
I don't like the way you went about saying this, but it needed to be said and I'm glad enough people saw it.
You're right about all your actual points and then you say "This community really went down the shitter" out of nowhere. I completely agree that this whole fiasco is totally overblown, but you're just overblowing it in a different direction. There's nothing I see to legitimately claim the entire reddit community is bad.
It's not just what happened today, every day it's the same story. This story made it to the frontpage, and this at least means that a good part of the reddit community is bad, I believe. I think these guys already said what needs to be said about this matter, so I don't think I need to add more because it would be superfluous. But look at the stories that usually reach the front pages of every subreddit: 4chan image macros, NFSW posts, posts like this one or "Dear X, stop doing <>, thanks". We have gotten to the point that r/circlejerk isn't a joke anymore. The hivemind has taken over the comment system, there are no minorities, unpopular opinions are simply downmodded and auto-ignored, there is no discussion. This is not the reddit I remember from the days when I thought Digg was bad (this isn't my first account). There has always been a bit of circlejerking about some things (politics and religion, for example) but there was also enough space for news and discussion - this thread has over 900 comments, and almost nobody realized how hypocritical it is. This shouldn't be a top story on reddit, if our community were really better than Digg's, like everyone says. Digg has powerusers, old stories stolen from reddit and all but at least I don't remember I've ever seen an hypocritical meta-shaming of a girl that just did the mistake of trying to remove something from the internet (Streisand Effect?). Everyone here is acting as thought they're doing her a favor by publicizing her mistake, they say the reddit users who noticed her GW posts are bullies. But you know who are the real bullies? The people who upvoted this thread and made it reach the front page. And most people, a majority of people upvoted this post; thus, the majority of reddit and, by generalization, the reddit community, has really gone down the shitter.
OK, this thread is stupid, I wholeheartedly agree with that. What I disagree with is that there isn't value in reddit anymore because more people have made it dumber. When I look at my frontpage, and I bet when you look at yours, what I see is a page full of content that is 95% interesting things I want to see.
Mine too, but just because I removed all the main subreddits from it (this, pics, wtf, askreddit, iama, politics, atheism). r/scifi is the only subreddit on which I can still have intelligent discussions and some interesting stuff is posted, r/gaming for example is 10% duplicates, 20% memes, 30% nostalgia posts and 40% interesting content. My problem is not with the submissions, everyone can submit everything he/she wants, my problem is that only the usual lame stuff like 4chan memes and posts about boobs get upvoted. This post is the proof, as it's transitively about boobs. I wasn't still logged in, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed it since I don't have this subreddit in my frontpage. Do you think a good community would have allowed this thread to get to the frontpage? The mods can't do nothing, that would be censorship. It's the users that have to moderate themselves and the site, that's why it's called "social web". If 2254 users upvoted this thread, something is wrong with the community, it's undeniable. True, 1619 users downmodded it, and that means something. But it still managed to receive more than 600 weighted upvotes and get to the frontpage, 58% like it. That would not have happened in a good community, in my opinion, one that does not have fun at the expense of its users (CurveGirl, in this case). She made a mistake, a stupid one, but without this thread and the 1000 comments it brought, it would have passed unnoticed. I wouldn't have noticed it, at least.
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That is really sad. It's sort of the youtube effect; more users on reddit means more chance of idiots and a drop in quality.
There are people who like the community aspect of reddit and don't mind the personal type posts at all. Those who don't like it should ignore it, use subreddits, or go to Digg/Google News.
You've hit the nail on the head. Check out this data from Alexa.com.
An increase in idiots and the stupid also means a decrease in the overall quality of submissions. Using humour to illustrate this phenomenon - one can see why. It can be noticed in many submissions today: A rather crass but easily understandable joke gets many more upvotes than one that is arguably more hilarious but is perhaps harder to understand.
These micro-effects can thus illustrate a larger trend in Reddit submissions when expanded to include the individual opinions of the user. A submission - on it's journey to the frontpage - goes through a stringent vetting process which essentially ensures it's content is an aggregation of Reddit's varying opinions. This obviously has many variables, say for instance that a submission title is hyped enough to stimulate a particular group. In addition, certain groups are arguably more active upvoters than others (consider the atheist subreddit). Thus, though people are vilified for repeating it, the term 'reddit hive mind' is essentially true.
It's lamentable - but there really is nothing we can do about it.
Propose we make an IQ test that you must pass before you can register an account. (I'm just glad I slipped under the radar).
we should put reddit under a secret sub-reddit, and post regular reddit as a front for idiots....think of it as a reddit speak-easy
I'd be happy if Reddit would screen on the ability to correctly use they're, their and there.
And then we should make all those that don't pass the IQ test wear pieces of flare so we can point them out throughout the rest of the internets.
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.
"If you wanted me to wear 38 pieces of flare, then why don't you just make the minimum 38?"
Ha! Jennifer aniston reference!
Like a Yellow Star of David, perhaps?
Propose we make an IQ test that you must pass before you can register an account. (I'm just glad I slipped under the radar).
Grandfathered in.
Also, your account needs to be 1 year old to ensure you lurk before you actually post.
This will only work if it includes a critial thinking section.
I propose we change the voting system so that submissions younger than say, an hour, cannot be downvoted. I believe this would help solve the problem of reactionary downvoting or over-downvoting.
EDIT: At present Reddit will hide aggregate votes until 2 hours, so perhaps a two hour limit could be an option.
Spammers would love this.
As individual Redditors, we could be willing to step up and shut down particularly harmful idiocy, like in the example OP gives.
The Bystander Effect only works if no one is willing to step up.
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It wasn't like that when I posted my comment.
It's pretty much like when someone with a varying opinion to the majority in a thread says something, gets downvoted for no reason, and then someone posts "I don't understand why you're getting downvoted, because..." The moment someone steps up and says that this person shouldn't be down voted with an actual comment, the effect gets reversed. It seems to me that a lot of people tend to just up/down vote based on their first instinct, so if they see the majority has been down voting something and they didn't really enjoy the comment either, then they will just jump on the bandwagon. Whereas if someone were to take the time to type in a response and stop to think as to why they are down voting this person, they might realize that that person has a point and a place on reddit.
Nah, it doesn't work like that. I had a group of women and transsexuals trying to have me banned because they perceived my comments as harmful to the transsexual community. The mods here don't ban much of anyone and it's either that or everyone will be on witch hunts all day. Welcome to social communities.
FYI, it wasn’t just “women and transsexuals” calling you out for being a tool.
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Meh. Most of redditors feel justified. It's not just new people, it's old redditors indulging in the hivemind. This place has become a groupthinking minefield. You do one small thing to piss somebody off, and you might be the next victim of the hive.
I'm going to piss a lot of people off right now. Yes I am. And by that, I'll probably be downvoted for it. I don't fucking care. I'm always downvoted for trying to have a rational opinion on reddit.
But - how is this much different than how reddit treated the Saydrah incident?
So what is worse, reddit? Attention whoring or bullying someone off reddit?
So what is worse, reddit, somebody whoring themselves out or bullying somebody off of reddit?
Do I need to even mention the cancer lady that reddit went batshit on a few weeks ago? Can we please stop being this "internet hate machine?"
What is that Alexa data supposed to show? Reddit has had a very, very gradual increase in users. In fact there has been an overall drop this past month. Do you have a point?
If you plot the reach data in 'max', you notice a huge jump in little over a year. I suppose it's rather elementary, but it does illustrate Deckman's point of an expanded user base.
So December 31st 2008 was the last day of a good Reddit? And we waited so long to talk about it why?
An increase in idiots and the stupid also means a decrease in the overall quality...
An increase in the proportion of idiots will do that. Personally I don't see that. Some idiots are well known and have been around for years. Others come and try it on, get downvoted and give up.
To me, the quality over the last four years has remained just as high. I love the varying opinions and wide range of stories and comments. The ones I like still bubble to the top and the idiots still get (eventually) buried.
Edit: case in point: redittor gets scared off by idiots; support from reddit hits the top of the front page.
I have a hypothesis that idiots tend to downvote a lot more than your average user. Admittedly I have no empirical evidence to suggest this - so take it as you will, but for me it stands true in real life as it does on Reddit. You could, for instance consider a downvote as reactionary - akin to a stupid person shouting down another's opinion. A rational person will seek to follow Redditquette. Furthermore, you have to admit most downvoting that occurs here is against Redditquette:
Don't: Downvote opinions just because you disagree with them
Thus what occurs is an interesting situation of self-censorship, essentially a user will vet their own comment if they think it will potentially garner more downvotes. But following my hypothesis, an increase in stupid people also increases the amount of downvoting, hence increasing self-censorship in favour of the stupid people. I would go further to state that such phenomena would not occur in the short term, but would rather be protracted over a longer period.
As said, this is speculation, nothing more.
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I found this graph more appropriate. Number of monthly users have more than tripled in the past six months from 1.5 million to over 5 million... This could also explain some of the technical issues that reddit has been having.
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TIL:
Average Load Time for Reddit.com
Slow (4.282 Seconds), 78% of sites are faster.
No surprise there, I suppose... Still a bit rough to actually see it spelled out, didn't realise that it is this slow :C Wonder how accurate that is though, and how they came to the conclusion.
Also:
Ranked 59th site in Pakistan, most popular queries/related stuff are "meme", "jailbait" and this; which will conclude my experience with this Alexa:
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Pretty interesting stuff though, I wish Reddit would provide data like this. Or do they already?
It's funny. Reddit always mocks digg, youtube, etc... The comments of reddit are YouTube comments only with better grammar.
Of course this doesn't count for all subreddits, there are some small subreddits that are really reasonable and good.
If I had more time, I would create a graph of the witch hunts that reddit has had recently correlating it with audience growth. There is definitely a correlation.
I tend to notice that the people initiating witch hunts in the name of "protecting the community" are usually the newer users, too.
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Compared to when I started read reddit, there are a far higher proportion of no-content posts, i.e. those which don't link to anything and instead have something to say in the text of the post. So reddit becomes less about external content, and more about itself. For example, it used to be that askreddit would be the place for asking questions. Now they're all over the shop.
Solution? Maybe to allow users to hide self.* posts or those which don't actually link to anything, and that way redditors can have the best of both worlds - if you don't like the community aspect, you can just hide part of it.
And people that point this out are usually dismissed as 'hipster.'
I think you mean the more users the more chance of the users being idiots. It's not like there's a certain piece of the population that are idiots. Don't try to exempt yourself from being an idiot, we are all idiots. The girl was an idiot. The commenters were idiots, and now we too are also idiots for simply having a few degrees of separation from this. Hell, if you forget where you put your keys you're an idiot. We all are idiots, and the more people, the more chance you're going to see a portion of them being an idiots, and when people are idiots at the same time, we have things like Tea Parties and threads full of shit.
Get over yourself.
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HOLY SHIT GUYS I JUST HEARD SOMEONE WAS MEAN TO SOMEONE ELSE ON THE INTERNET.
Has the president been informed?? This clearly needs to be taken to the highest possible authorities.
Your account name makes me want to hug you.
The world, as you know it, has forever been changed.
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Posting on the internet is analogous to driving in a car. It's a disconnected form of something we've already done for a while (communicate through writing.)
But on the road, there are still dicks and we don't condone it. This "it's the internet so your feelings about what I say don't matter" attitude is a retarded excuse that maladjusted teens shit out every other day to avoid any responsibility for their actions.
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Are you suggesting this is on the same level of people who are assholes on the road?
No, and in fact I think you missed some basic aspect of the comparison.
To say the internet is analogous to driving because there's an anonymous disconnect in some way is not to say it's equal to in terms of severity. What you've done is like if someone compared writing on the internet with regular writing--a perfect viable comparison to almost everyone because they both achieve the same goal--and you said "you're comparing tapping buttons on a keyboard to a tradition spanning thousands of years? DO YOU REALIZE HOW RIDICULOUS THAT IS OMG?"
By the way, good job re-spinning this action as "a person puts up taboo pictures on the internet and is ridiculed for it." It's more like "a person posts naked pictures of themselves, realizes they made a mistake, deletes them, and people draw the attention of thousands to that person by ridiculing them" but I guess details aren't important when you're trying to discredit someone's analogy.
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Win.
What I like about reddit is that we have arrows that allow everyone to decide what gets to the top of the page! Or, I guess, who the "winner" is.
HOLY SHIT GUYS I JUST DISCOVERED THIS AWESOME THING CALLED LOGIC. WATCH ME PUT IT TO USE. Ahem
THE FACT THAT ABUSIVENESS HAS BEEN A FIXTURE OF INTERNET DISCUSSION FOR QUITE SOME TIME MEANS THAT IT'S ACCEPTABLE AND WE SHOULDN'T DISCOURAGE IT HERE ON REDDIT IN THE HOPES OF MAKING IT A BETTER COMMUNITY THAN ALL THE OTHER SHIT PILES ON THE INTERNET.
I'm really fucking tired of people trying to turn reddit into their retarded social club.
What are you doing right now?
Discouraging internet vigilantism.
You know why I've got 100+ karma and you have negative something?
Because my joke was concise, to the point, and to an extent, completely appropriate for this utter bullshit thread, and yours was more ranty bullshit white-knight internet garbage which nobody fucking cares about.
The internet, like the world, is fucking mean. People who spread their assholes for the camera and then try to look cute with a bird get shit all over. Get the fuck used to it.
Also, TL;DR in the vein of Idiocracy; you sound like a big gay faggot the way you talk.
The internet, like the world, is fucking mean. People who spread their assholes for the camera and then try to look cute with a bird get shit all over. Get the fuck used to it.
People rape and murder. Get used to it. You should never ever ever try to change anything that ought to be changed because no good could every possibly come from it because I say so loudly, throwing in a superfluity of cussing and vitriol. Everything that's wrong in the world must persist.
DERP DERP DERP HUUUUUUURRR.
Really. Back to /b/. You're human trash - because you have the intellectual capacity of molasses.
Yes, clearly RAPE AND MURDER are equivalent to what occurred here. Why not bring the holocaust into it next time? Maybe we're all nazis, too.
I'm human trash, but u mad nigguh. And yeah, clearly you can asertain so much about my intellectual capacity from a post. Try harder to use big words to make yourself feel superior to some dude trolling your ass so hard on the internet that it might break your back 'bro'.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHITEKNIGHT.
BAAAAAAAWWBLACKKNIGHT I'M SO COOOOOOL AND EDGY. ONLY FAGGOTS ARE SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE.
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWYOU'RE CONFUSING ME WITH A GOTH KID, I'M NOT EDGY, JUST LOUD AND GENERALLY HAVE AN OPINION THAT DOESN'T COINCIDE WITH WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD GENERALLY CALL 'KIND' AND WHAT THE FUCK DOES SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY HAVE TO DO WITH POSTING A FUCKING PICTORIAL OF YOUR ASSHOLE ON THE INTERNET AND THEN GETTING BUTTHURT (you know what I did there is funny) ABOUT IT.
She blurred out her face in the GoneWild thread but not the Chick post. Obviously she made a mistake that compromised her face/body combination and deleted her account to try to correct it. It is not necessarily due to some internet shit talk (never thought I'd see the day of flaming online) I mean as long as it doesn't cross IRL, most people can handle it. No I do not think that was the reason.
Check out the pictures. One of them has her face sucking a dick. Just saying...
This simple fact refutes about half of the comments in this thread.
A side shot, not a full on. You can easily argue that many people look exactly the same from the side. Not so much full on in a dmv type photo.
made a mistake that compromised her face/body combination
Have you seen a movie called "Face Off"?? That's what your statement made me think of.
im a big chubby chaser mysself!
Not all her GoneWild images had her face blurred. I think she changed her mind about her anonymity much earlier.
"I mean as long as it doesn't cross IRL, most people can handle it"
false. i have social anxiety. i probably would have killed myself.
She commented that that was infact the reason, but then deleted it. It went something like "Well, you won't have to worry about my karma-whoring anymore, reddit...But congratulations, internet, you have scared off yet another decent-looking, semi-intelligent female."
Semi-intelligent as in not blurring your face out of pictures and then DELETING FUCKING EVERYTHING?
Make an ed page about this girl
Why should we have to be afraid of not blurring out our faces? Are you saying because of this, she deserves all the hate she got? You are suffering from a text book case of Just World Bias
The world is not just, which is exactly why you shouldn't release pictures of you sucking a dick on the internet. sigh
I feel I shouldn't have to explain this on reddit.
The Internet has a lot of bored teenagers and because of this, under no circumstances anyone should post private or personal informations they are not willing to take responsibility for IRL.
Welcome to the Internet, hope you enjoy your stay. And keep away from webcams if you enjoy your privacy.
Everybody can rationalize.
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Judging by her part in all of this, I don't think she was semi-intelligent either.
It's really easy to keep pictures of your face and pictures of your body very separate if you're posting and that's your intention.
Her comment was;
"Don't worry about it, Reddit. I'll keep my attention whoring shit off of your site. I suppose I am wrong for wanting to share, and clearly I go about it the wrong way. I wouldn't want to ruin what was apparently once but is no longer a fun, interesting, and sometimes sexual forum with my boobs. Clearly, people like me must be the cause of this so-called decline in content. For the record, I was never in it for the karma. Yes, I loved getting on and seeing comments from people with similar interests who found me beautiful. No, I did not believe there was a damn thing wrong with it. But congratulations, internet, you have scared off yet another decent-looking, semi-intelligent female. I wish you the best of luck in whatever it is the douchey of you are trying to accomplish, and to the rest, thank you for your comments: they make/made me feel good."
ftfy
too much for her to bare (pun intended).
or
too much for her to bear (no pun intended).
I'm so glad someone else pointed this out. I didn't want to be the dick in a thread about people being dicks.
Well somebody had to be a spelling nazi, I think if the girl the op was referring to saw his thread she wouldnt know what to make of that comment since due to its bad spelling it is so ambiguous.
I did want to be the dick, but DAVYWAVY beat me to it.
Yeah, I couldn't help focusing on that. If no pun was intended, all he had to do was spell it correctly (bear)
The worst thing about it is I think the op has absolutely no idea he has spelt it wrong and most probably wouldnt have a clue what my comment was about.
Well it's a common mistake so it wasn't a typo (he didn't know), but I think it's pretty easy to figure out what your comment was about and adjust.
Dude, I had this friend and he loved puns. He was always talking about them and saying them and shit. They were mostly horrible and we were all getting really sick of hearing them all the time so we finally convinced him that he should write down his best pun and send it to Reader's Digest, if it got published we would agree that he was a "really funny guy" and accept him cracking his lame puns all day. So, anyways, he ends up secretly sending 10 of them in, assuming that the staff would find at least one of them hilarious, he was confident at least one pun would get published but no pun in ten did.
If I hadn't heard it a million times before I would still groan. Reads like a BelAir
That's funny because after none of the puns got published he got in one little fight and his mom got scared.
Also, at the risk of being pedantic, OP spelled intended as intented.
If you think a woman posting a pic that includes her cleavage is attention-whoring, as we all gawk at r/pic submissions of bare-tits, there's something to be said about perspective- or the lack thereof. We all attention-whore here. From r/fffuuu to iAmA we all like a little attention, most notably because this is gasp a bloody social community. I may be missing something, but I fail to see the justification in what was said in that thread.
Yeah, and going along with that, I didn't really understand "Also, she is a GIRL, and if you've ever encountered one of those, they love getting ATTENTION, and there's nothing wrong with that" in ThJ's post. What does her being a girl have anything to do with the attention seeking side? Like you said, that's pretty much the point for everyone here. When a guy posts about losing weight and includes pics, yeah some people accused him of attention whoring, but no one said he wanted attention because he was a man.
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The way I see it, we're all attention whores all the time, but we only get called out on it when we violate the group norms.
For example, to grab reddit's attention with a boob shot outside of where that sort of thing is acceptable (gone wild) violates some norms, so people start squawking.
Not sure what this thing is about, actually. I can only see the bird picture.
She didn't delete her account b/c people said mean things on the internet or b/c she was somehow insecure.
She slipped up, connecting her face with her nude pics, and she was afraid that would come back to her real life. Thus, the deleted account.
Get real, and quit talking down to redditors.
She posted a pic where she was sucking a dick in which you can clearly see her face.
That takes some sting out of my argument. I didn't check out the NSFW links at W. I still think it was getting a little too real for her, so she left...
C'mon...... she'll be back, just under a different handle. In fact, I'd be surprised if she wasn't commenting in this thread under this new handle.
All this attention.... it's too good for a redditor like her to pass up.
FOR FUCKS SAKE, THANK-YOU.
I am a female. I did not comment on the original chick post.
Let me just say that it is seriously sad that girls like her have such low self-esteem about their bodies that they need to post pictures of themselves naked/in their panties/of their shoved-up cleavage to get anonymous male approval on reddit. It was totally attention-whoring. The only reason it made it to the front page is because of her boobs, and everyone here knows it. The reinforcement of getting to the front page, and this whole white knight follow-up post, will only reinforce the attention-whoring by worsening the original self-esteem-related reason this girl felt the need to post things like this in the first place, now that she's gotten negative feedback.
tl;dr she was totally attention-whoring, just give it a rest already.
edit Remember, people, all this girl got was criticism. Nobody brutalized her or sexually attacked her. She is not a victim, she is just a girl who posted pictures of herself on the internet. Don't insult people who actually have been victimized by acting like this girl has been.
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You and your body type are more along the lines of what the reddit majority would find to be "very attractive," therefore less assholes will go out of their way to insult you. A "curvy" or "thick" woman will give many more people a reason to be hostile, rather than just closing the tab. Sad but true.
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I think your theory is valid, but i think the majority of people trolled based on the fact that she is "fat" in their eyes.
What a surprise--someone who is effectively a model is treated well on the internet, while a heavier girl gets ridiculed.
It's easy to "just like being naked" when you look like you do.
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I agree that context had a lot to do with it. But in general, online communities are quick to white-knight people they find attractive, and quick to be cruel to people they don't.
Basically, being an 'attention whore' is sort of like being 'sketchy'--when an attractive stranger hits on you, it's sexy and hot, and when an unattractive stranger hits on you, he's being sketchy. Likewise, when a hot girl posts naked pictures online, she's just having fun, and when a girl people don't find as attractive posts pictures online, she's an attention whore.
I try to avoid doing that personally, but I often find myself having the opposite stereotype; that is, I'm much more judgmental/negative about people who are conventionally attractive than about people (like the poster in question) who don't 'fit in.'
I thought the same about her eyes. They were really gorgeous, especially with the shirt she was wearing.
Unrelated: Have you been flamed like this, ever? Sorry if someone has asked this elsewhere and I just haven't seen it. I really don't understand the thought process behind abusing someone who is courageous enough to expose herself to the world. I mean, I know there's a reason, but I can't empathize with those people, no matter how hard I try. Abuse is abuse.
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You seem sane. Naturally, you were downvoted. Here's an upvote and an orange envelope to help restore the balance.
I noticed her eyes too. Amazing huh?
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I read the original thread and I don't understand what the fuss is about, looks like the woman was yes probably attention whoring (or maybe not but it was an angle shot of her cleavage so? She was posting in GoneWild so we can assume she was partial to the odd bit of attention whoring) but it doesn't really matter if she was or not given reddit is mostly circle jerk and tears. A few people said they didn't like larger women or posted a lame fat joke (I saw one post right at the bottom of the karma scale that was telling her to go whore up 4chan, big deal. really) and then she cried and DELETED HER ACCOUNT. Who deletes their account because a minority of people made a couple of offensive comments.
I believe either a) she made a new account so she could disconnect herself from the GW posts or b) she just quit to cause a stir. Either way the whole thing is a non-issue for this community because if you can't take a few comments from Trolls then I'm sorry but you probably aren't worth having around anyway.
TL;DR OH NO OPINIONS ON THE INTERNET -> :'(
Not really related to this girl in particular, but simply posting naked pics of yourself does not necessarily mean that person has low self-esteem. That would be like saying the only reason you do anything is for affirmation from your peers.
Oh come on. Are we really thrashing the skeevy suburban Salem-think dead horse that girls who enjoy showing off their bodies all have daddy issues or low self-esteem?
I'm sorry, I must've taken a wrong turn and ended up in the 1950's. Wah wah, women who show off their cleav are just so sad. Grow up!
When it's for strangers on the internet and one purposely posts using the same account with which they post pictures in r/gonewild in order to get more attention/upvoted to the front page only to delete the account upon receiving a little negative criticism, I think it's pretty safe to say that there are some low self-esteem issues involved.
Sorry I must have missed the definitive proof of her deletion upon receiving a little negative criticism, in light of comments about the accidental use of the account & her face being shown.
As a guy I wouldn't mind anonymous female approval.
As I female, I approve you.
^_^ I feel all giddy inside.
You know there are plenty of women who enjoy getting attention just for the enjoyment of it. It doesn't make you better than us.
Sure, and I definitely enjoy getting attention - just not from strangers on the internet by posting pictures of my boobs. My boyfriend gives my boobs plenty of attention.
I think it's more sad that you're making assumptions about other people's reasons for doing things that they could be doing for any number of reasons... and slagging them off while doing it. Well done you.
Perhaps people like you need to stop making assumptions about people whom you know essentially nothing about. You think asserting that the girl in question posted pictures as a means to mitigate some sort of self-esteem issue gives you the ethical upper hand? NEWSFLASH: It just makes you a bully. And all the upvotes you've gotten is just an unfortunate testament to the current level of self-righteous assbagerry on reddit these days.
tl;dr: Stop portraying people as emotionally-damaged just to give yourself a moral soapbox from which to demean someone else.
I stumbled upon a link to her cached comment history while reading other comments, and it's pretty obvious that she was posting pics looking for attention.
for example:
You guys make me feel great, seriously. I know it sounds silly, that people on the internet make me feel so good, but knowing that there is porn of what society deems "perfect" women all over the web and you guys choose to look at my body and pay me compliments...
She essentially admitted that she derived pleasure from the praise she was getting for posting the pictures of herself. So what? Is that attention-whorish? I believe so, yes, but it's hardly any sort of indication of low self-esteem or any sort of body issues as you alluded to.
tl;dr: She enjoys getting looked at. Big deal. Hardly cause for all the negative energy.
It's especially egregious when women do this under the self-righteous cloak of "I'm a woman, and I find this to be [assumptive judgemental ad hominem]". Well, I'm a woman too, and I find that sort of regressive moral posturing to be really offensive.
Yeah, pretty much.
I think if reddit wants to get rid of attention whoring (and let's face it, most of them don't) then we'll have to stop judging women based primarily on their looks. I wonder what everyone expects to happen when there are so many threads dedicated to shit like "Is Megan Fox hot?". Women with very low self esteem are going to look at those comments and want some validation. And you're right, it is sad.
i am a male and didn't even see the original chick post until this kerfuffle erupted (both the chick and the chick were dead cute, though). but let me say, if i put out something of mine for all the internet to see, it isn't because i have low self esteem about it!
As another female, I agree with this diagnosis. A lot of Reddit users were cruel and over-the-top, but they were fundamentally right. There was a naked (pun?) attempt to get attention, and some Redditors called her out on it.
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Every single post to self is made by an attention whore. You are an attention whore, too.
While I agree with you, if you got the goods, you can do whatever you want with them (personal choice & responsibility, of course). I don't find it sad that girls need to or want to show off their bodies - it is only sad when guys take advantage of that. And I mean, is it really any different from a guy who makes it to the front page because of a popularity contest & his friends boating up his 'witty' post?
Anyway, it's that old rape argument. Just because a girl is confident with herself & in a nice outfit does not give a guy the 'right' to attack her for his pleasure.
Criticism is in no way the same as attacking/raping someone.
Reading through the comments, some people also made this analogy, and I somewhat see the leap in logic to find similarities between the arguments.
She posted pictures by choice, and some people read through her comment history and reacted positively or negatively or apathetically. That seems normal. The negative responses she received are merely reflections of the community... which begs the question, what is the deal with this community?!
P.S. Criticism & bullying are two different things. Criticism can be constructive, and is usually welcome to help an individual's improvement in some area... whereas bullying (especially anonymous bullying), reflects a weak mindset of the need for someone to control or make someone feel bad for no apparent reason. But I'm not a psychologist, this is just my opinion.
Oh, and as for "She is not a victim, she is just a girl who posted pictures of herself on the internet. Don't insult people who actually have been victimized by acting like this girl has been." I'm not a licensed therapist and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but would anyone mind classifying the difference between emotional abuse & physical abuse? Can they not both be traumatizing? Clearly, the girl left for a reason. Who knows if she was actually traumatized but perhaps she felt like this wasn't a community worthy of her time.
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Your argument is like saying "The girl was wearing tight clothes, so of course she was raped."
You can't excuse the behavior of utter assholes that drive women away on this community on a daily basis by blaming the victim. She did nothing wrong. Sure, she could have had a stiffer upper lip about the entire situation, but I find your attitude of "she got what she deserved" a bit of a betrayal to our gender.
Are you kidding me? How can you compare judging something a girl willingly did to the "she was asking for it" excuse for rape? What you're doing is comparing rape to criticizing something a girl posts on the internet. That is just ridiculous.
My argument here is that there is no reason to try to "protect" this girl from criticism when she willfully posted pictures of herself on the internet seeking attention. Criticism, not physical attack.
I don't think she wanted attention for cleavage, cause if she's posting naked pics she's already gotten enough attention that way. It was basically an "am I pretty?" post
My problem with it is that it was an obvious fishing-for-compliments picture. You want to show a bird? Then you don't show the bird on your cleavage with your face in the picture. You want to find out if your face is attractive? Post your face somewhere where you can find out. I don't care if people wanna find out if they're attractive, just be upfront about it.
And also ending with "you've scared off another attractive, semi-intelligent female" is a bitchy, conceited comment.
Let me just say that it is seriously sad that girls like her have such low self-esteem about their bodies that they need to post pictures of themselves naked/in their panties/of their shoved-up cleavage to get anonymous male approval on reddit.
It's seriously wonderful that girls like her have such high self-esteem about their bodies that they realize that they are beautiful and that sharing their beauty will brighten other people's days.
And it's wonderful that some people realize that nakedness doesn't have to follow ancient moral rules, that nakedness isn't something that has an absolute value which gets diminished every time someone sees it.
Yeah, you're missing the point. Also, I definitely don't have conservative views about nudity - I actually thoroughly enjoy looking at other (attractive) women. But posting pictures like that of one's self to gain approval from strangers on the internet, and then deleting the account upon receiving negative attention, is the sad thing about this situation.
I just want to say I'm incredibly surprised you didn't get downvoted into oblivion because I know for a fact I would have been. I'm glad an opinion very close to mine is being seen.
I don't know about you, but calling her "curvy" is also just stupid. She's slightly overweight and I don't get how that's even an argument.
You think that's sad?
I find jealous uggos to be even more pathetic.
Woah, no where did I say you were jealous, I was talking about the misogynistic assholes sitting in their mom's basements who felt the need to call her fat because they were upset with all the attention she was getting.
Ah! That seemed pretty unclear from your comment. Thanks for clarifying, though.
Ah, yes. And what is the appropriate punishment for this attention-whoring?
Jealous much?
Not the boobs, the face. She has pretty eyes.
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I concur with pearlbones. She was an attention whore and this faux moral self righteous outrage over reddit calling her out as such is laughable. Who cares if she deleted her account because she wasn't being lauded with positive praise? Who the fuck cares?!
Since when does craving attention invalidate you as a person and give other people the right to treat you like dirt? Don't blame the victim. Blame the haters.
I don't get a lot of these comments. Since when is criticizing someone in any way similar to brutalizing or victimizing them?
The victim? That is what you are calling her? BwaHAHAHA
White knighting made it to the front page? lol
I don't know whether it's fair to just assume that the OP is defending her because she's a she.
Not the first time by far.
Is that a rhetorical question?
I hope so ;)
Classic case of the White Knight Nerd. It wouldn't be so bad if people around here weren't protecting every single action she took.
She was stupid and did not understand the repercussions of posting her bare tits on the net. Doesn't warrant the harassment, but certainly doesn't make her out to be too bright.
Hopefully she'll come back (like all good addicts) and have learned a lesson or two.
I'd have to agree with Whisper here and here.
People weren't especially cruel to her, they were just the usual Internet cruel. I can remember when I first joined, I posted a link to that guy being pushed off a bridge in China and I guess a little late into the party so some dude told me he wished my hands got cut off so I couldn't continue to post to reddit, then got upvoted. I thought, well shit, figured out that I shouldn't re-post, and moved on. It's just the Internet.
Also, her being female is almost entirely what is driving this controversy, if that's what we're to call it. Let's say a dude posts a picture of him and a bird, whatever, and people say "go away attention whore" and he gets upset and leaves reddit. Would there be this whole defense movement? What about if he left a comment going "you scared away another decent looking guy!" Would people take him seriously, no! Her being a decent looking female shouldn't be a key factor in this.
Edit: And it was a boring post.
It's unbelievably lame that so many people downvoted Whisper's very articulate comments. His second one, for example, contained this gem:
You see, attractive women float through life in a clear sparkling bubble of extra help, extra niceness, and extra consideration from those around them. They can't see it, of course. They just think the universe is sparklier than it is, and cannot understand why others seem to find life so difficult, or what they seem to be so angry about.
I'll go ahead and say that anyone who downvotes a comment worded like that is a total fucking wanker. Don't downvote based on disagreement. Especially if you don't care enough to express your disagreement as articulately as your opponent just did. It's telling that not a single person who downvoted Whisper actually took the time to write a coherent reply. The top-upvoted reply there consists of one phrase: "Ease up, turbo." WTF? Is that the level of discourse you want to encourage here?
I don't think people would call a picture of a guy with a bird attention whoring. They'd just ignore the post if it was boring and move on.
Equality - Treating everyone as equals. That means the good and the bad.
She couldn't handle the bad I guess.
Tits are never boring, how dare you!
Okay how about we actually fix the problem. Instead of posting a comment saying how horrible this entity called "reddit" is and generalizing the community as a whole, I'm going to go ahead and be the first to point out those that we are calling "reddit";
Eugi
wassworth
darkreign
sector7
opnwyder
tertialtom
opnwyder[Espicielly you, dick head]
benny
rageingnonsense
Whisper
theartfulrambler
windynights
StrandedInPDX
HaCutLf
SonyEntertainment
bloodangel05
Hack0201
Gareth321
fortuitous5
mikepunk
mrscsx [Ass of the year]
THESE people are all the ones in that thread that made that girl feel bad, THEY are not 'reddit' (WE are not reddit) THEY are individual idiots with nothing good to say and "WE" are individuals just like them So instead of saying WE and THEM 'are' "reddit" Why don't we just point out who the idiot is. "reddit" is not a single user, stop treating it that way, it would be more beneficial to point out these idiots on this thread and to shun them away, than to talk about how bad "reddit" is. Whoever the hell "reddit" is.
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It's no ones club, we are individuals, on a website with opinions. Nothing else. reddit is a overall self proclaimed community as the reddiquette states, and a community doesn't have to be "together". I don't want to sensor anything, in fact, I really don't care about her post or what happened, or even what people said, I agree you get what you get on the internet but my purpose is not to fulfill a witchhunt or w/e but to simply point out that saying "OMG I CANT BELIEVE REDDIT IS SO MEAN, REDDIT IS HORRIBLE, etc etc" is effectlively doing nothing. it's like yelling into a room full of angry people with the same name and blaming them for everything; just makes no sense as one should shun those individuals individually if they feel offended. "reddit is _" is the most moronic thing someone can say as a user..and thats what we are, a bunch of people on a website with our own thing to say, users, not a user group, not a posse, but one brain and two hands. So why not say it directly? why generalize everyone and make it into some (I can't believe im using this word) circlejerk of hate against "reddit"(?) As the rediquette states;
"Reddiquette is an informal expression of reddit's community values, written by the reddit community itself. It's not meant to be a list of commandments, but really more of a collection of guidelines. (In other words, be flexible!) "
It is what it is, no matter how angry you are in your comment to whoever is in this club you're referring to, reddit started with people that obviously wanted to set an understanding amongst each other that establishes a healthy relationship in their "community" There are people that see it this way, there is nothing you can do to change that, no matter how many times you add "fucking" to every sentence.
What you said has absolutely nothing to do with what I said or what I am addressing. I'm sure you have some stupid fucking way to rationalize posting their names, but if you have the forethought you claim to, then you could easily predict possible consequences such as harassment of those users.
One is entitled to their opinion, and I respect yours. Whether they will get "harrassed" or not it is up to the person that looks at my comment and how they feel. Some that feel that those people spoke the truth will message them and say thanks, those that think they are asses will bitch them out. So, that's what you agree to when you join a "community" online, being shunned from that community should not seem so surprising. Like I was said, saying "reddit is ..." is stupid, it's an endless circle of trying to make those that "did bad" come out and somehow let everyone on reddit know how sorry/awesome they are at the same time, when we dont even know who the hell we are referring to. Stop these stupid posts, and tell the individual how you feel directly. "reddit" is the asshole here, and somehow me and you are also assholes and even Unicode_Unicorn is an asshole, so what the fuck are we trying to figure out here, who the fuck is "reddit" and why is "reddit" an asshole?
They registered their screen names to be used on reddit, then so reap the consequences of agreeing to be apart of this "community".
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I disagree with Whisper being on that list. He made a thought out, post with actual points. He didn't say "Hey you fat bitch", he came up with points, backed them up with arguments. And he was correct in most of his points. If he made her feel bad, it was only with truth.
Please... it wasn't the truth, it was arrogant douchery.
This is going too far. What do you think you're gonna get? A free blowjob? Cut the fucking white knighting. It's embarrassing being registered on the same website as you.
That's unfortunate, I was just replying to you, if you have nothing to say, why waste my time :|?
Figures they where only out to drag her down to their level. It's a pretty common thing to do.
Karma karma karma karma chameleon...
you come and go, you come and go. ♫
You're an asshole. I hope you get banned.
Jesus christ man.
If I may ask, what the hell do you expect people to do hmm? Rioting in the streets? Demand for vengeance? Insult them until they get so upset they leave Reddit for a month, create a new username, and the circle of the internet starts all over again?
Face it, you have what is most likely 1 of 20 accounts that they use. It's done, she's gone, get over it.
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OUTRAGE PARTY!
Quick everyone, get equally outraged about their outrage!
ARGH
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ooooo....you need to sit over there with them ones...
EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!! WE'RE GETTIN ANGRY ABOUT ANGRY UP IN THIS BITCH!!
Outrageous.
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Way to go reddit! You really increased the sum total of human happiness today.
She was pretty cute. Fucking dbag reddit dudes.
Although I probably fit in that category sometimes :)
Redditors chase off an attractive female? Shocking! Just goes to prove that some redditors don't know how to act around women.
Obviously she, like Megan Fox, just wasn't hot enough for Reddit.
Reddit is really pissing me off today. I'm ashamed of my Y chromosome.
Comon, next you're going to tell me that /b/ chased off an attractive female (and DOS'd her dad's business's ecommerce site, just for the lulz).
THE INTERNET IS NICE, PEOPLE!
Just goes to prove that some redditors don't know how to act around women.
This is the internet, you Whiteknight retard.
Someone on the internet finds any woman attractive?
Shocking!
Only nerds use the inter nets.
You do not belong in my decade.
attractive female?
Which one? Where? Can you link me to the story you're talking about?
Stop it.
How about no? You have to allow the possibility that she is in fact just not very attractive to a great deal of people. There's nothing wrong with the fact that we disagree about this.
You can't whitewash reddit just because you feel bad about some fat girl posting pics of her sucking and fucking and it not working out particularly well.
You guys drove a person off of Reddit with your ridicule. Do you not see how that is shameful behavior? Straight question: how old are you? I hate to play this card on the Internet, but please just tell me that. How old are you?
really?
chasing off and attractive female can only mean redditors don't know how to act around women?
no other reason?
Hello!
Welcome to this magical thing called "The Internet"! Its a wonderous invention that allows people that would normally be too afraid to talk to others, be it due to a social defect or a physical one. On the internet, everyone is the same! You! In the wheelchair, you are now a rising Football star! You can do things like this, because people can't see you. Some people like to think they are of the opposite sex, including finding attractive pictures in sultry poses and posting it as themselves. These people are often looking for you to "have a seat" while they work something out in their minds.
Others..... Well, they like to take a more sinister approach. It is easy to find these people, through the broken grammer, and stream of curse words. These people are a special breed. They require the affirmation of "friends", "karma", "diggs", and various other phrases for friendship or an affinity towards someone or something as used on the Internet. These are people, that when presented with a valid and reasonable argument, scream an incoherent babble at you that has nothing to do with your original argument. We, the denizens of the internet, like to call these people Trolls.
Trolls are a special breed of pond scum. These people are usually very passive aggressive in nature, and very rarely go outside. It is easier for them to get their affirmation here on the Internet, than it is for them to go outside and throw a ball around. Around pretty females, well, they just clam up and don't do a thing. On the internet, however, they react by violently accusing the female of being an "attention whore" and a "whale" while they "man the harpoons". These reactions are paramount to getting the action that they need to survive. Because said reactions are often times seen as funny to some people, they get large amounts of "karma" and "diggs" from them, which leads them to believe that this is how they acquire "friends". We know that this is not the truth, but we say that we don't approve, yet we do at the same time. Funny how easy it is to confuse such a simple mind, isn't it? These misconceptions are constantly being shown on sites such as "reddit" "digg" and "FaceBook".
In summation, please watch what you say, and remember, that everyone on the internet is a real person. If you would not say it to them in real life because you know it will get you knocked the fuck out, then don't say it.
You put too much effort into that.
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I had fun with it. Thats all I care about.
Fun is the three letter F word!
I have this feeling that if I knew you in real life, I would hate you.
Probobly. And I don't give a flying fuck if you do.
To all the downvoters- glad I could disappoint.
I only saw one female, and she wasn't attractive. Who were you talking about?
EDIT: Downvoted for asking a question? Really, Reddit?
EDIT 2: I went from -5 to -18 since my first edit, and nobody seems to have the stones to reply to me. I'm sorry, I didn't realize we all had to be nice all of the time on the internet.
Serious question:
Why do you care if a girl posts naked pictures on gonewild? It is her life, her decision, her body. Last time I checked, some girl posting pictures of herself doesn't affect your life in any way. If you don't like to see the things that get posted in r/gonewild, don't subscribe to it. The cute bird picture was adorable and not sexual at all. It isn't even close to NSFW. Why do you care if she happens to also post pictures of herself naked? Is it hurting you?
Also, while we are deciding what is and isn't okay to have on reddit, may we take a moment to look at [the 5,647 perverts in r/jailbait](http://www.reddit.com/r/jailbait)
Really? A girl who happens to post in gonewild can't post a cute pic of herself fully clothed without reddit taking a huge shit on her, but exploiting underage girls isn't causing a big freakout? At least this girl chose to post pictures of herself. Every picture in r/jailbait seems to be stolen from high school girls' facebooks. Disgusting.
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My moral sensibilities are finely attuned and dignified! Look at those perverts over there!
FTFY
your judgemental attitude is very endearing. Were you one of the many that drove her away?
She also chose to be offended.
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She's fat.
MY internet.
The cute bird picture was adorable and not sexual at all.
So then what is the need to post it right by your face and cleavage? If I post a picture of my new bunny next to my erect penis, the focus was not intended to be the bunny.
Also, while we are deciding what is and isn't okay to have on reddit, may we take a moment to look at the 5,647 perverts in r/jailbait
Yeah. 15-21 year old guys looking at 17 year old girls are really sick in the head perverts. Just because you are old, grandpa, doesn't mean the rest of the internet is. :p
I have news for you, 16 year old boys don't consider looking at their highschool classmates to be looking at "jailbait." Jailbait is a term used by older men who are looking at underage girls.
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That's not news so to speak. I know that, and I'm sure some of the subscribers are over 30. The most of them, given reddit's demographics, are not ... they surely didn't name the subreddit.
Demographics for this site though say it isn't many in all likelihood, and really, have you seen porn lately? It's all old people above 25 and doing weird shit. Hot girls the age of the average redditor is bound to be popular.
Yes, of course some of the subscribers are going to be married guys or whatever. I'd even say they aren't really "perverts" though. Perverts, IMHO, would be the people who don't find porn of good looking 18-21 year old girls appealing, unless they are really old, like 40. If I had to guess, most jailbait porn is really 18+ year old actresses, no? Is there real underage porn there? I've never actually been there (I don't even subscribe to any reddits besides anarchist, libertarian, business, econ and finance ones by and large and just happened to go to r/all this morning and saw this).
I can't get passed this:
It's all old people above 25 and doing weird shit.
How old are you that you would refer to over 25 as old? My god ... I don't consider the word "old" to apply until a person has hit 60. Is 25 the new old!?
Bigger newsflash, I can promise you that guys older than 21 frequent /jailbait.
If I had to ballpark the average age of a jailbait subber, I'd say 31.
"But congratulations, internet, you have scared off yet another decent-looking, semi-intelligent female."
Conceited. Meh.
If you think calling yourself "decent-looking" and "semi-intelligent" makes you conceited, you don't have any sense of perspective. Think about it. Decent-looking. Semi-intelligent. All she basically said was that she wasn't ugly or a moron. Even if she described herself as attractive and intelligent, I still don't think that would make her conceited, unless you consider even the mildest degree of confidence to be conceited.
I don't think she was even implying that there aren't plenty of attractive, intelligent women on reddit. I suspect her point was that there are, but they're often scared off by many redditors' blatant misogyny.
Just the way she's acting like we should care that she's leaving us because she's a female.
The community is predominately male. Shouldn't we feel bad that we're scaring off female redditors, who, aside from the obvious reasons many redditors might like them around, add diversity to the site?
I think you're trying really hard to read something negative into a fairly innocuous comment.
Ehh, I can rarely tell whether a poster is male or female...a redditor is a redditor to me. I don't really care if she's decent looking, or if she's a female, although intelligence is nice for conversation. It just seems like she's expecting us to care because shes a girl and we're all "virgin internet nerds", as the cliche goes. If she doesn't want to be insulted she shouldn't be posting nude pics on the internet. I couldn't care less if she leaves over that.
WTF. A woman is willing to post naked pictures of herself AND cute animal pictures and you do this? What the hell is wrong with you? The people who did this will either be virgins for the rest of their lives, or their current significant other will continue to be ugly, fat and unwilling to give them oral sex. You are horrible people.
This is why we can't have nice things.
This isn't true. The reason she ran away is obviously because she had blurred her face out in her GW pics but used the same account (or at least was recognizable enough - I don't know which) for the bird posting. Redditors linked the two together publicly. Anyone who recognized her could thus click through and find her naked pictures (which she clearly liked but didn't want to have associated with her public persona, obviously). Deleting her account makes it that much less likely that people can trace her and link the two.
There was no witch hunt. There are a handful of idiot posts, suitably buried, the same as there are in every reddit thread.
Although I agree with the sentiment behind this post, it's sensationalized and doesn't address the rationality of the situation.
</soapbox>OMG, you mean my kneejerk, righteous indignation at a perceived injustice which was in fact a situation totally caused by the victim's own oversight isn't justified...again?
Are you an Attorney or something close?
Becoming a daily occurrence here on reddit lately.
The comments most definitely weren't buried when I arrived. All the hurtful comments were near the top and any remarks about the picture being cute were near the bottom.
She definitely didn't intend to post it to the same account as her GoneWild pictures. I thought it was a bit insensitive to point this out publicly instead of warning her in a private message. It's easy to do this kind of thing by accident.
Do you sort by newest or best?
And as for using the same account for GW vs Bird picture... I will go ahead and believe that you know she didn't mean to, and it's too bad a white night didn't come to her rescue, but that's hardly the same level as what you are talking about in the title to this thread.
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O'Rly?
I don't wanna sound like an insensitive douche, but this is almost entirely her fault. By what I've read it seems she didn't want to be recognized for her GW pics, I get it was a mistake, but some other redditor doesn't need to take precautions for someone else. If she didn't want to be recognized for her GW pics, she should have been more careful, or not posted them at all, not saying i wouldn't have enjoyed 'em cause she looks very cute.
Oh no, some people said some horrible stuff. Why can't everyone be nice and flowers.
Exactly. There's one negative comment in that thread that isn't completely buried (because it happened to be a reply to a more popular comment) and it's sitting at -56; -57 since I found it.
Indeed. The comments were what you'd expect from a pic of a tiny bird sitting on your boobs while doing the "I'm too sexy to smile with both sides of my mouth look" in the same account as your hobby porn posts.
The most inciteful comment was from a guy who has -903 comment karma and an award for it. Clearly, he hasn't been anywhere near the top at any point and isn't representative for any of this.
What is the problem with posting nude pics and then later a clothed pic in a different subreddit? I'm not getting the argument.
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*spelling hint rather than analysis
This! If I were you, I'd repost this as a standalone comment, so it can be the first thing people see (at least if they have comments sorted that way). The attempt at white-knightdom is... commendable, but misplaced.
Why is it men pretend to like naked pictures, buy magazines with pictures of naked women in them, but on the internet (and probably RL) have nothing but contempt for any woman who poses nude.
Ya'll are such hypocrites.
allie, that is a hurtful generalization. And unless you stop your bullying, all those men are going to delete their accounts and run away from reddit... for about a week or two.
You understood this situation and presented a clear explanation. Have an upvote!
So this post is embarrassing her further by drawing attention to the fact that we can see naked pictures of her. Way to go blackwolf72, you internet white knight you.
Touché
link to pics?
The problem is that there are creepers who go looking through someone's history when they find out they are a girl.
On the off chance that girl has posted naked pictures of herself on reddit? Looks like their approach is working pretty well.
Honestly, though, we can. I don't know when all the inappropriate comments were downvoted, but they were, a lot. As a group, it appears redditors were in favor of whatshername and against the obvious trolls that called her fat. The problem is that, though reddit gives the silent majority a voice through voting, people don't listen to the voting. People listen to whoever speaks up. What we need to do, as a community, is do what we've been doing. We just need to upvote good content and downvote bad content. What individual posters need to do is remember to take every comment with a grain of salt and realize the top voted comments are the ones people generally agree with.
Wow, okay, I didn't expect my little comment to make it to the Reddit front page. I still maintain what I said. I clicked the article expecting positive comments and was shocked to discover that people were putting this woman down. Thus my fit of justified rage.
Heaven forbid people don't agree with you! Wait, am I offending you now? I'm awfully sorry! Please don't get upset!
Yea, you're cool in my book.
OMG! People were saying negative things? On the internet?!
Why is your rage "justified"?
What's wrong with calling this woman fat or even ugly? You can try and argue against her obesity with BMI, but beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder.
Seriously, since when are women somehow immune from some cold and hard realities? Her boyfriend sure as hell doesn't seem to care about her health or well-being.
Top voted comments like meme and sex jokes?
This. 1000x this. To be honest I thought she was pretty cute, but yeah, bad form reddit on the "outing" where you made her feel uncomfortable. If she blurred her face out on GW it was because she didnt want it associated with her naked pics... so pointing it out and associating it for her was reaaaaaaaaaal smooth guys.
Unfortunately, the people who commented on the previous post aren't likely to click on this one.
What? But reddit is full of nice guys who would never treat a girl wrong! Lewl.
Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word.
You are doing it wrong. I got plenty of nice things.
Plus she dug me. I could tell by the way she phrased her posts. I was that close...
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Gross.
I just don't understand how these things work.
I was gonna say that too! so I second yours
How idiot boys treat ladies on the Internet.
You guys know that ladies are pretty rad, right?
No reddit only knows ladies are evil stereotypes that only fall for alpha-males and assholes. We ladies are ALL the same. Damn us.
Tits or GTFO.
Now I'm a feminist for upvoting. >.< Dammit! I'll never learn...
To be fair though the only women I seem to be able to attract are all the same. That is to say every single girl I've been with has cheated on me and then lied when I found out.
..then you're looking in the wrong places.
I can only talk for myself and not for others. But i never cheated.
I know there are a lot of evil girls out there. Same goes for boys. Afterall they are both human.
However, don't prejustice.
Simple answer: cheat on her first.
move to colombia
Fcuking attention whore...
/sarcasm
Well, you do fall for alpha-males and assholes. You're chix, after all. But don't get too twisted up about it; dudes fall for vapidity and crinkled noses.
The real problem here is one of lack of sex. I've found that almost without exception, the only people who are truly interested in ruining anything at all concerning (or having to do with) the sexuality of another person is doing so because they're not fucking anyone.
It's too bad the bird-chick went down because a bunch of sexless shitbags decided to take their lack of promiscuity out on her, by implying promiscuity. Apes, that's what they are.
Hey, I'll have you know that some of us sexless shitbags don't try to ruin other people's fun!
Implying promiscuity? She was fat and definitely not getting laid. Fat pics aren't porn, they're banned material in my neck of the woods.
Oh, god damn it. You just co-opted a stereotype yourself. Don't auto-fail when trying to act indignant.
Why the fuck are you on the internet and not in a kitchen?
Hello father.
Hello mother.
You are, though.
Thought i was on 4chan for a minute there.
You might as well be. Reddit is 4chan with (laughable) pretensions to intellectualism. In fact, few internet communities are as closed-minded and anti-intellectual as this sewer of totalitarian thought. You people, redditors, are not as far removed as you’d like to imagine from the mouthbreathers you despise—and I think you dimly realize this, given your loud obsession with distinguishing yourselves from Sarah Palin and her ilk. This is called the “narcissism of small differences.”
You sound like a fair and unbiased reviewer, reddit_sux :)
and then they go to r/relationshipadvice and ask why girls don't like them
Alternatively:
(fuck off, I'm not showing you my tits)
WHY ARE ALL WOMEN SUCH BITCHES?!
Yeah, of course. Thanks, I forgot that side of it too.
Lose-lose.
Well, you go to a bar trying to trick a lady into sleeping with you. Even though you want her to doesn't mean you will respect her for it.
I do?
I've never "tricked" a lady into sleeping with me. Depending on the situation, that's either douchey or rape. What the hell? Does anyone have healthy boundaries and expectations here?
I'm sure you were 100% honest with alll of them.
I'm afraid you're not living up to your name. We are disappoint.
trying to trick a lady into sleeping with you
You're doing it wrong.
Good going, boys, you let slip one of the good ones. But on the other side of things...
Girls, if you post revealing or suggestive pictures of yourself, you are intentionally objectifying your image to gain approval. You shouldn't be surprised when a bunch of anonymous pigs don't treat you like a person. It amazes me how many girls still don't realize that.
That doesn't excuse said pigs.
No, but it's like being a black man knowingly walking into a KKK Convention, you would be more than a little naive to think nothing would happen.
So, reddit is like a KKK convention? Really, shouldn't we hold ourselves to just a tad higher standards?
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No, not at all. Unless advertising, media, music, movies, video game characters, all encouraged black men going to Klan rallies in the way they create norms around female sexuality.
what if he's walking in there with a blowtorch?
Not in any way does it excuse them. All I'm saying is that a female posting nude pictures to an internet community comprised primarily of 16-25 year old males should expect a wealth of varied responses. It's not anyone's fault so much as it is just a sad state of affairs. This, to me, is the same as drunk college boys groping cocktail waitresses at a bar.
STEP 1: POST TITS ON INTERWEBNETS.
STEP 2: GET UPSET WHEN NOT RECEIVED AS INITIALLY INTENDED.
STEP 3: ???
STEP 4: PROFIT.
Too bad for you white knights who've never seen a pussy in real life, the difference is we aren't going to up and leave because we got all butthurt over some limpdicks calling us "pigs" or "assholes."
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You don't need to leave. Hopefully, you'll just have your comments downvoted when you're acting like a pig or an asshole. :) It's cool. Eventually you'll turn 14 and be a big boy.
Right. And it's that girl's fault for getting raped because her clothes were too tight.
I think we've heard that argument before.
Exactly.
I called them pigs. They are pigs. You get dirty if you play with pigs.
What? So if you're a girl you can't be nude in a photo without being a whore? I can appreciate the human body without objectifying it, it's your fault if you can't. And yes, I realize that most men can't, that doesn't make it right or fair.
These things are usually defined by what most people think. It isn't like a math equation with a right and wrong answer. It's subjective.
I don't think so. You can argue, philosophically, that the governing body sets the laws, but that doesn't have anything over natural law. You're born naked and there's nothing you or any governing body can do to prevent that. The Earth wasn't flat simply because people believed it and perceived it to be so, it was still round.
As for whether it's appropriate or not to be nude, that's a whole other argument; one that sadly, here in America at least, the nudists would lose.
And as for whether or not it's right or wrong to objectify women, that's not what I'm arguing, only that it's more pathetic than it is not pathetic, and it's certainly unfair and oppressive to us all to condemn our natural states, regardless of how many goatses or "fat rolls" are factored in. You can argue otherwise, but until someone births a fully-clothed child with high cheek bones and a slender figure, I won't be giving any credence to the idea that we're justified, as men, to objectify women and hold them to a particular standard as long as everyone else is doing it.
So you're saying you have the ability to know a person based on their nude photos? If I show you 50 nude photos of a woman would you know what food she likes? How about how she likes to dress? Does she have a college degree?
And how are 50 clothed photos going to tell me what food someone likes or whether they hold a college degree? I don't understand how this means nude photos of a woman are inherently immoral and objectifying.
Say what? Who said that?
If that object in the nude photo later suggests that it likes pickles on its grilled cheese sandwiches you shouldn't get surprised, nor should you tell it that it's wrong.. You'd pictured it eating strawberries with whipped cream (while feeding them to you) only.
We won't know unless we try!
No, you are posting your image for some reason. You are neither "objectifying your image" (?) by posting it nor do you know if it was done for approval.
Really?
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By simply posting you have, by your own definition, shown you are a whore for attention.
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This is a bullshit argument. This is equivalent of the "she was asking to get raped -- her clothes were too tight" kind of argument.
You can't blame the behavior of reddit assholes on the person who posted the nudie pics. That is entirely unfair. Reddit is all too good at witch hunts. They have proven this again and again.
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What has the first part of that sentence to do with the second part? How does "putting yourself on display" imply that you will not be treated as a human?
How did the Disney Channel come into this? O and by the way, they're setting really good examples so far: Brittany Spears (no examples needed for her), Lindsay Lohan (again), and Miley Cyrus (the 16-year-old who was dancing on a pole in booty shorts at a very big awards ceremony). Ok yeah, they sure are warning girls pretty well and especially by example.....
WTF? Why, every time someone is made out to be a douchebag, are they referred to as ugly and/or fat? There is no correlation between being ugly/fat and being a douchebag. You are horrible people.
Yeah, most people here are simply hiding behind a veil of pseudo-intellectualism that they feel was bestowed upon them after they got beat-up for being a nerd in the 6th grade. Oh shit there I go stereotyping...
even more so considering so many of us have faced social ostracization in the past.
Although this is a new account, I've been at reddit since near the beginning (back when paul graham dominated 8 of the top 10 posts of the day). The type of people who post here has changed a lot. The crowd has gotten younger, more aggressive, and generally more annoying. There is also a 4chan element at this place that has done nothing but drag down post and comment quality.
This explains the viciousness that permeates this place now. It's almost more trouble than it's worth to be a contributor here.
Upvoted, seems like 4chan culture is overflowing onto reddit.
4chan culture is fine as long as it stays on 4chan. I do not want to see Reddit, Fark, etc, degenerate into calling women cumdumpsters and everyone posting their possibly-underage girlfriends naked.
This is exactly what I thought when I read the OP.
Cool, let's call their significant others ugly and fat because we don't like that they called this girl ugly and fat! Rock on!
Or they will continue to objectify woman and have an ample supply of woman who do not know they can do better due to a corrupt upbringing teaching them to follow what they are told by men...
Just my two cents, I've seen it enough times sadly. People will do anything to not be alone ;(
My boyfriend always jokes "treat a girl like dirt and she'll stick to you like mud." Too bad this isn't a joke for most people.
Edit: spelling. I really should only type comments on my computer and not on my iPhone.
Maybe, but she's gone now, so it didn't work with her.
There are three types of guys in the world, and two of those are generally on Reddit.
The guy who has plenty of confidence and gets girls he wants with ease, doesn't spend time on Reddit. (There's a very small percent of Redditors who are this way of course).
The nice guys who spent most of their RL time being the friend to an unappreciative girl who used them for emotional support but never gave anything back.
The guy who is convinced that guy #1 gets the guys by being a dick to everyone, and thus they need to 'out-dick' him in order to be competitive with him.
EDIT: It seems like certain people who don't like this post are going through and downvoting other comments of mine, and posters who have come out and admitted their own experiences. Please be mature and keep the reddiquette in mind, thank you.
.4. Guys who have merely adequate amounts of confidence, yet still have sex with women.
.5. Guys who just want to read the paper and could give a fuck.
.6. Gay guys.
.7. Guys who don't have it all figured out, yet are okay with that.
.8. 350 other types of individuals that don't quite fit any attempts at categorization.
I'm ALL about #5 over here. #7 too.
Obviously infinite categorization defeats the prediction benefits of modelling, and that's all this is, a MODEL. You're right, everything is different, but the whole point of identifying categorize and patterns is so that you can define a set of rules which may model consequence to some degree. These categories don't work 100%, and I never advertised them as doing so, but alas it doesn't matter; these models will help some people and others will simply ignore them, but I hardly believe aspiring to confidence will harm anyone.
Wait, you put periods before the numbers?
you mean girls?
Damn, I knew I would mess something up.
I've been guy #2 for a while, at least the last few relationships, but I'm working toward becoming guy #1, if only to find that one special lady.
That was a good summary, btw.
Upvoted for being generalizing and reductive but actually kind of true. These aren't the ONLY kinds of guys in the world (I used to be #2 but I don't fall into any of these categories now), but they ARE three distinct male roles that guys often play.
Hope Reddit sucks it up and acknowledges this by NOT downvoting it.
Haha I guess it is a bit short sighted; would you mind explaining your category?
Right, cause being fat = ugly, ugly = bad, and being unwilling to perform oral sex makes a woman valueless. You too are a horrible person and your prejudices are as bad as theirs.
Being fat and ugly is bad. Are we now being SO incredibly PC that we have to pretend that there's nothing wrong with it?
Being fat is unfortunate because it's unhealthy but since it's not something people choose it's not "bad". Lots of smart, nice people are fat. Being ugly is also unchosen and some very nice people are ugly. Both are superficial categories that only show your own mindless prejudices.
Being fat is not something that people choose? I'm no scientist, but I've heard that some nutritionists have this theory that there is a correlation between being overweight, and eating too much food, and undertaking taking too little physical activity.
Also: its quite obvious socially that being fat and ugly is much worse than being slim and attractive, its a bad thing to be. Social factors count alllie, all the time, not just when its convenient for you.
http://captionsearch.com/pix/vaib62pyrx.jpg pic related
So true!
If you read this, CurveGirl, please don't be offended or hurt by the things some "people" have said. There are some real pieces of shit out there, unfortunately. Please don't leave Reddit forever because this really is a great website most of the time! For all the asshole, piece of shit, no life trolls on Reddit, there are thousands of good and nice Redditors. :) Hope you read this! xo
WHITE KNIGHT!!!!!
Who are you looking at? Not me. Not 1000s of other redditors either.
To clear a couple of things up:
YOU are what's wrong with the internet. "A woman is willing to post naked pictures of herself hooray". What the hell is wrong with you?
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You're sort of wrong, girls tend to gravitate towards abuse. That said, not all girls, clearly. And reddit has been abusive for some time now. Legitimate comments get buried, sometimes the posters get burned because the group-think is rampant here, just like anywhere else.
The reddit community likes to think they're not evolved apes, that they have extra chromosomes that make them reasonable, enlightened atheistic scientists, but the reality is that they're just dumb apes. Me, you, and everyone else. Reddiquette is a lie.
One of the primary reasons I love the Reddit community is because it's one of the few remaining sites on the internet where you can post without the risk of being flamed for your opinion or being driven off the site. I even said to a friend earlier: "...it's like someone took the entire internet community and ran it through a strainer to sort out the idiots and flaming". I am disappoint.
At the end of the day nobody gives a shit.
This just in: Reddit is a site accessible world-wide, where there are many people with many different points of view.
Which is dumber.... a handful of people with badly thought out points of view, or tarring the entire website's contributors with the same brush?
I can't really say more than this. She looks like a nice girl too. Reddit, I'm disappointed. :(
Soon the only women left on the Internet will be men.
Can't we do a witch hunt on the people who did the witch hunt and drive them out as well?
The hunters have become the hunted.
This couldn't possibly back fire.
shes not hot stop being a white knight
You do realize that you're falling to the level of the people you're insulting right? Anyone who posts a picture of themselves on a site where users can remain completely anonymous is in for a well-needed reality check.
i bet they got here from digg
edit: and 4chan
WHO THE FUCK CARES THAT 1 PERSON GOT SCARED OFF. IF THIS WAS A MAN WHO RECEIVED THE SAME ATTENTION NO ONE WOULD GIVE A SHIT SO WE SHOULDN'T FUCKING GIVE A SHIT NOW.
Let's all show human CONCERN for REVERAND MOON's legal difficulties!!
Are you that starved to see naked woman that your gonna sympathasize with some fat loser. If your ugly I don't want to see naked pictures of you. Your calling everyone else virgins when to me its obvious that your a virgin. Stop making this into a tragedy she was fat, she was ugly, your a fag
Whatever, the stupid whore posted nude pictures of herself online, that's insanely dumb and the bitch got what she deserved.
You say that as if it were a threat as opposed to a given.
Should have stayed in the kitchen.
I can find naked girls anytime I want on the internet. Girl was an attention whore, end of story.
Ugly and fat, kind of like the girl referred to in the original post?
Considering she's at least confident enough to post her pics openly, I find her beautiful...confidence is beauty, belittling someone via the internet is ugly.
More like your mom, asshole