I want so badly to be OKAY with being OAD.

Edit: So many beautiful and helpful responses. Thank you from the bottom of my heart to each of you who took the time to give advice/solidarity. I don’t know that I feel more decided either way, but I have new perspectives to ponder, and that helps a lot. I feel so much less alone in my struggle. I wish I could hug you all, and I wish I could find friends like you in the real world. ❤️

This turned out a bit longer than I expected it to be, but it feels good to get it out...

I had my son 14 months ago. The pregnancy was full of symptoms, none serious but all annoying (insane heartburn, a mysterious rash on my hand that still hasn’t resolved, other BS I’ve blocked from memories). The L&D was a planned home birth with a midwife, turned hospital birth after five hours of ACTIVE PUSHING would not get my damn kid’s head fully out of me. The stupid midwife should’ve given me an episiotomy, but she didn’t. Instead I hobbled out of my house with my son’s head half out of me and rode to the hospital literally on all fours in the back seat of my husband’s car and had to walk in the front door of the hospital like this, having a contraction right in the automatic sliding doors of the entry way. Literally a minute after our arrival, son was born flying out of my vagina after the small snip of an episiotomy.

In addition to the pain of the many thousands we weren’t expecting to spend on the birth (though I had insurance!), I was so MAD at the midwife for putting us through this. It felt like PTSD whenever I would think about it, I felt so cheated. I’d remind myself that we are so lucky to have a healthy son, that not everyone is so lucky. It would help the anger pass, but it still stings to think about the whole situation.

So, I’m really reluctant to go through the birth experience again. Let’s put that at the top of my list for wanting to be OAD. As for the rest of the list...

  1. My husband and I are finally feeling like WE are going to survive this first kid (without divorcing). The first 12 months were hell for us. We fought constantly. I likely had PPA undiagnosed, as I was so fucking awful to my husband. Mean, bitter, raging always. Never had those feelings toward my son, but my husband could do no right. I don’t want to risk feeling those feelings again. I don’t want to risk our marriage for a second kid.

  2. My kid is about 10 handfuls. He has been since the day he was born. Stubborn, needy. He is a whirlwind of energy, scales the furniture already, gets into everything, prefers playing with anything that’s not actually a toy. He never let me put him down in the beginning (still is strong-willed when he wants his mama, which is basically always). I did not plan to cosleep, but a bit over a month of no sleep (maybe 2 hours a night actually sleeping, not consecutive, trying desperately to get my son to sleep in the arm’s reach... thought I was going to die from sleep deprivation) led me to kick husband out of bed and sleep with baby on my chest. Then I discovered the book Sweet Sleep by La Leche League and it saved my life (taught me how to safely cosleep, finally got us sleeping many hours straight). We still cosleep. I want to try to get him to sleep on his own, and plan to try soon, but if it doesn’t work I want to maintain this ability to just give up and cosleep. Because I need my damn sleep. If I have another, that’s off the table. And what if the second is as needy and high-maintenance as this first? It will kill me, that’s what.

  3. Money. We recently relocated because my husband got his dream job. I had to close down a business (a real one, brick & mortar) before we moved. We currently live right at the upper limit of our budget without a huge ability to save much extra at the moment (housing is soo much more here than where we moved from). I’d like to go back to my career at some point, but until then I’m manipulating our budget to be able to stay at home with my kid for now. With one this is possible, and we will rebuild our savings again by living simply and spending less.

  4. We’re not kid people. We love our son to pieces, but could have been happy not having kids. I still don’t like other kids much (seriously didn’t like most kids even when I was one).

  5. We tried to have a second dog and a second cat. Both attempts failed miserably, and the animals were returned. Both are separate, long stories. Both decisions were difficult to make at the moment, but definitely the RIGHT decisions for our family, and we’re glad we made the decisions we did. It sounds silly, but I really worry about introducing a second kid into our comfortable world because WE CAN’T GIVE IT BACK.

  6. General sanity. My husband is an extrovert and needs more of a social life than he currently has. I’m an introvert and need more alone time than I currently have. We both long for time for our hobbies again. Another kid won’t help this cause.

These are plenty of great reasons to not entertain the idea of another, and yet I still do entertain that idea. Some of those reasons:

  1. What if I regret it later?
  2. What if I die? Or my husband?
  3. Playing board games as a family later on will be more fun with 4. (Husband and I love games.)
  4. What if my kid is lonely because I’m introverted and don’t take him out enough?
  5. What if I regret it later?
  6. Seriously, what if I regret it later.

1, 5 and 6 are so huge. Part of me feels like if we just go ahead and have another, we’ll just have no choice but to accept it and move on and work it out. The decision will no longer haunt me. I always thought I’d have two, until I had the one. Will the second ghost of a child always haunt me until I bring him or her into this world?!

I don’t know what I’m looking for. Solidarity? Advice? Anyone feel similar things?

Edit to add: This sounds very one-sided as I read it back, but I assure you it’s not. My husband and I both struggle with this decision. We both have siblings that we love, though weren’t close to as kids. We both often say that we got it right the first time, so why ruin a good thing. We both fear regretting not having another. My husband seems to lean more toward OAD, but would have another if I really felt strongly about having another.

Posted Jul 18, 2019, 10:46 PM UTC · edited

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dathyni•

I would much rather regret the idea of a person than the person itself. Hence the one kid.

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neesiewee•

THIS. so simple but accurate

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justgivemesnacks•

You put this brilliantly.

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justgivemesnacks•

Life is full of these crossroads, and we can wonder about the potential other ones but..

You could have a second with severe special needs

You could have a second who doesn’t get along at all with the first.

You could have a second who hates board games.

And, if I can get super dark for a minute, my gf is also OAD and she pointed out.. if anything happened to her kid, if she had a second child she would have to keep on living for that one.

It also might be.. that what you think is potential regret is part of a mourning process you’re going through. It’s not that you want a second, but you want a chance to do over the first pregnancy and have that glowy promised pregnancy and you would go into it knowing all the things you know now. But that’s also a lie, cause you’d be doing it with your kid now. For me, it’s not even that I want to have another (don’t) but that I wish I could go back and enjoy that first year more without the heavy haze of PPD. Honor your grief.

Also BTW - things get so much more fun around 15m.

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soulsindistress•

For me, it’s not even that I want to have another (don’t) but that I wish I could go back and enjoy that first year more without the heavy haze of PPD. Honor your grief.

Thank you. I really needed this today.

Also BTW - things get so much more fun around 15m.

And seconded! My (almost in 1 week) 15 month old is an entirely different ball game now than she was even at 12 mo.

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savoytruffle16•

Also BTW - things get so much more fun around 15m.

Is this really true?? My daughter is 13 months and I feel like I've been waiting forever for things to get "fun." Hard to imagine anything will be drastically different just two months from now. 😕 I've also heard 18 months is "the best" age, whatever that means.

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bhamnz•

Were at 16 months and its pretty good! Little girl is giggling constantly, up to mischief, able to follow lots of instructions, has some words, started recognizing things in books / photos, loves other people. She shares toys and food and loves being around other kids. Every month they bloom and grow and change, it's cool!

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justgivemesnacks•

It’s true! I wouldn’t say best, but something happens in their development around 15 months. They bloom and become much more aware and engaging

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bicyclecat•

Some people can’t stand 18 mo. Really depends on the kid (some start really pushing boundaries at that age, or get frustrated because they can’t communicate well) and the adult. My daughter is 23 mo and things kind of went back and forth for awhile but have been steadily getting easier and more fun since maybe 16-ish months. 23 mo is better than 18 for us because she can talk more and has chilled a bit.

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nickipinc•

You put it so eloquently re: a do-over pregnancy.

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GingerSnap0312•

After I had my daughter, the initial plan was to wait five years before trying for another. In those five years we came to the conclusion that we are OAD. Your son is only 14 months old. Give yourself time to think and to heal. Get used to your new "normal" before you decide if you want to expand your family.

PS: You can still have fun playing board games with three. My daughter and I do a great job ganging up on my husband!

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keakealani•

One piece of advice a mentor gave me, is that when you’re at a crossroads, it helps to visualize both scenarios, 100%, for 24 hours.

So in this case, maybe it’s waking up one morning as if you had just been sterilized and will never adopt; at this point you’re 100% OAD. Go through your life both in terms of what that looks like now, and as best you can what that looks like later (when kid is at school, graduating from high school, your retirement....dream big). Just sit with that decision for a day and see what you feel in your gut. Then, do the same thing tomorrow but the opposite. You’ve decided you’re definitely ready for #2, maybe you’ve already even peed on a stick and got a positive test. Go through that day feeling what that’s like. Again, best you can, visualize both the short-term feelings and long-term feelings.

In the end of this process, often, you have a really good gut feeling about what feels “right” deep down inside. If it’s dread and disappointment to only have one kid - try for #2. If it’s overwhelming fear to have multiple kids....stay OAD (and, it’s worth pointing out, in real life of course you don’t have to get sterilized, and you can absolutely reconsider in a few years - age gaps are nothing new.)

This is such a personal process that I think nobody can really tell you what’s right for you, except you. So give yourself the time and mental space to truly consider, on a visceral level, what each choice is like. Ideally, you will know right away which one you want.

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kienemaus•

Thank you for this thought tool

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keakealani•

Like I said, I borrowed it from a mentor many moons ago. But I have used this tool for many life decisions and so far, it has been a very useful way to frame difficult decisions :)

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kemamo15•

We were also set on OAD and came to the same crossroads. We both constantly went back and fourth and laid out all the “what ifs”. Our daughter is amazing. She is funny, sweet, ornery, smart, beautiful, independent.. the absolute light of our life. She was not an easy baby by any means. We always joke that as a baby she hated being a baby. She was so colicky, and definitely gave us a run for our money. I had awful PPA and took it all out on my husband as well. I was so ugly to him all of the time for no reason. We didn’t have sex for over a year. We really really suffered. I didn’t realize how bad I was suffering and how much I was putting the blame on him. It was just a really rough time. As my daughter got older, and more independent, we really started questioning our OAD choice. My husband is an only child, so he was fairly certain OAD was right. I have two siblings, one is shit, and one I absolutely adore. I just couldn’t shake the feeling of our family not feeling complete. After our daughter turned 2, we decided to just try and if it happened, great, if not, then that’s cool too. If we weren’t pregnant by my daughters 3rd birthday then we would just be OAD. The more independent she got, the harder it was to want to go back to that baby phase. And I have pretty severe health anxiety. Knowing all the things that can go wrong during pregnancy and labor would cause me frequent panic attacks. Even more so when thinking about being pregnant a second time and something happening that would take me away from my daughter.

Four months into trying, I was pregnant. My pregnancy with my daughter was rough. I had awful morning sickness throughout. But the second time around was complete opposite. And because I was so consumed with toddler life, my anxiety wasn’t nearly as bad. I will say the pregnancy physically was harder the second time but overall, everything went smooth. I had a baby boy shortly after my daughter turned 3. The first 3 weeks sucked. HUGE adjustment. I wondered why we did this. And then, it all just worked. My daughter didn’t have a rough time adjusting. She adores him. And is SO good with him. And he is completely opposite of how she was as a baby...Chill, hardly cries, an amazing eater, sleeps fairly well. I have had no PPA this time around. It has made me realize just how bad it was with my daughter. And as exhausted as I am, things just feel right and complete. I realize we are SO lucky to have two healthy kids. And I was SO lucky to have two textbook pregnancy’s and labors.

There is no wrong decision in this. We would’ve been content with OAD. I think what helped us was when we decided on a timeline. We felt it took the indecisiveness away, and whatever happened we would be fine with.

Your feelings, thoughts, and experiences just sounded so similar to mine I thought I would share my story.

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nodicegrandma•

Sorry to hear you birth was disappointing. You have to go through and grieve that loss. I always wanted to Labor, thought it was a “right of motherhood”...welp I had a complete placenta previa that ended in a hospitalization and planned c section, I only felt a few minor contractions that had to be stopped. It’s a loss, even though people put it in the light of “all is well that ends well” but it isn’t that easy. We are OAD, I will never know what it is like to Labor, and that’s a huge disappointment and loss. It is a process, you are still in the thick of it.

Also I have a 14 month old! Born on May 18!

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forestrygirl•

You can’t live your life deciding things based on whether or not you’d regret it. You will never know if you don’t do it, yes, but that doesn’t mean you should.

Would you leave a job you were happy at and made enough money at, just because you might regret staying in the same job?

Would you try eating a puffer fish which is poisonous when prepared incorrectly, just because you might regret not trying it?

It’s kindof hard to create similar examples but I think my point come across. Living your life making decisions based on the hypothetical is highly problematic. You wouldn’t think like this about so many other things. Also, you already know that a child is a person who will have a life and take up YEARS of your life and your resources.

Most mothers love all of their children and never regret having them. The logical conclusion from that line of thinking then would be that everyone should have as many kids as they can because they never regret creating the lives of their children. But that’s not how it is, there are other factors at play beyond the potential for regret.

You give a lot of really solid reasons to be OAD. It might be worth putting some time into looking within to discover the source of your self-doubt.

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kelseyhart24•

I’m an ally to this subculture. There’s no right or wrong answer to this question. Maybe go the not trying and not preventing route for a one to six months. Then reevaluate if you’re not expecting after six months. Like I typed above, there’s no definitive answer.

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Arkobs•

I have all the same questions and feelings that you do. I also feel just the general shock at what my labor & delivery were like, and the hell of the first year - even though neither of these experiences were extraordinary (pushed for 4 hours in hospital then got a vacuum, baby friendly hospital really brought me down for the next few days, etc). Your story sounds so hard and I would definitely have ptsd from that too. But yeah, all the thoughts and the most pressing is - but what if I regret it later. So no answer from me but definite solidarity.

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Lr20005•

I honestly didn’t feel at peace with being OAD until my son was older, and people stopped asking me when I was having another. It seemed like once he was about 3.5, and all the relatives and friends had all gotten tired of asking when the next baby was coming and were finally convinced that it wasn’t going to happen haha. Then I was able to really settled into things and make peace with my decision. I still have little twinges of guilt, like when my son (he’s 8 now) tells me he wishes he had a brother...he’s done this a few times now, and it is hard. But our life is so great, and I know having another child would be disastrous for my marriage and our family, so this was the best way for us.

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RagAndBows•

I'm seriously so back and forth every day. I honestly think I'm leaning towards having another baby. I know it makes the most sense to be done but my heart aches for another :/

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forktiner•

I get it. I struggle with my OAD decision sometimes also. SO and I haven’t pulled the trigger on permanent surgical birth control yet. He has had the urologist consultation.

I have the biggest fear that you have... what if I regret it. I’m still leaning towards OAD because I would much rather regret a child that doesn’t exist than one that does. Yes, if you went ahead and had another, you would have no choice but to accept the child and move on. The same logic is applicable to you not having another as well though. Eventually you have to accept either decision and move on.

I was an only child and my childhood was great. My parents are both extremely introverted, but I’m outgoing and I have maintained lifelong friendships with no problem. I was never and am not now lonely without siblings.

I hope you’re able to make a decision and feel at peace with it. Good luck to you.

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Shadowy_lady•

There are so many decisions in your life that could have potential for regrets later. You cannot dwell on those or life will pass you by. Thinking your may regret something, is just that, a feeling.

For example: 1. what if i regret marrying this person? What if I regret taking this job offer? what if I regret buying this house? What if I regret eating this ice cream?

As adults, we make well thought decisions based on information on hands. With the info you give, I believe OAD is a great option for you guys.

If you going down the route of what if's, there is also the other side: 1. what if your second child is stillborn/has a serious medical condition/disability? what if your second child ends up being a horrible person (not everything you can control)? what if the two children hate each other?

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ETA - I have an almost 7 year old daughter and we play board games as a family all the time. Meanwhile as a child myself, my sister hated them and the idea of losing so we never played it. She threw a fit if things didn't go her way. Also as adults my sister and I do not speak. She has BPD.

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tokiedokie410•

Your reasons for not having another kid are very objective while your reasons to have one are based on a lot of presumptions, some of which can be adjusted. You can work on overcoming your introverted tendencies if you noticed it was negatively affecting your child. You can find a fourth person for game night (your child will eventually have friends or maybe cousins who can join you some times) and plenty of games are still fun with just three people. But don't let an assumption of regret put you into a situation that can have a lot of negative impact. You may miss the idea of having another child, but you'll also have all of the happy memories of the life you were able to build with the amazing kid you already have.

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Allthepickles1•

I have to say I am so happy that I found this sub, I struggle with each and every feeling all of you have expressed. I am an only child and always wanted a sibling growing up so I want to give that to my son (19 months) but I had severe PPD and PPA and sooooo badly wish that I could re-do that year happily (meds were a lifesaver for me) At this time I am thinking about going the route of trying when he's 3 1/2 or 4 mostly because its far enough away right now to not scare me my husband wants another but is ok with being OAD as well.

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asquared3•

The thing with regret is it works both ways. I’m terrified of having another one and regretting that decision, and there’s no going back. If you regret not having another, that’s much easier to change. There’s also no reason you have to decide right this minute. Give it some time and you might get more clarity.

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Xo_pixie_xo•

I’m one and done. My son just turned 7. My whole life I KNEW I wanted two. I had my first and everything about the pregnancy was beautiful. My postpartum experience, horrible. I was terribly injured. When my son was still a baby my husband and I separated then divorced. The time away was needed and we eventually got remarried about two years ago. Even after getting back together I wanted another one.

I’ve come to realize that our family is perfect the way it is. Financially we could have another, but it would make money VERY tight. I love having extra money to use for my son. I take him so many places and we have so many experiences. I’m an outgoing introvert, so I LOVE going out with my friends, but I HAVE to have alone time to recharge. My husband has asperger’s so he needs a lot of time alone.

In the end my son learned to communicate with adults a lot then made some great friends at school. He LOVES table top games and it really is fun to play with him. He’s extremely intelligent because we’re able to focus on him and not be interrupted by another child. I KNOW he would be a wonderful big brother and I feel sad sometimes that he will never get to experience that. But I know being one and done is the RIGHT thing to do for our family.

Follow your gut. If you have another then realize it was a mistake, you’re right, you CAN’T give it back. You do you, and y’all decide what would be best for your family. I wish you luck Internet Friend.

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shazzacanuk•

Solidarity. I had a wretched pregnancy and a c section with a very challenging recovery. We are living at the edge of our means. I am a writer and need me time to write and be creative. My husband is a therapist and needs downtime to decompress from his workday. Our son is amazing, super sweet, sleeps like a dream, very healthy. I keep worrying that if we have another the child would be a disappointment compared to my first, he is honestly a lot to live up to. Also we are older and the risk of autism (which my nephew has a severe form of), downs syndrome and other health issues all are higher.

All that being said, I have this little girl in my heart that I feel is waiting to be a part of our family. It sounds so corny, but I just feel like she is what will make our family complete. But the only way she will come.into our family is by accident, and I won't be pushing natures hand with that one.

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Baileys_Cave•

I agree with you for different reasons. We have had no help and support system with our 8 month old, however I feel like we are getting good at this parenting thing without much help. Also, we love our daughter and she has been a great blessing, and my husband is able to stay home with her and I provide just fine...

That said, I think my life was literally at risk by having her. I had gestation diabetes, hypertension, failed induction, and an emergency c section where I bleed a lot. I already suffer from herniated discs so I struggled to get around 3rs trimester and post partem for 3 months thereafter. It's been 8 months as I said, and I am down 35 lbs with 20 lbs to be so my health is getting better. I have no time to exercise and when I do I still need to keep eye on baby or weather is horrible/stores are closed. I broke down and bought a treadmill this week and hope it helps. My blood pressure still runs 140/90 on average, and I am in my 40s. I cant believe I am still struggling health wise almost 9 months later. I eat well and was super fit/thin before I got pregnant.

It's just I think I have to be realistic and reluctantly by OAD, I want to be alive to be there for my daughter and husband physically, emotionally and financially. I will my brain would just tell my heart!

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