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Why in any realm of logic or reason are 100 basic flag stacks in the loot table for Supercontainers at all?

I'm done playing for the day because this stuff just makes me feel like WG are taking the piss. A Supercontainer is rare enough that it should always award something cool.

Flags are not cool. Especially that they can very easily be gotten from the Armoury.

Yes, I realise that a newbie at Tier 3 who doesn't have 3000+ Zulu Hotel flags and does not spend money on an FTP game would find these useful, I would expect even they would be disappointed to receive such an utterly worthless drop.

There's no need for Supercontainers to follow the formula for other containers where they are incentivised to drive sales through gambling for the top drops by having "boobie prizes" in the possibilities. Supercontainers are not purchaseable, so should not have low value drops like this one.

A Supercontainer should always be Super. They are not called PissYouOffContainers or BuyMoreDoubloonsForAnotherRoll containers.

Please, please please WG - revise the loot table for Supercontainers. 100 Dragon flags or 100 of a rare camo (like Gamescon Black for example) should be the minimum level of reward from a Supercontainer. This, along with Coal and Steel awards gives plenty of meat in the table for RNG to pick from. I'm not ranting here that we should get ships every time or anything, but 100 low value flags is pretty insulting.

And yes, I know it's free stuff that I didn't have to do anything to get, but it's soured my enjoyment of my gaming session - and that does have value. With better rewards, I believe we would get excited for Supercontainers again, and that would be nice. Everyone on Discord groans when they get one because they know it will be gash.

Make Supercontainers Super Again!

Posted Sep 28, 2019, 9:21 AM UTC

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BirthHole•

I always felt that the contents of a SC should be dynamic based on what the player already has and should be given an award based on a % instead of a fixed amount.

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SteveThePurpleCatDitch subs or account goes. •

If you mean in terms of more flags or a higher chance to win ships etc. That would kick off a whole new world of arguments with people unhappy that the whales would be getting greater awards.

unless you meant in terms of the system giving flags that you have the least amount of that would be cool, but doesn't really address the whole issue of flags being a bit to the kick to the balls when you see that big shiny SC open up.

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w4spl3g•

Whales should be getting greater rewards, they're paying for the game, and more pixel boat currency or whatever isn't going to add any more imbalance than the already P2W aspects of the game do.

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SteveThePurpleCatDitch subs or account goes. •

That's a valid opinion, but I stand by my suggestion that it would cause a whole world of drama regardless!

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Binary_ToastBurnt, or soggy?•

More or less my thoughts. Even normal flags are fine, if it gives me the ones I only have 60 of, rather than the a kind I've already got 300 of.

That's all I really want out of super(signal)containers, for them to give me what I'm starting to run out of, not something to last me well into next year.

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AttentionOnDeck41•

I'd say about 80% of my supercontainers are combat flags or cheap camos. Really the SCs are so not super that I barely get excited when I see them anymore. Of course the second I see what shows up I get excited it may be a ship, but after SOOOO many fails, and one or two mehbotes, it really is a unicorn to think I'll score something good.

Weeks of premium time, doubloons, premium flags, and free xp are about the only thing i like....not even coal is cool to me anymore since 15k is like 1/12 of a ship in the armory.

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black_falcon121•

Just fyi here are the statistics. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18WtWfK3o9p1nBbrw_GIB8yoQBk21uNfXUYIaSxgpqqs/edit?usp=sharing

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LineCutterOPCollector Elite•

See... a Supercontainer should not be dropping guff over half the time.

Drop "100 Normal Flags" and "25 Special Flags" and we're almost there. Make the "50 camos" into 100 and make them pull from the better ones like Type 59 or Hunter and stuff and I'd be way more happy that Supercontainers would be now more than a negative experience.

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AttentionOnDeck41•

i wish i had those numbers, i get normal flags way more often than ~1/3 of the time

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AttentionOnDeck41•

Only thing from the spreadsheet that jives with my experience are the premium ships and coal (maybe a bit more coal)

Also, Ive gotten 25-50 special flags, or 100 normal flags about 65%

On the luckier side Ive gotten a month of premium before, and I have not got 100 SCs. Also I think I've gotten 50k free xp more often than 6%.

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Knodsil•

Have you actually gotten some ships out of random SC's? I have never recieved one.

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AttentionOnDeck41•

Early on I got a Duca Daosta, then late last year I got a Krispy Kreme.

Duca isn't half bad, but it is very specific. Krispy Kreme is a meme that is one tier higher than it probably should be. They are both port queens for me.

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ShinanegashimaSmoked Salt•

TFW you just want your regular resources container over a super container.

"A Super Container... Ah fuck, not again!"

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Kuneus•

Same. Give me the real SC of 1200 coal resource over another 100 det flags any day of the week. The moral loss alone isn't worth the 1% chance of actually getting something good.

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Fox896•

Got 15k coal out of one, was pretty happy with it.

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ShinanegashimaSmoked Salt•

Yes, when that happens it's awesome. But let's be real, it is rather rare, and overall when you get the SC, it is very likely going to be a downgrade from even a 400 coal resources container.

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fr33andcl34rFeuer Frei!•

The 1500 steel one isn't bad either.

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jaqattack02[DENY] - NA•

That's what I've been wanting. Heck, i wish you could get 100 steel out of a resource container. I'm like 1000 short of getting a ship.

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ValinorDragon•

Yup, Feels like you have a chance to get a super container. Then you have a chance for it to be actually great... such is life on a F2P game... and recent P2P games for that matter.

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Ew_E50M•

Last time i got something that wasnt worthless useless flags out of an SC was, oof, 45 supercontainers ago? 1000 dubloons, rest are all worthless flags and camos.

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R0CKFISH22•

Not to hijack your thread but I always thought it would be interesting if WG had a system where every non-SC you opened increased the chance for your next SC to drop. I think it would alleviate a lot of the discrepancies that players have where someone casually logs on and they seem to pop a SC every other week and then their friend who plays every single day hasn't seen one in month.

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ZurichianAnimationsTone when?•

Wargaming will probably never change them, we've been telling them this for years... But you know its a problem when I'd rather just refuse the super container so I can get my coal container. Can WG at least make that an option? I wish wargaming would at least acknowledge the problem. And we should all ask about it in the next QnA. Try and force an answer.

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w4spl3g•

I had 20 SCs from the anniversary event. 1 of them had 2500 dubloons (I already had 44k but whatever, = or less than $10 isn't terrible), 1 of them had 14 days of premium time (I already had 640 days but whatever), ALL of the rest were flags/camos. Underwhelmed, yes, but I've come to expect this from the new and ever greedier WG, 2 - 3 years ago they were far more "generous", especially to paying customers; now? Not so much.

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Flashtirade•

In all likelyhood WG diluted the reward tables of SCs after buffing their drop rate (following all the previous complaints of SC droughts). What they didn't take into account is the anniversary account where SCs are supposed to be the reward for getting to T10. Or maybe they won't change it because simply getting to T10 isn't that much of an achievement anymore.

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IanH7554 years of WoWS and WG are still doing dumb shit!!!•

Getting to T10 is not an "achievement". You can be an utter potato earning less than 300 Base XP every match and you will STILL get to T10 if you just play enough games (around 4k).

It's the biggest "end game" problem with WoWS/WoT etc which don't have a "skill cap" method of progression like Gran Turismo and it's License system did - Not good enough to pass the T7 "License", no T8 ships for you - which would of course ruin the game as all the "Premium Shop Paying" potatos leave.

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Ricky_RZPeople's Liberation Army Navy•

Imagine getting a CRAP TON of ramming flags...

Talk about pathetic rewards...

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poncygit•

As someone unlucky enough to have gotten ramming flags from a sc I can confirm that it does indeed feel like an insult from wg, only worse since getting the worthless sc actually cost me what I would have gotten otherwise, whereas an insult costs me nothing.
In short, I would have preferred one of the wg devs to call me up and call me a cuck instead of getting that sc replacing my resource box.

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Ricky_RZPeople's Liberation Army Navy•

Exactly. I would MUCH rather have 500 coal rather than 2000 ramming flags. Complete waste of SC

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Boatsntanks•

IMO they could keep the same drops, but have a "Convert to Coal" option if you don't like the reward rolled. Amount of coal could be based on the rarity of the drop rolled.

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LineCutterOPCollector Elite•

I like it, but I think it's very unlikely - controlling resources is a key part of the payment model.

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Ph3NiX1980•

As a player that never got a ship+10p captain from a single SC I agree in principle.

Also, getting a shitty low-tier ship from a SC counts as 💯 shitty flags in my book, so you see, the possibilities of getting screwed by a ‘bad SC’ are always there.

Think of it as free extra stuff you get once in a while and you’ll be fine.

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Rylt4r•

I got Exeter from SC...it's like autistic Furutaka made from Tea Boxes.

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AttentionOnDeck41•

Don't you love all the mehbotes they give away so that they can say people do actually win ships.

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Lianides•

Just remember, free stuff is free. Quit complaining.

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kingkongman2•

Well they could make the special loot a little more interesting.
And nothing is really free

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Capt_Hangoverrrr[BYOB] [EU] We are Recruiting •

Sure it’s free. But if you get something you already have plenty off a super container isn’t a super container.

Odds of supercontainer are low. And to get one with 100 flags of which you already own 1500 is a let down.

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AttentionOnDeck41•

When a product is free, you are the product.

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kweniston•

Veteran player with 20000 flags whining over getting flags that help the grind for everybody else. Yeah.

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marshaln•

Pretty sure even new players find ramming flags of questionable value

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LineCutterOPCollector Elite•

Not really. But thanks for playing.

My point is this doesn't really help the grind for everybody else. You seriously want 100 +50% Captain XP flags instead of 100 +100% XP AND Captain XP or +333% Captain XP?

Oooookay then....

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kweniston•

I want a ship in every super container, or 6 months premium.

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