Zen 3 on AM4?
As the title says will the ryzen 4000s be on an AM4 socket?
Posted Oct 4, 2019, 4:16 AM UTC
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No official info, but I suspect it will, simply because they won't change socket for no reason, the reason being DDR5, which is not even released yet. The biggest hint is that Zen 3 Epyc will use DDR4 (confirmed during an interview with an AMD head, I think it was Papermaster Forest Norrod )
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I wouldn’t count on it, but there’s a possibility. AM4 has had a good run so far either way.
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AMD is much more customers friendly with their sockets. Remember Intel? Every new 4 core cpu got a new socket, so you had to buy always even a new board. That's crazy. Now they lower the price of their new extreme series up to 50%. I guess you all know why.
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I think yes, there are a lot of X570 boards with Bios flash back button on them, far more then X370 or X470. so i believe it was done so that people could buy X570 board with Ryzen 4000 so that AMD wont have to sent loan CPU's just for people to upgrade.
Edit: Regarding DDR5, i think we are still quite far from this so maybe another Gen on DDR4?
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Ah. Yes i got a x570 so that I could possibly use it with a 4000 with ease hopefully
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It wont really matter. Even if some boards on x470 can potentially support PCIe gen4 they want you to use x570 boards for it anyway.
So even if DDR5 will be released and even if the socket will be the same. They will want you to buy a new board for zen 3 anyway, no matter what.
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am4 will be good until 2021. then they will produce the next gen on a new socket.
amd has stated from the beginning that this is the plan.
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I think they'll rename it to something else than zen before going to am5
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50/50 would be my bet. DDR5 might be out in late 2020, but won't be affordable until probably 2021. Switching to AM5 in 2021 to support DDR5 would be much better. Plus it would be all 5's then. DDR5, 5nm, PCI-E 5, AM5, and Ryzen 5000.
xD The fancy way of not knowing anything and yet still answering.
And it will drop on 5/5, probably...
except for architecture name, which _has_ to be confusing... zen4abba?
DDR5 doesn't automatically mean it's using a new socket. Although I admit ever since the RAM controller was moved from the northbridge into the CPU this will be a bit more difficult.
But in theory it could be an AM4+ socket that supports some AM4 mainboards and just doesn't let you use DDR5 with the chip. When it worked with Skylake, why shouldn't it work with Zen...
The pin counts are the same for both DDR4 and DDR5. They might be able to keep using AM4. Intel supported both DDR3 (at 1.35V) and DDR4 for years (although the motherboard decided which one could physically be used), so it seems possible for AMD to support both.