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Colrae

How to fix Curse for 3* Dark MC70

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Since every last 3* fire skill was upgraded with Burn in MC70. It stands to reason that Dark 3* characters will be getting Curse.

Curse is a problematic debuff for players to inflict on an enemy. You can't very well have Curse break the attack pattern of a fight like HJP, it would be chaos.

How can Curse be fixed?

My first idea is to update the debuff so that Curse can be applied with similar success to Burn. When under Curse, enemies will either be prevented from using skills OR will cause them damage when they use skills.

Posted Jan 3, 2020, 12:20 AM UTC

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AlphaWhelpJohanna•

Nah. If you can interrupt dragons with stun and freeze and sleep curse should work the same way. Just consider it similar to stun for them.

That said they are most likely getting poison. If you look at the update with the Alex buff it says they're planning on adding huge buffs to poison.

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TodorokillDelphi•

I missed that they were buffing poison, dang i’m hoping Delphi becomes meta to some extent at least. Though it feels like many units will just be doing his role and possibly better. I’m scared

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SomeGuyWhoHidesInBedFrancesca BEST girl.•

It'll take a lot for Delphi to be powercrept on a Poison based team. He has; a higher chance of inflicting poison on enemies, significantly stronger poison than anyone else, and good skills. Unless a better poison applier comes out, he should be good for Poison based teams for a long time.

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TodorokillDelphi•

Idk Cassandra and Alex have already got the poison dmg added and with how well some of the buffed fire adventurers have turned out, i wouldn’t be surprised if they outperformed him because of having both poison dmg and a better attack stat. I’m not trying to be too srs about it or anything, no real proof yet but i’m just wondering

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JolanjJoestar•

And if he does get Powercrept, he'll get 70MC in the same update that turns his Poison into Corrosion (which is just different colour poison that stacks with it)

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ColraeOPRicardt•

Those are only normal dragons. Stun/Freeze/Sleep does not work on any endgame fight like the High Dragons.

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AlphaWhelpJohanna•

Errr, yes they do. The only exception is HBH.

You can also stun Volk

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ColraeOPRicardt•

No meaningful affect anywhere on the same scale that Burn has.

Edit: I concede my lack of knowledge on the master fight makes me unaware of these points. Curse would seem rather broken if it could prevent multiple skill triggers in the same way.

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AlphaWhelpJohanna•

Except you know you can completely skip the Whirlpool attack of mhmc and also the only reason anyone was ever able to kill mHJP but sure.

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AlexanderThePrettyOkEzelith•

Well sure, but meaningful enough to bypass some of the hardest hitting skill the dragons have, including the opening blast.

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AwkwardSpaceTurtle•

? mHMS: 2nd set of gales are commonly stunned
mHBH: gelly 2xlily relies on bog at break mHMC: 2nd set of tidals are commonly stunned, can be slept if LY is in party but not common
mHJP: the cheese relies on stun/sleep, in week1 there was choco hawk instead of audric too, to stun the opening blast mHZD: nothing other than para here
eVolk: steal vitality, gales or bloodmoon are commonly stunned

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KingKennyboyAeleen•

more likely dark characters will get poison. We are already seeing old characters like Alex get poison on their skills, so its a more likely chance for the 70 nodes to introduce poison (or maybe some sort of def debuff) to their skills.

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finnbulvetr•

If poison becomes standard on Dark units, would Delphi's value increase or drop?

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AutumnLiteratist•

I doubt it, Delphi is able to inflict poison outside of his skills and can inflict a sizeable defense debuff on enemies. If he ever did get powercrept, they could just remove his power limiters and take away the -60% strength trait using the mana spiral.

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ColraeOPRicardt•

Poison is possible, but would feel a bit sad since Wind will probably already be getting poison.

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NoctisCepheusAeleen•

Wind will probably get sleep and/or poison. Depends on what they feel like doing. Maybe even stun since hawk has it. Wind has a lot going for them. Even if it will be the same as dark, i'd be happy for it since it might bring up interesting team comps consisting of both dark and wind.

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LeponyFrancesca•

Is there any reason at all to fix curse? It's currently literally impossible to inflict because it doesn't exist.

If they actually implement curse as an affliction, I imagine it'll be wildly different to the ones that enemies can inflict.

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Arranos•

You can't fix what hasn't been implemented.

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EVLEWT•

Given that Cassandra and Alex got poison added to their kits and Ieyasu got a damage boost on poisoned enemies, it's pretty certain that Shadow is getting poison added via the mana spiral.

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Arranos•

Maybe start by having units and dragons that can actually inflict it.

Because we have nothing that can inflict Curse on enemies.

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Superspick•

I kinda wish they’d have thought of something sooner like just giving a % chance to proc the affliction based buff on skill damage which would cause the affliction in targets they choose to make immune.

Don’t want to alllow us to Poison some boss? Okay well then poison punisher units should be getting a % chance to trigger the buff portion of their punisher skill (on a favorable elemental matchup, with a lower proc chance than the affliction would have) even without the affliction.

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BaraBlazerIeyasu•

Or sleep, or blind. Nepharia, Norwin, Kleimann, Sazanka uses those. Taro probably could get bleed.

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