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vurplesun•

I find these studies very fascinating.

The body is always going to produce a reward of some kind when you eat something that will nourish it. That's how it works. Just because your body is rewarding you doesn't mean it's good for you over the long term, though. You may crave fats, but is that a bad thing? That's where the question lies. Fats are very desirable, but they're also more satiating. So, they give you that happy rush, but it sticks with you. With things like sugar or carbs, you get that rush and then you crash.

That said, this article did make me cringe a little bit. Still clinging to the calories in versus calories out idea of weight maintenance. If it were that simple, losing or gaining weight would be a cinch.

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Onyxpanda•

Wait, what's wrong with calories in vs. calories out?

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TruthWillSetUsFree•

it completely ignores the possibility of improving metabolism by avoiding sugars and other refined carbs...

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gettinThereOP•

I found this interesting, but I wish I knew more about the study. When the article mentions fatty foods, it's always in reference to high-carb fatty foods, which would make a huge difference. If there is anyone who likes to research this kind of thing, I think it'd be interesting to find out what the fat solution was made of that created the cannaboid reaction.

While I have personally experienced the "can't eat just one (hundred)" reaction to fatty carbs, I have been steadily eating a high fat, low carb diet for several months now and have not had that reaction at all. In fact, I am satisfied much quicker when my meal is high in fats, as long as there are no (or very few) carbs involved.

That seems to be the consensus here, based on reading lots of posts about loss of appetite and easier satiation. Does anyone have a different experience?

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zapfastnetlong time ketard -a.k.a. runsWithScissors -- also OOOOOOLd!•

YES! I think you have the "crux of the biscuit" so to speak, correct. This study and most others like it never isolate fatty foods from fatty foods combined with sugar or other carbs. Eating fatty foods devoid of carbs I don't feel the reward feeling that vurplesun refers to in another response to your OP AND I often eat less than the portion that i originally allocated myself. Even if i make two pounds of bacon I never scarf it down in excess like I formerly would do with fatty sugary food like Ice Cream.

                   "What is your conceptual Continuity? "Frank Zappa
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gettinThereOP•

Agreed. And it even applies to low-carb sweetened foods. Give me a half-gallon of ice cream and I'm a gonner. But if I make it myself, using only cream, eggs, vanilla and sucrose, a half a cup does me just fine. A half a cup! Crazy.

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frogic•

FTA: . Among rats given liquid diets high in fat, sugar or protein, the ones who got the fatty liquid had a striking reaction: As soon as it hit their taste buds, their digestive systems began producing endocannabinoids, chemicals similar to those produced by marijuana use.

It appears they were given liquid fat, carbs, or protein. I know that a lot of studies have had this problem and I also anecdotally don't seem to get hungry often when I eat a high fat but it appears this study is just giving one of the three.

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gettinThereOP•

I'd like to see the actual ingredients of the liquids. Even a little sugar added to make the lipids "palatable" would throw off the study.

Something has to explain why the overall majority of this site - humans who are consistently eating high fats - agrees that fats satiate. I realize it is anecdotal, but there must be an explanation.

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elvisdechico1+ year in nutritional ketosis!•

did anyone else stop reading this, after "Yes, it’s still true that people gain weight because they eat more calories than they burn."?

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Rvish•

No, because that would be close minded.

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elvisdechico1+ year in nutritional ketosis!•

you don't think a journalist who makes a false statement might be prone to make other similarly false claims, intentionally or otherwise?

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Rvish•

A Food and Drug Administration committee already has rejected one diet drug that blocks endocannabinoids, called Acomplia in Europe, where it was later withdrawn because it had severe psychological side effects, including suicidal thoughts.

That says a lot. It also says a lot that the article implies craving fatty food is a bad thing, yet provides sugary/starchy food like ice cream, potato chips and chocolate brownies as examples.

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