r/IAmA•
32bites

Subreddit Announcement: Moderators

The topic has been raised recently that the community is starting to become upset owing to a lack of moderation and verification activity. We moderators are not ashamed to admit that our level of attention has waned quite considerably recently and we have not been verifying nor passing legitimate content through the filter as fast as we should have been. This will soon change:

Presently, our current plan is to bring in an influx (anywhere at the moment from between 8 to 20 new mods) of both seasoned trusted moderators from other subreddits as well as a large selection of ‘fresh blood’ into the moderation pool. Moderators will be vetted based on the criteria at the end of this post. We hope to select a wide range of users from a wide variety of timezones and countries so that the subreddit will be always maintained. With moderator-ship comes a few responsibilities, so you must be able to handle these well. Among these responsibilities there are included:

  • Commitment to the task
  • You must have an easy way to be contacted, be it e-mail, reddit or IRC
  • Willingness to debate policy with other moderators
  • Fairness and objective views to situations you would otherwise have strong opinions on
  • Linked with the previous point, respect for opinions and views that you do not share in

If you think that you would be suitable for this job, please send an email to [email protected] or send a moderator mail to the subreddit. You must be willing to provide a few examples of your trustworthiness and motivation to moderate. We do not simply want those who want the power under their belt.

Our largest potential concern is that a moderator whom we may add could end up being malicious and end up distributing sensitive confidential information of a user who has submitted personal information for the purposes of verification. This is why moderator addition remains a sensitive topic, so please appreciate our hesitation on the subject.

In your email or moderator mail for the application please include the following items:

  • Your primary reddit user-name
  • What communities you moderate (if any)
  • Why you feel like you would make a good moderator
  • How important you feel verification is to the community
  • Your opinion of censoring comments
  • Your opinion of removing posts that have been deemed ‘uninteresting’ yet are still valid
  • How active you feel you are on reddit
  • Whether you feel like you can commit to communicating in a calm and professional manner or an informal one
  • Your timezone in (GMT±X)
  • Your active hours in browsing reddit
  • How many hours you could give per day to modding reddit or how many days you could suitably say to visit the moderating activities

I know it seems like a lot but this subreddit is one that can potentially hold information vital to the jobs of our users and also to their personal safety. We will continue our no-tolerance policy on witch hunts or personal information being broadcast in the public forum even by the owner of this information in the interests of consistent policy; however, a common-sense approach will remain our best option to interacting with the readers.

Hopefully we can all together make this subreddit a better place for both content providers and those who ask questions.

Moderators who have contributed to this post include: BritishEnglishPolice and 32bites

NOTE

Do not post your applications here or message individual moderators, they will be ignored.

edit: uh someone asked for proof so here.

**notice: we will stop taking applications at 23:59:59 PST (GMT-7) on 2011-07-14. **

Posted Jul 12, 2011, 9:15 PM UTC · edited

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borez•

I like how this post is Confirmed true

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glassuser•

Well at least we got one in the past week.

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BigDreZ28•

lawl

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mavriksfan11•

CORRUPTION!

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Rusah•

Needs spaces.

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arcadeguy•

I do not understand how adding up to twenty more mods is going to do anything to improve this verification system. All you are doing is creating a significantly larger pool of anonymous strangers who will have access to any personal information the submitter has opted to provide for validation.

I believe anyone who submits personally revealing info to strangers on the internet is an idiot, so I don't see how adding more strangers to this pool is going to do anything. I guess it might speed up the process of verification, but the process isn't exactly extensive or complicated in itself.

Posts like this seem to happen about once every six weeks on this sub reddit. It's always complaining about the recent outbreak of fake AMAs (I like how it's always "recent") or the lack of verification or the influx of "uninteresting" AMAs (because we all have similar interests) or too many requests for AMAs.

The solution is always short lived. The IAMA Requests sub-Reddit was created to combat having the r/IAMA page from being split between IAMAs and requests. There is nothing about its existence on the r/IAMA sidebar, and it has 205 users. There have been 7 requests on it in the past month.

As for the verification process, that got "upgraded" from check marks to little dots. Currently, 22/25 dots on the front page are grey. 3 are green, two of which aren't even AMAs but announcements about AMAs. Regardless, that's still 3 more green dots than there usually are.

To cut to the chase here: If there's an occasional celebrity AMA, they'll confirm via Twitter. If there's a person with a particular job AMA, they'll post a partially blacked out ID card or picture (or simply be able to answer job-specific questions in a way that a quick google search couldn't do). If you have an amputated arm, quick pic and you're done.

Those are easy, and there are never problems with them. The problems almost always arise with posts about a unique situation a person was in. I had an abortion. My girlfriend attacked me. I sell drugs. I have OCD.

AMAs which fall into that category are very difficult (if not impossible) to objectively "prove." Could I scan a police report or medical transcript, black out the personal info, and e-mail it to a herd of strangers on the internet so the dot next to my post will change from grey to green? Sure! Am I going to? Fuck no. For so many reasons.

This verification system has been a miserable failure from the get go. Treat people who come here like adults, and allow them to decide for themselves what to believe on a case-by-case basis.

+edit:

Your opinion of censoring comments

Your opinion of removing posts that have been deemed ‘uninteresting’ yet are still valid

...are you serious?

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generic-name•

You have voiced my opinion about this subreddit way better than I ever could, especially about the verification process. I never liked the idea to begin with and you hit that point dead on.

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[deleted]•

I agree, mostly, but I think that private verification to a small pool of moderators is good for IAMA. There are certain things that you don't want to post on the internet for all to see (things that may identify you, but are not necessarily personal information.. id badges etc) forever, but you don't mind showing a small group of people.

I think more active mods, and not more mods is a better answer to the question 'how do we improve the verification process, and make it a normal part of the IAMA subreddit'.

I agree with verification in general (if the author wants to provide the requisite information) - it gives a lot more credibility to the information they are providing.

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rab777hp•

I vote we scrap iAmA's mods and just replace the governing structure with arcadeguy.

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BritishEnglishPoliceMOD•

I'll answer the last bit in this comment for clarity.

It's always interesting to see how a moderator views the censorship of comments. I'm not going to give the answer we're looking for out here, but there is a definite reason we ask those questions and anything but the right answer on those two signifies you probably shouldn't be a content moderator.

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kirstead•

HINT: THE ANSWER IS THAT IT'S BAD

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Vespera•

I don't see how adding more moderators isn't going to improve this subreddit. If this subreddit's already a desolate place in terms of moderator activity, why not introduce more moderators? Clearly the problem is based on the fact unproven IAMA's and other crap (e.g. should I do an IAMA for..) aren't being filtered out enough. If the OP mentioned they need moderators that cover a variety of timezones , it's probably one of their main incentives. I originally thought that adding 20 moderators would be too much, but thinking about it in terms of time zones has made sense of it for me. e.g. If each moderator was to moderate this reddit for 2hrs each day, it would take 12 moderators to cover a 24/7 span, or 24 moderators for 1hr each and so on.

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mdax8414•

I think you've been downvoted for your first sentence. The common response has been, "Didn't you just read that guy's post?"

I kept reading, however, and I agree with your interpretation. However I also agree with points from ArcadeGuy. It's a dicey game to be giving out personal information of any sort. But at the same time, we need to have the manpower to sort out the bullshit posts (the hundreds of requests that belong in the request subreddit).

A verification panel - set aside from regular mods - would be ideal. As I'm writing this, I see hoosierhawk gets into this in the next original reply.

(Edit: Here's an upvote :] )

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FmMan3•

whipes tear from eye ... That was... beautiful.

No really, I've not read a lengthy post like that in a while and afterwards felt like I hadn't wasted my time. I'm sure you've spoken for a number of us.

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[deleted]•

not all celebrities are on twitter. at least, not the ones i'd want to do an AMA...

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redpayaso•

Well said!

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hoosierhawk•

I think this defeats the purpose of anonymous verification. The verification team should be a small set (6-8 people) who can commit to logging in once every day or two and work through the verification requests. Are you really getting more than 10-20 verification requests per day? One person could work through those in an hour, let alone 8.

Having 20-30 people just increases the likelihood of the inevitable violation of trust. I don't understand why you would need 20+ people to handle this workload. It sounds like there are too many inactive mods that need to be removed.

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Dead_Rooster•

I think the issue is getting the posts verified as soon as possible. There's almost no point in verifying an IAmA after 12 hours since it'll be dead by then. Especially since people are less likely to ask questions if it's not verified.

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[deleted]•

That seems like an excellent solution, though it would still require having someone online to verify it when they posted it.

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[deleted]•

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tmhrtly•

But if a moderator knows in advance, they can hop onto reddit for like 30 seconds, hit 'approve' and go. Its a different story to having to wait on all the time until something appears.

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ranon20•

This is a great solution.

The moderator can even comment in the IAMA as to exactly what information has been verified, e.g. photo verified, address verified, degree certificate verified, etc.

As strikan mentions, the moderator would require being online when the IAMA is being posted. This can be avoided by the mods maintaining a list of approved posts so that any other mod can verify the post on reddit even if the approving mod is offline.

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JustCanadian•

I quite agree with this idea.

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seeasea•

or mods separated by zones, with a commitment to mod at specific intervals.

ie. 2 in US, 2 in Europe, 2 in Asia, and they mod at various times within an 8 hour time frame...(and preferably within 2-4 hours)

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32bitesOPMOD•

That is the reason why we are asking for time zone so we can try scheduling every hour be covered.

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disso•

I think having all IAMA's pre-approved and scheduled could be a great idea. It would set a minimal commitment level for the poster. Perhaps there could be an upcoming schedule so people could try to be available for any IAMA's that they are very interested in.

The possible positive effects of this could be a constant, yet regulated flow of pre-verified IAMA's. The downsides would be keeping up with the organization required, coordinating schedules with people possibly being world-wide, and the loss of impulsive yet interesting IAMA posts.

I also feel that request should be handled differently, but that any other situation could result in one being missed by a possible candidate(such as having r/IAMArequests linked in the sidebar).

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iankap99•

I see this as leading to a big problem in the future.

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IPoopedMyPants•

If a jackhammer isn't fixing the problem, use a shotgun.

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QhorinHalfhand•

And if that doesn't work, use more gun.

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[deleted]•

I believe it is less a question of how much work it entails as much as a question of having people online to do it in a timely manner.

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mochibunny•

Wow, congrats. You guys are useless.

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[deleted]•

Yeah, lets cut their salaries!

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mochibunny•

This might be too radical for you, but.............let's remove inactive people from being a mod!!! I can't believe I just said that.

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32bitesOP•

And we will be removing the inactive mods. We are going to figure out who to add first.

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[deleted]•

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32bitesOP•

haha, pay. That's funny.

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[deleted]•

[deleted]

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[deleted]•

Nah, just a free Reddit Platinum™ account.

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[deleted]•

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squatly•

Solid, necessary criteria. Hopefully you will get good applications from prospective candidates, and hopefully this will address the concerns that many people seem to have with this subreddit.

I can imagine moderating this subreddit isn't easy, and hopefully a few extra hands will help you guys out.

Wish you guys, and those who apply the best of luck!

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I have applied and await your decision. Solid questions, but I hope I wasn't too lengthy. Fuck reading.

EDIT:

I mean...

You know...

I like reading and stuff.

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[deleted]•

You comment saying "Fuck reading" to a subreddit based off of reading? :P

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:P

I've been meaning to ask you - exactly when do you become a DrunkenMasterJedi?

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brownboy13•

When he learns to do "Flying monkey with lightsaber".

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[deleted]•

I am also DrunkenJediKnight, but I don't intend to change any time soon.

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desertjedi85•

When his master dies

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[deleted]•

[deleted]

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YoureUsingCoconuts•

I'd vote for you. You kick ass on r/washingtondc.

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Why thank you! I really enjoy the community feel you have all embraced and I will definitely continue to work on improving it even if I do receive this job.

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SidtheMagicLobster•

Seconded or thirded or something! flipflop would make a great mod here.

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Thank you Sid! I greatly appreciate it. How has everything over in RotD been? Is the scheduling still tough? You guys do way more work over there than most people realize. I'm glad I got to see it firsthand. Thank you guys again for inviting me to join.

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SidtheMagicLobster•

Thanks for asking, flip. 4 of our mods are part of the new r/politics team, so that's been sucking some time away from them. And there's been some frustration with last-minute cancellations, but we're doing fine. Right now I'm just playing the waiting game one a few nominees.

And how are things going in r/washingtondc? I'm sorry I haven't dropped in to say hi yet.

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Oh boy... r/politics, eh? Interesting move. Glad you're able to hold the fort down.

r/dc has been fantastic. Of course the Reddit admins didn't mention how huge our global Reddit meetup was in their blog post (300ish people), but it was amazing nonetheless. Finally getting the chance to meet so many of them was fun.

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littlebees•

HEy Floo you should check the DC mod mail :P

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[deleted]•

Can you provide proof as to your identity please?

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[deleted]•

[deleted]

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a2thah•

We need nudes. Only way to prove it's actually him.

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xthentinasaidx•

i agree.

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feureau•

We need to verify his birthmark that is in the shape of Whistler's mother.

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[deleted]•

Well, that was unexpected. Cheers Tom.

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CerealK•

Thank you for being a donor.

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32bitesOP•

I've thought this my whole life. If I am dead I have absolutely no use with my body, if it can help other people why not.

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puredoubt•

sorry, but they don't wait until you're dead to start taking shit. what good are dead organs, dude? in particular, they like to take your corneas.

my mom worked in an ER and was mortified when she saw my organ donor sticker. she schooled me. now i'm schooling you. cheers.

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em0samurai•

You realize that you blurred your account number at the top of your cable bill, but not the bottom one.

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32bitesOP•

Looks like I did, you can pay my bill if you really want.

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Atario•

Fuck me, the top mod of IAmA is less than half my age.

I'll just nip off to float away on an iceberg now...

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innuhnet•

Living in Tukwila, rough times. Did you not get your license until this year?

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32bitesOP•

No, I don't have one, don't really need one, I live about a mile away from downtown so pretty much everywhere I need to get to is a short walk or bus ride away.

The new ID is because I moved from where I was previously in Kirkland bussing over to Seattle for work and school. And I wanted an EID so I could go up to Canada easily at some point.

Tukwila is kind of different than Seattle people from Tukwila say they're from Renton right next to it. Both are nothing at all like Seattle.

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websterjduck2•

You do know you don't actually have to go to the meetings to get your driver's license back? Just sign the card yourself. No one ever checks.

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32bitesOP•

I never bothered to get one in the first place. I went through driver's ed had a learners permit know how to drive I just don't own a car and don't exactly plan on getting one in the immediate future.

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undstudent•

Can we come visit you?

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Alphabet85•

I like your tie in the State ID. Kind of jealous of it actually.

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32bitesOP•
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[deleted]•

[deleted]

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CryBabyRape•

You're a douche.

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[deleted]•

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[deleted]•

[deleted]

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danta7•

You do look like the kind of person that would destroy an entire subreddit because you got tired of it.

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adelz7•

You look smart. Quite smart.

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feureau•

Mmm... buisness license..

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feureau•

Wait, enhanced identification card?

Does the water boarding comes before or after the card been issued?

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32bitesOP•

Never? I can go to Canada and Mexico (i think) without a passport.

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[deleted]•

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Shelikescloth•

"living in Washington"

I'm so sorry...

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januszeal•

I miss Washington. :(

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32bitesOP•

I rather like Seattle, what is so bad about it?

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Shelikescloth•

nothing, I'm just giving you a hard time. As a Californian I'm used to 364 days of sun a year, so Seattle seems like the tundra to me.

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sumdog•

I've been thinking about moving there. My friend Zeek lives there...and I love how you have an ID card but no drivers license. Do you live off public transit?

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notfromthehood•

The constant rain makes me feel like moss is growing on me, not just my roof.

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[deleted]•

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A-punk•

Hey, I moderate a great community and think I would be an excellent mod for IAMA!

52 subscribers, every one of them banned forever

When can I pick up my first paycheck?

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32bitesOP•

I don't know, I'm not banned from there yet.

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A-punk•

I was just letting you enjoy your time in a subreddit with an active mod/someone who has no life...

You have very much been banned.

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catmoon•

This is why I don't give a shit if the posts are verified.

Let me be the first to say you guys are doing a great job voluntarily sifting through all the garbage that washes ashore. Moderating subreddits is a hard and thankless job.

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omgpliable•

Honestly, you should probably copy the Something Awful method of picking moderators: observe users, be sure they aren't douchebags, then invite them to be mods.

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Flanery•

I'm glad to see an effort to improve this subreddit! It's definitely one of my favorites!

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[deleted]•

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[deleted]•

I do think I have the majority of the qualifications though: I'm committed to Reddit, I'm fine with debating policy and I have no huge views that I get all defensive over.

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Machismo01•

Hurrah! Congrats to the IAMA mods for being so honest and attempting to correct the problem.

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IPoopedMyPants•

Hear, hear!

They are a good and noble race, though there is an unceasing pile of thankless work that needs to be done.

I greatly appreciate the large number of applicants, too. It seems that the community is at least willing to attempt to put their time into it.

I just hope they put more emphasis on new blood than they do in their trusted cronyism. That seems to be where the trouble started in the first place.

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FmMan3•

I suspect this is a fake. I'm reporting it.

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johnny0•

If you bring on moar mods, are you gonna ditch some of the old mods? For example, the ones not doing anything in the subreddit? You guys need replacements, not mere additions.

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32bitesOPMOD•

Yes we will be removing some of the much less active moderators.

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L4G•

Don't let this become /b/. Please. Please don't fucking do it.

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32bitesOP•

I do not, in any way, plan on that happening.

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L4G•

Good. This is my sanctuary. I like it here. T_T

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PanicOffice•

ummm... I would officially like to be removed from any consideration to be a moderator. I'm in no way qualified, nor do I have any sense of fairness. I have apparently been redditing wrong for 10 months. (I thought down votes on comments were for things I didn't agree with...seriously...i'm an idiot)

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beernerd•

Don't feel bad. Some people take years to figure out how to properly use reddit.

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latarian•

Thanks for your hard work guys. It's always disheartening when people get downvoted for asking for proof on threads. We appreciate your efforts.

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shadus•

Nice solid criteria, if I had more time I'd be inclined to volunteer, I'm a dick, but I'm a very fair and trustworthy dick.

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desertjedi85•

don't trust dicks you don't know where they've been

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shadus•

I know exactly where I've been!

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