Canada wide COVID Stats- Is this a pandemic?
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 4:17 PM UTC
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The side affects like lung scaring and kidney damage among others is what has me convinced to avoid it. You feel free to build herd immunity with the anti maskers OP, I'll take all precautions to avoid it thanks.
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I like this answer and totally respect your own efforts to keep germs away!
When I see data like this, I am still careful, but not fearful of getting sick.
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If everyone wore a mask our shoutdown could have been way less severe, look at Japan, they barely shut anything down because everyone already wears a mask.
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Sweden didn't mask up or lock down. They are more densely populated country than us. Their stats are similar to Japan in terms of confirmed cases to death ratio.
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And there's Sweden that didn't do anything, and they are also fine.
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That's not true in the slightest: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/munk-debate-did-sweden-get-its-coronavirus-strategy-right
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You understand that other viruses can cause lung scarring and kidney damage too right?
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You understand there's a difference in rates between Covid and other viruses too right?
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Cool link me to the AHS data table showing non covid ILI infection rates.
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Well since you know what you're looking for why don't you link yourself?
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My wife gets the daily ILI report from AHS but it's not published for the public as far as I know.
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The WHO definition of a Pandemic (since the WHO is the organization that declared one):
What is a pandemic?
24 February 2010
A pandemic is the worldwide spread of a new disease.
An influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus emerges and spreads around the world, and most people do not have immunity.
They give an example of an influenza pandemic and suggests pandemics exist when a virus spreads around the world and most people don't have immunity.
I am curious what the data in Canada is suppose to show since SARS-CoV-2 is still causing cases across the country, and ravaging most of the planet causing COVID19 because most people don't have immunity?
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Please cite your source. The WHO is the one that declares pandemics. A link to a credible source that links to the WHO decision and not some number on an unsourced meme and not some random doctor with an opinion.
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dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh!
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it is what it is. we're doing better than the world!
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Am I the only one who thinks that the whole point of covid measures is to keep the hospitalization rates down? They don't have enough ventilators for everyone...
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Various health agencies nationwide have modeled potential case loads for their respective jurisdictions and there are a few potential outcomes.
Health Canada's latest published model in August shares one of those goals (pg. 14) here (warning PDF)
We are aiming for the ‘Slow Burn’ scenario keeping case rates low and within the health and public health system’s capacity to manage
It's understood that opening parts of our society from lock-down will create new infections. The goal is to minimize those potential infections from occurring by creating a set of health measures that the public can follow.
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This was the original reason for lockdown in March. It’s been 6 months and hospitals have never even been close to capacity. In fact, instead they are dealing with an increase in suicide attempts and substance abuse cases.
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And most things are open now. What would you like to see happen?
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There was never a lockdown, people keep confusing that. Back in March, there was no mandatory mask, no social distancing, etc. That was why we had a significant impact on ICU resources that required measures to be taken.
Canada had it good but countries like Italy, Spain, etc got slammed hard and resources were overwhelmed which prompted those countries to go into lockdown.
Now that we have measures in place to curb the spread, people are starting to think that there wasn't much of a threat to begin with as infection and mortality rate are low.
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In March we just didn't know which way this thing was going to go, and how much of an impact it could have had. So I think it was justified.
It's been 6 months now, the numbers are extremely mild compared to what we though this MIGHT have been. I think it's time to move on and live life now, while still being conscious of nasty germs.
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So, are we just gonna ignore whats the numbers are in other countries?
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If you are referring to the "Mortality Rate" it is in fact the number of deaths divided by thetotal population. Their chart is correct in that regard. What they don't show is the Case Fatality Ratio which is the number of deaths divide by the total confirmed cases. Canada has some data now (not related to the chart shown) for an estimate of the Infection Fatality Ratio (total deaths divided by the total estimated population that has been infected whether they tested positive or not).
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r/Calgary/comments/ipthdc/dont_look_so_bad/
Repetitive post
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I saw these stats and wanted to share to help with perspective around COVID. I think we've done a great job organizing around the potential threat of wide spread infection, but these numbers show that COVID does not pose as big of threat as we thought it did in March. Thoughts on the data?
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The two outcomes of contracting an illness are not "perfectly fine" and "death".
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Who knew old people were susceptible to respiratory diseases.
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The data is pretty accurate as of the end of August however it is interesting to note they don't list the Case Fatality Ratio, just the Mortality Rate. The link for the recent data is here: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html . The latest data is 2 weeks older but the statistics are pretty close to what they were when the person created the chart.
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Even more informative would be the case mortality rate according to age.
As of 5 days ago in a German study, it's 11% for ages 80 and up, ages 60-79 is 2% and ages 35-59 is very low near 0.
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What that snapshot doesn't show is the number of cases has been seeing a sharper increase in the daily new cases as of late.
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Until politics is removed from the discussion, no amount of data or facts is going to convince some people that we've gone a little to far down the rabbit hole on this. Hell, even having an opinion will get you quarantined now.
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Hell, even having an opinion will get you quarantined now.
I believe the term is; ostracized.
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This is what I'm trying to avoid, the discussion has become very political and polarizing when really it shouldn't. We are all in this together, and I'm sharing this as a way of helping and hopefully letting people know it's not too bad out there.
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We'll have a nice little reminder of it for a really long time called a crippled economy.
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Only focusing on deaths misses a lot of the impacts of Covid. Long term health effects and impacts aren't fully understood. Covid can result in damage to the lungs, heart and brain. Not dying from Covid doesn't mean there aren't long lasting health effects from catching it.
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Share the link, not the image. This isn’t Instagram.
Also, there IS a pandemic. Everything has changed to avoid spread so it’s no surprise to see shit isn’t hitting the fan. If you want an example of what happens when you ignore the pandemic, look south.
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