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LemurLord

What the fuck? Mod shutting down IAmA... yes, quality has gone down recently but why the FUCK is this allowed?

He seems to have removed all other moderators (or he was the only one) so power cannot slip from him.

Read yourself here:

Goodbye IAmA it was fun while it lasted

Fuck this.

UPDATE: ADMIN krispykrackers has stated:

If 32bites does not want this sub anymore, we will be more than happy to take it over and keep it up and running if he/she steps down.

It appears that 32bites has deleted this comment, however. I found it as a reply to the top post on the "goodbye" thread, but it is now deleted... I have taken a screenshot of krispykrackers response here!

Edit: And if you haven't been to IAmA... yes, most submissions suck. But we get great submissions often too, for example, just YESTERDAY: Al Jazeera English Senior Political Correspondent

Lots of great info there. And that's not all! Due to the large amount of subscribers (about half a million) we get DEV teams from Google, Mozilla, IE, Opera... and more. Can one man really shut down a subreddit of half a million by himself?

Edit #2: If I can direct your attention here: /r/RedditRequest another Redditor wants to take over for this child so the community can be saved. If you like reading interesting IAmA's like I do, lets work together and save this great subreddit.

Edit #3: Discussion here in r/AskReddit.

Posted Aug 25, 2011, 5:00 PM UTC · edited

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kyzu•

In other news, Steve Jobs decided to leave Apple today, but decided to shut down the entire company with him, because passing on the responsibilities of CEO would make too much sense

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el_muerte17•

"I think the company's gotten just too damn popular. I'm going to shut it down... and not liquidate our assets, but torch the whole damn place!"

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rakista•

But before that I am going to shoot all my faithful employees in the head execution style and piss all over them.

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contact•

Some Jobs just want to watch the world burn.

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poultrybot•

Yay, analogies! I'm gonna go burn money in front of a homeless guy. It's my money and I can do what I want with it. He can get his own money if he doesn't like it.

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poultrybot•

lol. OK then, I'm gonna blow my nose on a turkey dinner instead. Better?

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niggerfodder•

If i was homeless I would just wash it off.

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[deleted]•

Come to r/thizzberg for new AMA subreddit

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[deleted]•

Since when does illegal means you can't do something?

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jlks•

Thanks. I was hoping that someone would ask this.

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contact•

Did anyone else read this in Aziz Ansari's voice?

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hyptonic•

you heard it here first. apple is comparable to a subreddit.

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kyzu•

You're right, I was comparing a subreddit to Apple, had nothing to do with comparing nonsensical logic.

You should do an IAMA, something along the lines of "I have an IQ of 56 AMA"

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hyptonic•

according to reddit the lead mod/creator has complete control on what he wants to do with a subreddit, how is that comparable to a corporation?

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kyzu•

I'm comparing the logic you idiot, I'm not suggesting that r/IAMA is a multinational organization with shareholders and copyrights and what have you.

Yes, I know that Jobs leaving Apple and bringing it down sounds stupid and ridiculous, it's SUPPOSE TO

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James-VZ•

AMA Request: Someone not upset at IAmA getting shut down.

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Pravusmentis•

here!

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LemurLordOP•

OK, here's a question: Why do you feel it is in anyone's right to destroy a subreddit of 500k+ people alone?

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Kilane•

If you create it and own it then you can destroy it. You don't get to change the rules midstream just because you don't like the outcome this time.

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Cottonflop•

Hear, hear! Killing ones own children if they are complete fuckups should be fully legalised, too.

Worked fine in ancient Rome, and they did alright.

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kyzu•

Who gives a shit what that lemming created, the reason it is what it is is not because of him, but because of the community.

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James-VZ•

AMA Request: Parents who have killed their offspring because they didn't live up to expectations.

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kyzu•

Not if its taken a life of its own, that's just fucking stupid and hurts the community.

That's like Candy Lightner shutting down Mothers Against Drunk Driving because she has too much on her plate

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RockyCoon•

Because you guys don't own it, the creator did? and wether you like it or not, he can shut it down without consequence.

Let's say this. I make a theme park. It's a successful theme park. Everyone loves it. But kids like to graffiti everywhere. If I wanna shutdown the park because of the graffiti, guess what, that's my choice. Not yours. Not the customers. Mine.

It doesn't matter if I have thousands of guys coming out , wanting to buy it from me, take it over, I want it down, because I want the theme park gone. That's still my choice.

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Pravusmentis•

it was his. that is how reddit works.

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[deleted]•

First off:

  1. "Right" is the wrong word to use. It's an important word, and it's not really applicable to silly internet forums, except in that we have a right to write whatever we want.

  2. Because it's his. He made it. He doesn't like where it has gone, and he wants to get rid of it.

  3. Someone else can make a new one. It's not a big deal.

  4. The admins stepping in is a weird precedent. Just because it has lots of subscribers doesn't mean it should exist. Look at the GOP.

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trahsemaj•

Everyone who joined the subreddit basically agreed to abide by the rule of the mods of the subreddit. The top mod of a subreddit controls everything about it, including its existence.

Should he turn over the power to someone else - of course!

Does he have to - well, by the rules of reddit, no he does not. Subreddit migration happens somewhat often here (think of r/trees, which didn't really exist a year ago, now one of the biggest subreddits). A new IAmA will take the place of the old one if everyone works together on it.

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[deleted]•

I don't agree with the decision, but as creator of the subreddit, he's well within his rights to do whatever he wants. It's not like all the subscribers have disappeared, and all the CSS is intact, not too hard to make another.

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CooperHaydenn•

because he made it?

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alczervik•

seconded

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zquid•

Thirded

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alczervik•

all in favor?

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[deleted]•

Also, here.

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Scorp63•

Right here. The place was just a pile of shit. The moderators, as many of them that were made such a fancy "verification system" and you'd still be lucky to see so much as one thread that had been verified each day because of how lazy they were. There was an interesting, truthful AMA maybe once a week. Other than that, trolls, trolls, and more trolls. Threads would get hundreds of upvotes from someone saying "Hi I work for NASA AMA", and he'd have one or two sentences in his description, no pictures, links, or anything, and he'd get to the top half the time.

Then you had the countless "Hi I'm 196 years old AMA" - "Well actually it's my grandmother and I'll be typing out her answers on here.

You can't ask "Why is someone allowed to do this" when it's the way Reddit is operated. That's how it is, people have the ability to do it, so that's that. Personally, I'd like to ask why the karma-system is cumulative so we have so many power-users and idiotic karma-whores, but you know what? That's how Reddit is, and that's that.

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mikaelhg•

Indeed, the scammers are the ones making the most noise about this, and they're mobilizing the retarded children who make the world such a hard place to live in.

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Hokuboku•

There was some fantastic IAmAs that made the subreddit worth it, ie Bruce Campbell, Anthony Weiner, Anthony Bourdain, the Opera team, etc.

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el_muerte17•

I rarely found the crap/legit ratio to be worse than about 5:1. Maybe they weren't all verified, but unless it's a famous person, teh verification was kinda pointless anyway... they still provided interesting reading, and had enough traffic that it was a virtual guarantee several readers would have similar experiences and point out bullshit.

Sure beat the hell out of 90% of reddit frontpage being imgur links.

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azjps•

You can't ask "Why is someone allowed to do this" when it's the way Reddit is operated.

.. but of course we can (and I'm not even subscribed to IAmA). It's an unprecedented move, and we can vociferously criticize what we perceive to be a terribly poor decision and question whether it should be allowed.

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James-VZ•

AMA Request: Someone who doesn't reply like they're writing an essay for the SATs.

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kindbudz•

Haha what the fuck? I guess we should add a character limit to reddit so we can only respond in witty one liners.

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dyt•

If someone makes a business, doesn't like where it went, and decides to shut it down, is it his decision or the customers decision?

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civilgorilla•

32bites! The quality of IAmA has gone down because the subreddit is wildly popular!

SHUT

DOWN

IAmA

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Pravusmentis•

It is his subreddit, he can do with it whatever he wants. If you people love hearing that type of post just create another similar subreddit

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LemurLordOP•

It has half a million subscribers, power like that brings in the big AMAs: celebrities, technical development teams, shit like that. A new subreddit with a few thousand people (at most)?

There will not be good AMAs there. At least from non-redditors.

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trahsemaj•

Wait and bit and then say that.

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SantiagoRamon•

So quit bitching and make a new one. You know it would be popular.

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trahsemaj•

Look at r/trees now - it was created a year ago when the former big stoner subreddit went down the same path. Communities can get big in a short time after something like this.

And you can't really do anything else, can you? Mods control the subreddit, and the admins will NEVER remove a mod.

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entalong•

Quite a bit more than a year ago actually

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[deleted]•

Nah man, they don't allow that on this site.

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derpage•

People are somehow incapable of realizing Reddit is not a democracy. It was never designed to be run as such.

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bigblackdude•

I think he is a little power crazy... just hand it over to someone else and take it off your front page.

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LemurLordOP•

Honestly. How hard is that to do? Takes maybe 30 minutes to train a mod, especially if they've been a mod of another subreddit... It would be quicker than answering everyone's questions, even.

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32bites-is-a-faggot•

I guess this picture is relevant

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el_muerte17•

It's funny because three quarters of what's wrong with that kid's face is hygiene and grooming.

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H8rade•

I didn't notice the first time I saw the pic, but they shopped the kid's glasses to be crooked. Probably more than that as well.

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BrianAllred•

What. The. Fuck.

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Desi87•

So, uh, what happens to the archived content? There are some facinating reads on r/IAMA. Do we lose them all if he hits the delete button?

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CndConnection•

Okay, big question.

If IAmA gets destroyed....can someone start up a new IAmA or will they not allow the same name twice?

If so I got a solution, since IAmA wont be on the list, just replace with IAMA and no one will notice!

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kyzu•

How about we just tell 32bites to shut the fuck up and give the modding responsibilities to someone else? He never did reddit a favor by creating the sub-reddit, reddit did HIM a favor by letting him

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LemurLordOP•

We have been telling him to do just that. Check the links on my original post.

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LemurLordOP•

I wish it could work that way. It's possible that all subscribers would be lost, and with that, the reason for most people to come and do great AMAs in the first place.

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hanumanCT•

The content. There is some really good back content there. That will all be lost if this whiny little chode gets his way.

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CndConnection•

Yes but no one subscribes to IAmA and goes "Oh ! its over now! okay ! never again then laaaddiii daaa"

If they see the next day theres a new section IAMA floating around they will most likely subscribe to that right away.

I mean, who would subscribe to something, find out its over, find out its being replaced with an identical version, then go "no way"

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gurkfak•

I was going to suggest someone create I++AMA, problem solved.

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sweetafton•

At least circlejerk are enjoying the debacle.

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happyeriko•

And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

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todaysspecial•

Someone should say "you don't own children" a few more times

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wardser•

demod the cunt, nationalize the reddit, put some admins in charge and hold a vote for moderators

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someone13•

Also, for anyone who's interested, I have /r/VerifiedIAmAs. It's a subreddit where all the self-posts will be verified IAmAs, and where all the links point to a verified IAmA elsewhere on Reddit.

Let me know what you think!

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HyperspaceHero•

That place was troll city. I won't miss it.

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Mo0man•

It's allowed because it's not difficult to set up your own Subreddit

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[deleted]•

Wow!! I couldn't care less!!

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voidsong•

First jailbait, now this? Who's next, the jews?

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Mustkunstn1k•

If he made the subreddit then he has every right to do whatever the fuck he wants with it. It's not a very nice thing to do, but I don't really get the "How the FUCK IS THIS ALLOWEDC?!?!?!?" part.

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travisestes•

keep it open.

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el_muerte17•

Body of a twenty year old, logic of an eight year old... averages out to an unpredictable emotional 14 year old struggling through the worst of puberty!

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trahsemaj•

Admins can't and won't remove mods, or mess with communities. Their hands are tied on this one.

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