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There is a possibility that she will stay true to her word but the police won't.
Dog theft aside, the person shot the dog walker multiple times. I hope the police don't turn a blind eye to that if they know who did it.
The fact she is willing to give the person 500k is absolutely disgusting. Dogs are dogs. They would be just as happy with a new owner. Don’t give the person who shot someone you know multiple times a fuck ton of money and cry about your dogs getting stolen only
I'm not up on this too in depth, did she say specifically that she would give the dognappers $500k to return them or just $500k to anyone that has info that leads to getting them back to her?
Either or I believe
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Also, the police do not act at anyone's behest. You can't send them to arrest a person for anything. That's like making them pull somebody over.
If the police decide to do a thing based on your situation, that's one thing, but they are not following your orders.
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Lady Gaga dogs were stolen (the thief shot her dog walker) and she offered a $500k reward.
What would it be on r/wallstreetbets when someone says If This then That and then it happens?
Could someone sue to compel someone to drink a glass of urine if they said they would if something happened and then later refused to?
Sure, you could sue someone for that. But you wouldn't win.
You can't legally compel someone to take part in something illegal (forcing someone to drink urine could be considered poisoning [probably] and hazing [definitely]).
Also, if a contract is too one-sided, it won't be upheld in court. Non-disclosure agreements often get thrown out for this reason: they're too much of a burden for one party, while for the other, it's just business as usual. Drinking poison would also be a unilateral burden.
Well, then can we force both sides to drink it then? No. Because of the 8th Amendment (Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted), the government can't force you to drink urine.
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You would have to prove that person wilfully stole your dog.
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I thought this was just a hypothetical, I didn't know a celebrity dog went missing.
You might have no questions to ask, but that doesn't meant the police don't :)
You can't stop a police investigation, especially for attempted murder
I must be missing something, how is murder coming up in the comments?
Someone stole Lady Gaga's dog and shot her dog walker
Everyone here both misreading the question and pretending you would have a written contract
In the US, not all contracts are required to be in writing in order to be enforceable. (I’m a lawyer in the US)
This. In Virginia a verbal contract is legally binding.
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How could you be certain that the person returning your dogs is the one that stole them?
The police will find out though. They'll arrest them for probable cause for grand theft, extortion, and attempted murder, and prosecute them if they don't have a good explanation for what happened in this case
I'm going to recommend r/legaladviceofftopic since none of these answers seem helpful.
I guess you’d have to prove the person(s) bringing your dogs back are also responsible for them being gone in the first place. I would think, even if you saw someone physically make off with your dog, you’d have to be able to prove they were the same person when they brought it back.
All speculation on my part. I’m not a cop or lawyer.
No, they have to prove you weren't the same person. When you sue someone for breach of contract, you must prove they violated the contract and you deserve payment. A jury decides the rest.
Yeah I wasn't even going to address the financial obligation aspect because I wouldn't think there would be any way whatsoever to prove you were even the one who promised money for safe return. Nothing signed, no witnesses etc.
My comment was more towards the part about having the person who returned the dog arrested. You'd have to prove they were the guilty party. And this is where my speculation came in - I would speculate that even if you saw the person take it and then bring it back, if you have no proof other than your own testimony, the person couldn't be held accountable.
You can say whatever you want, but since someone was shot in the process, the police are going to be asking a whole bunch of questions. You have no control over that.
Posting a reward is something that can be legally binding. If the terms of the reward are followed, then the person does have standing to sue and has a fair chance of winning.
But, it has to be an actual offer made directly by the person in question. Reading on reddit that Lady Gaga offered a reward, or reading an article in the newspaper, would not necessarily make it valid.
As for logic an reason goes, I can get you your dogs back but that only means I get you your dogs back not that I stole them, I could have found them and for that amount of money I could even tried very hard to find them, you could stay put to your word or call the police on me, the police most likely would just hold me for a few hours since there is no crime at all. If you only call the police and never pay me then nothing will happen, only you will show yourself to the world as someone that will not hold his promises and shows zero value to his own word, at the end that damage can never be undone.
just mean, she won't ask question but police already taken the case and they sure will.
Also, don't fall for police shit. Don't talk to them Guilty or NOT!!
How messed up is it that she offered $500,000 reward to return the dogs and not to capture the guys who shot her dog walker?
Lady Gaga is very unintelligent fun fact. Anyone who would give someone 500k after shooting someone multiple times is absolutely retarded. Dogs don’t give a shit who their owners are, they will be just fine but the guy that got shot won’t
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Nope. No obligation at all. I'm not sure for America laws but generally, that's an agreement without free consent (maybe different terminology is used in your colleges), so basically a theft will not fall under legal contractual protection regulation, and thus invalid.
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Uhhhh no buddy.
If someone commits a criminal act, theft in this case, the victim is not under contract to get their property back with no questions asked based on a proposed award. If anything, you're crossing civil law and criminal law. Criminally they can still be held responsible, and maybe, just maybe, depending on what state they're in, the criminal might have a civil case to get the money back.
Edit: OP's question is, "... can I still call the police?" Yes, OP can call the police.
I'm not sure what their comment said but this post is assuming theft. Would the same apply to someone who happened across the dog and returned it for the reward having committed no criminal act?
The short answer is I'm not sure, and I am nowhere near an expert on civil law. I'm thinking if there's truly no criminal act that the reward would more than likely have to be paid.
But one thing that I wish everyone would get, because I see it all the time on Reddit, is different states have different laws. And I'll be damned if the majority of people don't just use reddit as a platform to spew legal assumptions that mislead our reddit community. This isn't directed at you, obviously.
But for anyone reading this I would be wary of anyone who claims to have a legal answer unless they know exactly which jurisdiction is in question, and then if they're just guessing or have at least some sort of a legal background. And if anyone ever has a real need for legal advice (beyond wondering what if scenarios online) most attorneys give free consultations.
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You could have backed up your rebuttal with the information for the united states' law regarding the question, at least.
LOL! Go to any r/worldnews post that is not about America and there will be a post from an American about how it is there.
To be fair, America is part of the world. Non-American countries are not part of America.
Because the mods sold out and just pump and funnel clicks. It's a default sub, so it's trash by default.
Benefit of doubt? Over what, your majesty? You see, I had business law exams not a week ago and this answer will guarantee to fetch me two points. But sure, go ahead and enlighten the OP. Idrc
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It's not a degree. It's just a subject. Amongst many other. And I won't even flex something so boring 🤭 I don't know why you're getting so defensive but now I really wanna see your lawyering chops in a court lol
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What contract?
The dog is a stolen dog so the agreement doesn't stand. The contract is isn't valid so there is no breach