Why do people give up so easily in Comp now?
I've had so many games this week in masters where people will throw in the ggs after one round, even if it was close.
Posted Apr 10, 2021, 10:16 PM UTC
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FR though it’s getting ridiculous that some of these guys aren’t banned. I literally had a guy the other day who kept jumping off the map out of spawn and then left the game purposefully after the time limit to prevent the match from shutting down, all because the other tank wouldn’t play Rein. He literally said that he was going to do it in match chat, everyone in the match reported him, and I still haven’t gotten a ban notification.
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it's cuz you need more reports. 11 isn't enough and even if we assume the best case, some people might not even bother since they're unlikely to get the guy again. or maybe they put him on avoid so they do get him again and get a free win.
so lets say 11 report him, but in his next game the other guy picks rein so he has no longer has a reason to throw. so he won't get anymore reports and won't get banned. it's very easy to avoid being banned in this game.
some might suggest things like using replays to report, but people really can't be bothered to do something like that, especially if they're on the opposing team that got the free win. you need multiple of those types of reports after all and going through hoops to report someone really turns people away.
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11 isn't enough
Hey Jeff, what the fuck?
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While we’re at it, let’s lower the threshold for new accounts too. Lots of smurfs seem to feel safe being toxic.
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I'm surprised Blizzard can include software in the game that can detect cheating with aimbot but can't tell a person is throwing when they jump off the map from spawn repeatedly
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But you kinda have to assume that a person who throws because of nobody picking Rein is likely to find other reasons to throw for even if someone picked Rein. That's rarely just a 1 time thing. A more likely scenario is that they don't play the game that often. 11 reports definitely aren't enough for sure but if they really do play the game often they would likely get reported a lot more than just 11 times.
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It's always been that way. Heck, it's like that in sports as well. It's easier for humans to admit defeat and go next.
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It's much more frequent nowadays in high ranks than what it used to be tho, so it was not always like that in OW's history. Specially when the matchmaking creates a huge tank gap between both teams.
It's not uncomon, even in a 4200-4300+ lobby with t2 players, to just give up and go next when the tank gap is too big (Like 4400+ tank duo vs 2 low gm/master tanks)
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Then there should be a vote to forfeit/vote to draw option. n-1 where n is the number of players, no questions asked. Nobody likes being held hostage by bugged leaver penalties.
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Because the competitive integrity has been on a massive decline with the amount of people boosted with OP heroes, boosters, throwers, smurfs, etc. No one respects each other which stems from their lack of trust in the fairness of the match.
Blizz wanted that alt/smurf account revenue and also wanted casuals to feel impactful, not realizing that a competitive sport is zero sum.
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imo it has more to do with 2-2-2. Most of the tank players in gm nowadays were diamond/plat before roleQ.
This can easely be explained because to grind in OW, you only need to be better than people within your role (Like to be 4200 tank, you need to be better than all the <4200 tank players) and it's much easier to compete for the tank role (way less players, more off rolers with priority Q, and you can play a shit ton of game so you grind faster)
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Throwing was so much worse before 2-2-2
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Thats a cap for high ranks
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Even in GM most tanks are trash nowadays and barely understand the game (specially for MT) So no in diamond you do not get reliable tanks
Also they are boosted compared to DPS support players. Tank standarts are really low in GM compared to other roles and its obvious most of the low gm tanks barely understand the game compared to DPS/supports
So yeah they are boosted, but not within their role so they aint falling at any time
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It's just become acceptable to not be truly trying to win. This is my alt lol hf being hardstuck losers :) Ranked is kinda shit atm, I'm taking a break and hoping OWL starting up will rekindle my love for the game.
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Played console years ago around gold/plat and never faced too many issues with throwers. I started playing PC OW and in diamond/masters, players are mental booming within the first team fights if they lose.
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Because people are tires of fighting the same problems that plauged this game since launch
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Many people in OW don't believe in a comeback for some reason. So if something goes south in the first round, for many players it's basically over and the smartest thing that comes to their minds is to not try aka soft throw in order to lose the match faster. Probably not even deliberately but it just happens automatically
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It's because Ults exist to snowball and if you don't have a good combo after the first two lost fights it's basically over anyways.
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It just boils down to 1 thing. It's easier for people to accept loss than try to come up with sophisticated plans to reverse damage that has been done. 1 lost round is far from a lost match even if you got rolled harder than a sushi. But if the brain starts looking for the easiest solution it can find, then unfortunately accepting the loss is the worst but easiest solution.
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Most maps if you fail the first fight you already lost period. That's especially true for 2CP and KOTH.
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That's such a weak take. But I'm sure it's always true for you. And it's no surprise because you are basically choosing it's a lost match, rather than think further.
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now
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Over half the people in every match are on an alt they don't care about
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People give up in comp in ever game, I've been in literal hundreds of league games where I see GG 5 minutes into what will ultimately be a 35 minute game. Peoples mental are just easily shattered, if they are not winning they are pissed.
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full of cheaters and booster smurfs, a lot of those smurfs being cheaters as well once they start losing
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Nothing really matters so
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Honest answer is if you play the game too much you can get tired of how hopeless it can be.
I don’t play comp anymore cuz it’s not fun to play in a competitive atmosphere and have so many hopeless games.
As far as having a strong mental I’m not looking to use my “work even tho it’s bleak”. I work as a PM, I do that all day.
I just think a lot ppl need to chill from comp and come back later.
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Comp was fucking atrocious last night. Dps was the only role i could win on, and i suck at dps. The game favors dps heroes so fucking heavily right now that you can be serviceable at dps and itll win games, but if you have bad dps its an auto loss.
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Because there's no point to it, and the only place you go is into more salt, insults, and toxicity.
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Loser
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Damn maybe just don't be built like a complete bitch idk dude.
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Finally, someone gets it
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A simple solution to this would be to not play tank.
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I mean kinda ruins the game for everyone else ya know
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Weak ass mental lol
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What a plank
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Pathetic.
You realise doing shit like that is one of the main reasons comp fucking sucks. You're ruining the game for 11 other people every time you do that. Cunt
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This a new troll account made 3 days ago. Ignore. Sad life bro
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Tanks have by far the most fun heroes though?
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Depends on the person. If youre an fps player youll like dps more. If youre an mmo or moba player, youll prob like tanks more. The only dps i find fun as a tank main are genji, doom, pharah, and tracer.
Occasionally ill do 76, cree, or reaper if i want easy wins, but point click is not fun 95% of the time for me.
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As super would say so many people have a weak mental who play this game.
I think people in general have a weak mental
weak mental is why not everyone reaches pro level. you gotta have some strong mental to survive that hell. heck, there's even a level above that where even pros falter.
If everyone has a weak mental, isn't it the average mental?
Well when youre raised with the "everyone deserves a trophy mentality" this is the result. Whiny kids who think theyre the best while everyone else is "dog water"
Aren't you whining too?
If you're 12, I guess im whining, sure man.
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nail on the head
Lol! The participation crew got mad at us!
And they get so defensive when you call out weak mental
Kinda ironic from a guy who makes more than I will probably ever make playing this game to say this.
it's easier to have a strong mental when you get paid very well to play this game, have access to the best possible scrims in the game etc.
I totally understand why many high rated players who only play rank give up fast. They owe nothing to anyone. There is no content no reward and it's unlikely you will go pro (OWL is so stacked and dropping many insane players, just look at Soon), it's very hard to grow on twitch because there are no new viewvers (the only new popular streamer for the last 2 years is YZNSA) . So what is the point to grind and get emotionally involved in the game except you will burn out and be depressed ? For a game that brings you absolutely nothing else than just the pleasure of playing because you enjoy the gameplay
You don't need to be paid money to not throw games midway and be toxic to your teammates, That's not a high bar.
You dont have to be toxic to give up. I aint my fault if your IQ is so low
Most will just say nothing be silent and stop focusing as much until the game ends.
Who are you even referring too? Also, soon had visa issues, that's why he was let go.