Just found out the state I live in implimented a minimum amount for salaried employees. With that being said, as a manager with almost 30 years of foodservice experience, and 5 years with my current company, I will now be making the same $ as the supervisor who works directly under me with less than 2 years with this company, and does 30% less work than I do.
Posted Dec 9, 2022, 10:52 PM UTC
Sounds like you should be making more. Also sounds like your owners have been underpaying everyone and are now doing the bare minimum, just like they probably have been for a long time. I don't know what state you're in, but what is the minimum amount for a salaried manager?
Google Washington State minimum salary.
Yeah, Washington's a tough state for wages if you're a cheap motherfucker.
I guess there are plenty of philosophical debates about this already, but are you really upset because someone you work with is making more money? I understand that you feel like you should be getting paid more, but I'd imagine that since she is only getting the raise because it's mandated, it's not as if your boss decided to give her more and not you.
Thats exactly what it is. I'm just having a hard time dealing with the fact that the person working under me, with less qualifications, is now making the same wage as I do. What's my motivation to be the manager and be responsible when shit goes sideways? I should just ask for a demotion, as it would be less responsibilities and the same money.
Exactly.
You're not being adequately compensated for the work. Find a new job with people that don't require the state and government to make your life better.
You’re happy with 57k? That’s what we pay a lot of sous chefs at small restaurants in Texas. If you’re an exec the minimum salary you’ll see here is 75k and if you’re willing to work in Dallas you can usually get 100k plus some sort of bonus structure.
65, not 57.
That’s a tough break. It sounds like you already got your answer from the owners that they are not going to accommodate you so negotiating further will only cause you more anguish.
My advise is to quietly shop around at non affiliated spots to get the wage you deserve. You can either accept the offer you get or use it as leverage with your current employer to get better pay. Either way it is pretty inconvenient for you but sadly you are hardly in a unique position.
Just try not to let your emotions get the better of you. Low pay is better than no pay and being unprofessional because you feel slighted will come around to bite you in the ass.
I don't think my pay is low, I'm very happy with what I make, it is appropiate. I just don't get having everyone make the same amount, especially subordinates. I was told today I am the highest producing manager they have.
It’s all the same isn’t it? If you’re happy with your pay than don’t let your feelings get in the way of getting paid. Maybe be stoked that your coworker is able to get a leg up now despite you not making more than them.
People let their feelings get in the way of themselves in this business. Focus on your lane or find something else 🤷🏻♂️
Can you instead negotiate some extra benefits? Another week vacation? (I laughed when I typed this because my last vacation was unemployment during lockdown and then 5 years before that when we spread my fathers ashes but maybe your structure would support you getting a wee bit more time off.)
Looking into a possible bonus structure.
If you're happy then I guess I'm curious about the issue. None of us are paid what we're worth, and you've found yourself in a place where everyone is being paid well?
Equally paid, but not equal jobs. Why be the person who would be on the hook for problems if I could have a lesser position and make the same money?
Yeah, but you said you're happy with your pay. I'm completely for you going to the management/owners asking for a raise, but honestly I'd be thrilled if my co-workers made the same. At the end of the day, you still have the title if you want to move on, but for now you have a well paid workforce who are going to do far more for you than someone just trying to scrape by.
Delegate. This is your chance at making your job easier while keeping everyone paid well. Yall are on the same team, this is sounding close to what you hear from FOH when you bring up tip pooling. Let's just help each other out and make some paper together
Chef/proprietor here. Something similar is about to happen in my state. They’re going to raise the tipped employee minimum to $12 regardless of what FOH actually collects in tips. So I got ahead of things, switched to a house pool and now everyone makes $22-25 an hour. It’s gonna be a bloodbath for the places that get by on paying their FOH $3.50/hr, but the talent pool is pretty shallow here post Covid, so I feel like we’re gonna have a leg up when the axe falls.
As I always say an increase in pay gives people more responsibilities. Give them new tasks, take tasks off yourself. Work an appropriate amount to what you are paid.
I think this will be the plan. Just having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. I got a $4k bump, my subordinate is getting a $15k bump.
Or apply for new jobs, give them all work?
Cali's gonna bump the minimum wage to $22/hour, if they get the votes needed. SMH
But…that’s mostly a good thing. $22 isn’t enough in California but it is a step in the right direction
Yes, it is. However, I think that a lawsuit has been filed to stop it, by the local businesses.
Thanks for the info. Hopefully the suit isn’t upheld but if it is, a counter appeal for more than $22 is my hope
If you know how much the dude directly under you is making just sorta fuck with them, with the math: before the law went into effect dude under you made, lets all pretend that you work for a company that pays to the amount of trifling bullshit that you have to smile and nod through ^H responsibilities, 75% of your paycheck for the same hours; you could argue for a salary 134% above the minimum salary (yea I know should be 133.3repeating but never sell your self short by rounding down.)
So negotiate for a raise
Lol, do you understand salary and the minimum requirements involved? It's not negotiating for a raise, it's negotiating for a wage
This state issued mandate just added $75k per year to our salary budget.
Tried. No money to do so, I do the books and know what is coming in and out. Hard for a business to give a raise to me or the other 2 managers when the state just made them give our 4 supervisors a $15,000 per year raise. This added $75k to our payroll.
Reclassify them from exempt to non exempt. Keep them at forty hours. Follow all labor laws. If your company wants to make salaried employees slaves to the grind then they have to pay the price.
Time to start looking for a better job then sounds like.
This is how high level jobs are going to be for a while now, and contine to cause crazy inflation.
Thats just you accepting less than you're worth.