PleasePasta

I feel like under the "Analogue Act" it is definitely the case that all of these would fall into the "Methamphetamine" ban.

To be honest, even to me, I kind of see the point. However, I see that people say to check the legality of your Country/State before ordering chemicals, like 6-APB/4-FA/a-PVP...

 

So then I wonder: "But... isn't ordering any of the FMA series more dangerous, legality wise, than almost any research chemical"? I know Fentanyl could be worse, I mean that's got to be the priority of the DEA to intercept. However, I feel like Methamphetamine is prettyyyy high up there on that list, as well?

Hello!

 

I was wondering if Methamphetamine has information for low oral dosage toxicity or risk factors. I realize that Desoxyn is prescribed in the United States (from 5mg starting dose, up to ~50mg?).

I was just trying to locate some sources for the quotes I have heard many times, such as "the studies for Meth showing the toxicity, only really cover excessive, high dosages". I was able to get these links from r/stims so far:

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However, I wondered if there was more studies, or relevant information/

I apologize for writing this, without really taking or having the time to search more on my own first.

I'm still trying to learn about stimulants and the pharmacology, although I am still just as ignorant as I was from my last post.

 

However, I have heard multiple times that the studies on Methamphetamine are generally "for those using high dosages chronically", but that the information available on lower dosages is "less studied"?

Still, that is just word of mouth so to speak, and I was just trying to further understand the risks of low dosage Methamphetamine compared to say Amphetamine, Methylphenidate, or other stimulants... outside of the addiction/abuse potential

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According to the wiki for "Derealization", it seems like there is at least a term to describe the feeling that the world is fake or less real.

 

However, trying to find the opposite, is... impossible? I've only come across the idea of "Hyper-Reality", but that only refers to...technology seeming more real than reality (or just as real)? They use the word Simulation to describe it for example, whereas I refer to the perception of the world in general, not technology based.

I ask, because on certain chemicals or substances, at times there are points where there are experiences in w

Stims in general, but I've so far mainly noticed in amps:

 

The ability to see or notice all the smaller details in videos, movies, in nature outside, and particularly when motion is involved. It just feels so amazing to be able to compare your favorite music video sober to high, and they just make everything seem so "immersive" or captivating.

It's truly incredible

Sorry if this has been asked before, I would love to search more but I am not home at the moment.

 

I'm using low dosage of stimulants for functionality or therapeutic purposes, not trying to push the limits anymore. I'm just trying to determine what I could use that wouldn't really show up on a basic test. There is only something like:

• Amphetamines
• Barbituates
• Methadone
• Opiate
• Phencyclidine
• Benzodiazapines
• Cocaine Class
• THC Class
• Alcohol

I didn't really know if the "Amphetamines" class would identify things like Modafinil, Ritalin/Concerta, and so on.

I'm sure this have many responses from those who like 3-FPM, but for recreational usage... as well some who say: "I wish it did anything for me". I see you out there, I really do, you're great... but I'm trying to find people who felt they received benefit in some form that was therapeutic and not recreational for this post.

 

Personally, I've been trying to understand stimulants in terms of which gave therapeutic benefits as well as the least side effects, or felt overall the "best" for that purpose. So far, I feel that 3-FPM was one of the most beneficial stimulants, and wasn't recreational for me in general... as well as very "smooth". It was smoother and more therapeutic th

I apologize if "overall action" is vague or the wrong word to use. I was thinking that the ways in which the chemicals work and the effects they give are two different things, and by "overall action" I would be referring to the overall combination of the picture that looking at both provides. So, not a stimulant that is closest in pharmacology to 3-FPM, but also closest in terms of the effects that would be felt by the user as well. That was probably obvious, but I wanted to be clear.

 

I am trying to determine which prescription stimulant, in the United States, would have an effect profile most alike to a research chemical known as "3-FPM", or 3-Fluorophenmetrazine.

Logically,

I'm sorry if this should be inherently obvious, or if I have missed some link which would explain this. I'm trying to think about the different types of stimulants or classes, and how they affect the user which I know relates also to dose, ROA, tolerance, setting, mindset, and many factors. My idea was somewhat like:

 

Categories	Prescription	Street Drugs	Research Chemicals
Amphetamines	Adderall, Vyvanse, Dexedrine, Desoxyn	Crystal Meth, "Speed" Powder, MDMA	(2/3/4)-Flouro "Family", 4-MMC, DOC, etc...
Phenidates	Ritalin(Concerta), Focalin	N/A	Methyl/Ethyl-"Family", Flouro "Family", etc...
**Phenmetrazine

I understand this statement due to the relative simplicity of stimulants when compared to other drugs, such as psychedelics, which allow more introspection generally...depending upon which specific drugs are you comparing within the subcategories of psychedelics and stimulants

However, don't you all feel that while stimulants be used for simple repetitive productive tasks, they can be controlled in order to do deeper, serious studies academic pursuits? An individual can use stimulants to simply masturbate, but you can also use them to read a wealth of information or complete gigantic projects quickly. In the same way, it would be completely possible to only use psychdelics to see pretty co