I think I just got fired? I’m not sure. Feeling strange at work right now.
Background information: been working at a bar for about 7 months. There has been a lot of management changes. They’ve been difficult mostly because I had a good relationship with the first manager, and a shit one with the rest after she left. I’ve been working without a contract this whole time, despite asking many times if I could get one so we could agree on which hours and so forth.
I need stability. I need to know what shifts I have in advance and if I’m off that means I’m off and you can’t expect me to show up just because you call and “no one else can take the shift”, like, that’s not MY problem.
The list of problems is very long and I could keep going.
Bottom line is, I showed up to work today (my original shift was 9:30-15:30), now because one of my colleagues decided she could no longer take the shift from 15:30 to 18:00, the manager wanted me to work longer. She asked me friday, I told her I’d get back to her only to see that she changed it in the schedule yesterday without me having confirmed. I wrote back to her that I was not gonna work till 18:30 since I never agreed to that.
I got to work, she called and I answered the phone. Had to listen to a fucking shitstorm about how immature I am, how unprofessional I am, she accused me of not showing up to work 4 times, which I told her was definitely not true, don’t know where she got it from and I always show up on time too. Anyways she called me a lot of things, repeated the shitstorm more than 4 times (was a really long phone call). I couldn’t pay attention to her in the end, I think she was being unproffesional attacking me like that. She told me she’d like it if I didn’t work anymore to which I replied that I agreed (I’ve been working up the courage to quit for over a month now). However she pressured me to say I’d stay till 17:00, then started talking about how this shouldn’t happen again and then back to how she doesn’t like me and bla bla bla...
I need to get this off my chest. I’m standing at work right now and I think I’m feeling bad but I don’t know ‘cause I might be masking for the customers. I feel fine I think, but I also have this weird feeling in my chest. I feel really alone right now. This turned into kind of a rant, sorry.
Posted Jan 27, 2019, 10:31 AM UTC
Fuck her. If you can afford to quit do it otherwise save a lil and look for something else then walkout if you get a new job without needing this reference.
I can afford to quit luckily! Don’t know if I actually got fired though. I also start some classes again friday so the timing is good. I don’t know if I should contact my union though? They’ve been treating me like a garbage disposal and I’ve basically had no rights because of the contract situation.
The things she was calling me were just so unreasonable. She was claiming I was unproffesional while slinging out personal attacks left and right. I kinda feel like just going home and not actually staying till 17:00. It would be childish yes, but she already called me that at least 3 times for not wanting to prolong my shift only 2 days before, and I don’t really have anything to lose..
I also believe in professional courtesy, "two-weeks notice," and all that jazz, but two things - first, this lady is insane, and anybody who treats people with such disrespect isn't deserving of "professional courtesy" anyway. Show up for your shift long enough to throw an apron or something in her face and walk, lol. Second, you're in the service industry and nobody cares if you quit at the drop of a hat - it's almost the expectation, honestly. I spent weeks agonizing over how to quit a deli job I had six years ago, and realized that ultimately it just... didn't matter, lol. I threw an apron in my insane manager's face and told her "Good luck."
I spoke with some acquaintance/coworkers a few days afterward and they had hired someone for my shift within a day. You're insane manager will find someone new to torture, so don't worry too much.
This is comforting to read. I am also pretty sure she’s the crazy one but I generally have a lot of self doubt, so sometimes it’s hard figuring out who’s in the right/wrong.
I definitely like this advice though. I won’t see her though since it’s a one man shift. The chef said something about her coming in when I leave though so maybe I’ll have the chance. If she comes in I kinda want to say something along the lines of “you talk about the importance of being professional, but not even my mother has talked to me the way you have. I’m out.”. But I don’t know, maybe it’s best not to say anything and just walk out without too many words.
"There isn't any amount of money that would justify tolerating your insults and grossly unprofessional behavior. Best of luck moving forward, I will be working elsewhere." You could also just say "Thank you for the opportunity, but I quit" and hang up.
Nothing you say is going to make her "learn a lesson" - people like this convince themselves that the whole world is always against them, anyway.
Once you quit, it will be amazing to you how quickly she will go from a tremendous "authority figure" and source of stress to just another, sad, ranting, angry person desperate for control.
She is crazy. 100%.
u/CakeDice, I actually am in a very similar situation. I work at a small business and the owners are constantly changing the schedule around. I'm one of the only people there with an agreed-upon, set schedule, but they'll sometimes change my shifts around last minute and not tell me.
They are 100% in the wrong. I am lucky - I used my autism and hyperfocusing powers to become THE PAPERWORK GIRL, and now no one else knows how to do my job as well as me (whenever I am gone on vacation and get back it's like the store catches on fire the moment I leave). So I'm not replaceable (yet).
I just come in for my pre-agreed-upon hours. If they actually communicate the schedule change I'll try to be flexible, but otherwise, you scheduled me on my day off a day before without telling me? Welp, I'll have a nice day off.
Point is, do not cave, do not doubt yourself. Eventually her boss is going to see how she treats her employees, but before that, stand up for yourself! Tell her to her face how unprofessional she was! Even when you put this job on resumes for other places there's pretty much no chance they'll actually call for a reference lol.
In 2 weeks you're going to notice i haven't been here in 2 weeks.
that should count.
if you're in an at will employment state, tell her to get bent and walk out.
They're not in the US.
Definitely contact your union. She can't get away with speaking to you like that or not giving you a contract. The irony in her accusations, to say you're immature and unprofessional, is just next level...
Edit: she also can't be allowed to treat any other future employees like that.
I completely agree. Been asking about my contract weekly since november but it just never seems to happen. I think I have two more colleagues in this situation but they don't seem to mind anymore. They just gave up and accepted it because they need the job.
She was totally out of line. If you have a union, tell your shop steward. They definitely can and will file a grievance. If nothing else, she is violating union rules by disciplining you like that without a steward present. If not, find a lawyer and sue her.
Personal attacks are also unprofessional.
If you have a Union 100% contact them, this is why workers have unions, also your manager should go get fucked
Meh. I think you are over thinking it. Had a manager ask me to work mid and close instead of just mid shift. Offered to give me a break and pay for my food. I was waiting on the food and another manager came out screaming at me for putting in a staff food order, calling me names. I said fuck it and left. Manager who originally asked me to stay called and asked if there was anything she could do to get me to come back. Said sorry and no thanks Never went back and no regrets. Life is too short and you should value yourself enough that you won't accept being treated like that.
Another time had a manager come up to me and ask to work a double after the morning shift after already working doubles all week. I told him no and he said "If you don't stay and work I'll make sure you regret it.". I said "No I won't.". Left and never regretted it.
It doesn’t sound like you got fired based off of her saying “this shouldn’t happen again”. That means that in the future, going forward, she doesn’t expect you to “be so immature” again.
You definitely should, man. I worked at Kroger for 2 years in high school, and I didn’t want to go anywhere because I was used to it and could do it well. It provided stability. But once I turned 18 I started getting midnight shifts and 4am shifts on weekends while I was in my senior year of high school, and my manager would change my schedule on the board during my off days. He’d always be upset when I didn’t show, because the only way for me to know that my schedule had changed would be to go to work on my off-day and check the schedule. He wouldn’t even let me go to my grandpas funeral - said it probably wouldn’t work - so I went and asked the goddamn store manager. Quitting was the best thing that ever happened and I loved my next several jobs. I hope you get out of that fast and find something you love :)
This sounds similar to my situation, except I'm over 18 and it was once the new manager came along that I started getting the messed up shifts as well. I had an agreement with the previous manager where I wouldn't get the late night shifts either and it was all very structured and I worked the same days each week more or less. But yeah, not anymore.
Me too and same for you! :) I'm starting some classes soon before applying to uni so it's looking brighter.
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