Compilation of posts I've found to be useful for meth
#Health
Ongoing AMA with Harm Reduction Experts
StopSpeeding: a subreddit for those interested in sobering up from stimulant use.
Search engine for a local Narcotics Anonymous (NA/CAN/Worldwide)
Binge recovery tips (pre/post comedown)
How to fix your skin tone quickly
Professional advice on eye bags
6 Reason why YOU should drink milk! Click to find out more!
Drink milk (yes again). Comments are helpful too.
A (redditor's) personal guide on how to recognize & handle psychosis. Signs and instructions.
#Purification
The current best way is to use a chilled dry acetone wash. This does not remove Isopropylbenzylamine (more on that chemical below).
Meth is not soluble in acetone, but it is in water, so it is important to use dry acetone otherwise you will be losing some product.
Super easy acetone wash guide. Note: make sure your acetone is dry.
#Isopropylbenzylamine (n-iso or iso)
ISO MSDS - https://www.fishersci.com/shop/msdsproxy?productName=AC1597710002)
Meth MSDS - https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/13997m.pdf
Instructions on accidental ingestion of iso:
Stop use immediately. Higher doses will induce severe side effects. Remedies include lots of water and sleep. Throw the bag away please. There is no positive CNS effects, but it creates an intense craving for real meth. Always test before buying/ingesting. There are no refunds in an unregulated market.
Comprehensive Guide to ISO - It appears the thread did not meet forum standards. Read with a grain of salt. Backup here.
Note: There are no academic studies on isopropylbenzylamine. We only know of its prevalence through word of mouth, and matching symptoms of ingestion. However, large seizures have occurred since 2007. Practice harm reduction by making certain what you have is real methamphetamine.
DoJ/DEA study on fake meth seizures: https://static-464f.kxcdn.com/data/attachment-files/2017/09/251781_6.1-2.36.45.pdf
^(it is widely accepted that they are being used as methamphetamine mimics [that is, as “rip-off”/sham narcotics])
^(Interestingly, the DEA Western Laboratory [San Francisco, CA] reported that the N-isopropylbenzylamine hydrochloride crystals in one bulk submission crushed noticeably more easily than typical “Ice” methamphetamine crystals)
^(none [ISO and its less popular alkylbenzylamine brothers] are believed to have appreciable CNS stimulant effects at typical methamphetamine dosage levels. The pharmacological effects of high dosages on humans are unknown)
Note: Nearly identical to meth in its solubility, except its melting point is about 25C more. Good luck getting it out.
Do you suspect you've ingested ISO and now have chest pain? The most likely cause is tachycardia.
#More information on ISO and other cuts: identification
Note: if you do choose to freebase it to separate the two chemicals, do note that it is caustic and you can fuck your shit up. HeisenbergSpecial seems to know his shit.
Reported effects of ISO/identifying methods
Other possible cuts and the possibility of their dangers
MSM MSDS - https://examine.com/supplements/methylsulfonylmethane/ (water soluble, can be acetone washed)
Picture of MSM and meth side by side, courtesy of user trance-ed
I can't find too much on MSM other than that its a dietary supplement. It has a lower melting point than meth; smokers like to blow out the first wisps of smoke to get the cut out. That's up to you.
#IV/Intravenous/Needle
Take careful note of the importance placed on proper technique. Please educate yourself before proceeding with IV. This is something that is usually taught first hand because of its difficulty.
Harm Reduction Coalition: A Safety Manual for Injection Drug Users. - About page.
Hard Reduction Coalition: Properly finding a vein so you don't kill yourself.
NASEN: A needle exchange program and where to find them. - About page.
Case Studies/Horror Stories, not all about IV
#Smoking
Most people will always disagree on proper technique. YMMW.
Bluelight guide and discussion on technique/etc
Feel free to PM me/comment and suggest more smoke guides. I'm sure you have the best way haha
#Etcetera: Medical advice, quitting, the darker side
Try looking up sobriety tracking apps to keep yourself in check.
How would you know if you need to get medical help or you're just high as fuck?
Look, just so you know, the best we have for acute cardiac events for ourselves are benzodiazepines and chewing aspirin. Your best bet to preventing death/stroke/severe damage is prevention. And that entire thread is written by people who are not doctors, but those who are heavily experienced in the realm of meth use. Proceed with caution when using. Hospitals can involuntarily ask for urine samples to test for drug use if they suspect anything unusual. This is so they don't give you the wrong medication in case you actually overdosed.
It robs you of your very soul and you don't even notice.
Amphetamine - The Drug You Learn to Hate. Interesting read.
I have officially put meth before my loved ones
If you had the chance of never have used meth, would you take it?
When did the fun stop with methamphetamine?
I knew there was a problem the first time I tried to quit.
#Common unpleasant side effects of meth use
- Note: I previously mentioned benzodiazepines more than once in the remedies section. I have since removed them except for the most extreme cases.
Chest pain
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Anxiety, not meth (ISO is notorious for this), smoking irritation, nutritional deficiency, tachycardia (high resting heart rate), pre-existing conditions, sometimes an actual heart problem. | Eat real food, drink water, vitamins (especially magnesium and potassium), sleep, not ingesting ISO, chilling the fuck out, ER. Deep breathing. Meditation. |
Phlegm
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Dehydration, body's reaction to foreign chemicals, just meth. | Salt water gargle. Drink lots and lots and lots of water. Saline nasal spray if possible, it will dislodge the dried up gunk stuck in your nasal cavity. |
Blurry vision/headache
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Eye strain, low blood sugar, up too long | Stop watching porn and eat something, go to sleep. Eat before sleeping! |
You (think and probably do) smell like shit
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Dehydration, malnutrition, protein deficiency | Eat. Drink water. Shower. |
Too tweaked/spun/twacked/fucked in the nutz/delusional/psychosis
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Predisposition, binging, poor thought patterns, too much!!! | Anti-psychotic, or more commonly fast acting benzos (xanax). Tread carefully. If you're reading this, you may not even realize you are blammed in the ting tang dang fuck. Stop dosing and sleep. Example one and two. Don't be like that. |
Paranoia
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Binging, pre-existing conditions, or you just scared yourself, malnutrition | Deep breathing, meditation, stop feeding your paranoia, sleep. |
Depression/lack of emotion/anger
| Causes | Remedies |
|---|---|
| Too much meth, not enough sleep and nutrition | Take a chill, B. Aka stay off the stuff and get your ducks in a row. Eat your greens, take your vitamins, get some exercise/sunlight, LEAVE YOUR ROOM |
Catchall remedy for any problems you may encounter during meth use:
###PREVENTION! Eat nutritionally dense foods. A wide variety of fruits/vegetables and protein.
Sleep on time. Or just sleep.
Drink and drink and drink water. If you have not drank water for hours, drink water slowly and do not drink Gatorade. The sugar is taxing on the kidneys. You should be receiving electrolytes from your food. That said, Gatorade/Pedialyte is not going to kill you.
##Research the Mediterranean Diet. It's based around keeping good health of organs, especially heart, kidneys, and liver.
##Preventing hypertensive crisis:
drink water(!!!!) (hydration thins blood), eat healthy (duh), don't trip yourself out (it won't kill you but you sure as hell will feel like it is), sleep (sleep deprivation fucks everything up hormonally), don't do intense exercise (please), and please for the love of god do some yoga. Hypertensive crisis itself won't kill you, but it will cause damage to your heart/body in the long run. If you're reading this, you probably don't give a shit now, but who knows?
-> Reminder: You matter ya piece of shit. Take care of yourself. <3
^(by the way, if anyone knows how to make backups of forum threads, that'd be really helpful. Who knows when they'll go down)
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